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Merged Osama bin Laden dead,

I can just hear the lawyers telling his family (in the hypothetical situation that there were some who didn't already know). "I've got some good news and I've got some bad news..."
 
I was about to make some facetious remark along the lines of "He's still dead, then?" when I suddenly realised that a formal dropping of all charges against him is the strongest proof conspiracists are ever likely to get that Osama really is dead. Much better that a picture (Pah! Photoshop).
 
I was about to make some facetious remark along the lines of "He's still dead, then?" when I suddenly realised that a formal dropping of all charges against him is the strongest proof conspiracists are ever likely to get that Osama really is dead was never responsible for 9/11 in the first place which is why they never charged him for it.

I put my tinfoil hat on and fixed that for you.

Dave
 
Archbishop 'uncomfortable'

Hm, apparently the archbishop of Canterbury has weighed in on this Osama thing, saying the shooting of an unarmed Osama makes him 'extremely uncomfortable'. Well, boo bloody hoo. This is just typical CofE wishy washiness. No firm 'this was wrong' (or right, as the case may be), just an 'I feel queasy (let me go lie down for a while)'.

Of course there's the unknown issue of whether the seals there knew whether he was armed or not, or in reach of a self-destruct button, or whether any of his henchmen were booby trapped and waiting for the Bat Signal.

<rant /off>
 
The guy's a dick. What does he think should be done with a mass murderer - give him a cup of tea and some biscuits and explain he was wrong?

Every time he opens his mouth he pisses me off (shariah law in U.K for example).
 
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JJ is not thinking, she's reacting.

Can't you see she's desperately trying to spin this story any way she can as long as it makes the US look bad?

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http://mindhacks.com/2011/05/04/why-the-truth-will-out-but-doesnt-sink-in/

Bin Laden used a woman as a human shield and fired at the commando team sent to kill him – at least according to the first reports. These have just been corrected to say he was unarmed and standing alone, but the retractions follow a useful pattern – media friendly version first, accurate version later – because the updates make little impact on our beliefs.

In this particular case, I can’t speculate why the corrections came as they did. Maybe it was genuinely the ‘fog of war’ that led to mistaken early reports, but the fact that the media friendly version almost always appears first in accounts of war is likely, at least sometimes, to be a deliberate strategy.

Research shows that even when news reports have been retracted, and we are aware of the retraction, our beliefs are largely based on the initial erroneous version of the story. This is particularly true when we are motivated to approve of the initial account.

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So while the latest reports say Bin Laden was alone and unarmed, the majority of people are likely to believe he was firing from behind a human shield, even when they can remember the corrections.

And if this isn’t being used as a deliberate strategy to manage public opinion, I shall eat my kevlar hat.

I'd tend to agree.

Can't wait for Obama/Clinton to criticise Putin et al. for similar behaviour.
 
I had just read it and was about to start a thread. I'm not surprised at his remarks, remember that his office refused to condemn the 'Fatwa' on Rushdie instead preferring to urge the government at the time to 'expand' the ridiculous 'blasphemy laws'.


They make me sick.
 
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Being uncomfortable with political assassination is a perfectly legitimate ethical stance. On balance I agree with his shooting, but I can understand why people would oppose it.
 
Being uncomfortable with political assassination is a perfectly legitimate ethical stance. On balance I agree with his shooting, but I can understand why people would oppose it.

How was bin Laden's death a "political assassination"?
 
The guy's a dick. What does he think should be done with a mass murderer - give him a cup of tea and some biscuits and explain he was wrong?

Well under UK law the penalty of for mass murder is life in prison rather than summary execution. See Harold Shipman for example

Every time he opens his mouth he pisses me off (shariah law in U.K for example).

Err if what he said about shariah law pisses you off then you are rejecting some rather fundimental priciples of english and welsh civil law.
 
Bush is being totally lame and turned down Obama's invite to go to ground zero.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/05/bin.laden.main/index.html?hpt=T1
That is totally pathetic.

I disagree. His spokesman said:

A spokesman for Bush said the former president turned down an invitation to travel to the site of the 9/11 attacks.
"He appreciated the invite, but has chosen in his post-presidency to remain largely out of the spotlight," spokesman David Sherzer said in a statement.

That is, he isn't insulting Obama, he is simply politely refusing to come to an event which might well seem like an attempt to steal Obama's thunder, however unintentionally. What's more, he DID stay "out of the limelight" almost entirely after 2008, so this seems simply like consistent behavior.

I think Obama was correct to invite him, and Bush was correct to refuse politely and without a fuss.
 
How was bin Laden's death a "political assassination"?

Well if we reject classifying bin larden as a combatant then his death was an extrajudicial killing brought about by his political position within al-qaeda.
 

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