Bin Laden Dead Truthers Mourn

People who pay even the least bit of attention to marksmanship training understand that the whole notion of shooting guns out of people's hands is an accident of luck and circumstance, and it's not something you deliberately train to do. Don't mistake exceptions for the rule; they most certainly do not train for that, nor are they taught to do that. What few examples exist are the product of unusual circumstances plus a police officer's or soldier's decision to deviate from training to take a higher risk course of action to suit the circumstance. It is not something you plan deliberately to do.


Aiming for the gun goes against the most basic objective of this sort of operation: "neutralize the threat." It's a tiny and moving target, and missing once gives him time to kill your fellow soldiers. The notion is mind-bogglingly stupid... which makes it par for the course in twoofworld.
 
I can't believe this thread has turned into a debate. I agree with a post from page 1 or 2 that said this is a celebration thread, not a debate thread like every other thread on JREF.

The truthers have hijacked the Yahoo comments as well.
 
I must admit, I wish Osama had been caught. It would help to bury some of the truthers. I know they would claim it was a fake Osama or he was tortured into saying he was in charge of 911, but it could have helped.

In South Africa our news websites are full of truthers popping out of the woodwork! All the commenst are full of truthers spweing stuff I havent seen since 2005.

Shows how damaging the truther movement can be. Idiots all over the world are believeing their stories.
 
Aiming for the gun goes against the most basic objective of this sort of operation: "neutralize the threat." It's a tiny and moving target, and missing once gives him time to kill your fellow soldiers. The notion is mind-bogglingly stupid... which makes it par for the course in twoofworld.

Right, exactly. Center mass of a human is far bigger target than just about any gun, especially when it's pointed at you. Even when you're talking an assault rifle, which may not fly out of someone's hands if it's successfully hit by a bullet, it's not a large target relative to the broadness of a torso.
 
Watching CNN right now, and they are interviewing Wajid Hasan the High Commissioner of Pakistan to the U.K, and he is trying to claim that they knew in advance, that they "did know this was going to happen". The interviewer asks him a direct question
"When did your government know this was going to happen" and he gives him a non-direct answer.

I have a feeling that he is lying.

"When did they tell you they were going in?"

"We were in the know, we had been sharing intelligence"

Evading the question.....nice! :rolleyes:
 
Watching CNN right now, and they are interviewing Wajid Hasan the High Commissioner of Pakistan to the U.K, and he is trying to claim that they knew in advance, that they "did know this was going to happen". The interviewer asks him a direct question
"When did your government know this was going to happen" and he gives him a non-direct answer.

I have a feeling that he is lying.

"When did they tell you they were going in?"

"We were in the know, we had been sharing intelligence"

Evading the question.....nice! :rolleyes:

Yeah it seems likely to me they are lying. US forces going into their country, near the capital to whack Osama makes them look bad. Almost as bad as him living in a manion near their capital. And oh well. If I was Obama, I probably wouldn't have told them anything. Who knows what kind leaks there might be in their government.
 
Quite right. Vermin are there to be exterminated.

It's obvious OBL wasn't ever going to surrender willingly, he'd rather die for his cause as a martyr. Which is exactly how his supporters will now see him. Maybe he planned to kill himself or have guards kill him rather than be captured, so what other choice was there apart from killing him first? None.
 
FFS, they weren't playing Hide And Go Seek they were hunting him.

Is it even possible to ask a soldier to go into combat and ask him to make non lethal shots? It seems to me like that's got to violate some sort of code. If my commanding officer asked me to shoot at someone but not kill them I'd be pissed. May as well paint a bulls eye on my chest.
 
Yeah it seems likely to me they are lying. US forces going into their country, near the capital to whack Osama makes them look bad. Almost as bad as him living in a manion near their capital. And oh well. If I was Obama, I probably wouldn't have told them anything. Who knows what kind leaks there might be in their government.

Oh, I agree 100%. I don't fully trust the Pakistani government, and for good reason. This being one of them.
 
Why would they use that? It's too easy! Gotta paint that SOB with nano-thermite paint!!

:D

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As an asside, here is the GPS for what is being reported as the hideout.

34°11'15.85"N
73°14'33.18"E

The PMA is not even 1 mile from his hideout. It is at the corner of Awami Rd and Kakul Rd, just SE of the site.

Amazing.
 
Keeping him alive would have been a LOT of trouble.
There would be dozens of kidnappings with the sole purpose of exchanging them for bin laden. Killing him and getting rid of the body at sea means there won't be a shrine to him also.
 
Why would they use that? It's too easy! Gotta paint that SOB with nano-thermite paint!!

:D

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As an asside, here is the GPS for what is being reported as the hideout.

34°11'15.85"N
73°14'33.18"E

The PMA is not even 1 mile from his hideout. It is at the corner of Awami Rd and Kakul Rd, just SE of the site.

Amazing.
Actually the nano-thermite is just a match for the thermate. Don't forget the thermate!
 

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