Your conclusions do not follow from the premises.
You often make great, erroneous leaps of "logic".
You take one bad apple's performance, and try to imply that applies to a whole agency of 1000's of good and honest people.
That doesn't cut it on a truly Critical Thinking forum.
The SEC investigated the PUT orders. They documented the PUT orders. They found NOTHING wrong with the put orders.
You have openly slandered their investigation. You have openly slandered the investigators and any member of the SEC who 'let this happen.' They found NO wrongdoing. To state that they did, is in fact slander. It is an accusation that the SEC (all of it) is part of a coverup of the murder of 3000 citizens.
How do you get "one bad apple's performance?" You are making accusations against ANY and ALL members of the SEC who had anything to do with the investigation and report. As well as any members who haven't come forward to "fix" the problem.
Kevin Ryan is reliable. Your opinion of him is baseless, providing not a single example when you would need multiple.
a man who LIES about what his employer does? A man who is terminated for those lies? A man who is so incompetent he can't even file an appeal ON TIME?
Oh you wanted citations that he is a liar? Or that he was fired for lying? you didn't ask for them. Here you go. Waterboy
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/05/loose-screw-3-kevin-ryan-of.html
and
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/Kevin-R-Ryan22nov04.htm
and
http://sites.google.com/site/911guide/ryan
My favourite part of this legal decisions follow
ohn Daniel Tinder, Judge
United States District Court
ORDER OF DISMISSAL
For the reasons cited in the accompanying Entry, the court dismisses Count 1 of
First Amended Complaint. This count, which alleges a wrongful discharge pursuant to
Indiana’s public policy exception, is DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE.
Count 2, alleging a wrongful discharge pursuant to Indiana’s private employer
whistle blower statute, is also DISMISSED. This dismissal is WITHOUT PREJUDICE
for fifteen days, after which it will be WITH PREJUDICE if no motion to amend the First
Amended Complaint has been filed or leave to amend has been refused.
So he had 15 days to appeal the DISMISSAL W/OUT PREJUDICE. Goody. Did he do it? No he didn't. Because he is incompetent. (I'll show you that in a bit... after the better parts of the same legal document)
Do you know what DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE means? Google it.
and
In his November 11, 2004, letter, Mr. Ryan questioned the government’s
explanation for the collapses of the World Trade Center buildings following the terrorist
attacks. (Am. Compl. ¶ 21.) He also suggested that UL had tested and certified steel
That would be a LIE. Oopsie. Lying about what your boss and employer does is grounds for termination.
and
Mr. Ryan acknowledges that UL gave other grounds for his firing, including that he
had commented inappropriately on UL tests conducted for NIST and misrepresented his
opinions as UL’s, but he disputes these were the real reasons. (See Am. Compl. ¶¶ 30, 32.)
So that makes him a known LIAR...
continuing... notice ryans OWN WORDS
At the time of his discharge Mr. Ryan, a chemist, was a laboratory manager at
UL’s South Bend drinking water testing facility, formerly known as Environmental Health
Laboratories, Inc., and since renamed as UL’s Drinking Water Laboratory. (Am. Compl.
¶¶ 4, 5, 15.) Nothing in the Amended Complaint suggests that Mr. Ryan had any
connection to any public contract that UL may have had in connection with NIST or the
collapse of the World Trade Center buildings. Nor does Mr. Ryan provide any basis for
inferring that he possessed any particular knowledge about how UL executed its
contracts. Rather, he says he arrived at his concerns following a “period of study and
reflection” shortly after the terrorist attacks. (Id. ¶ 18.) Thus the Amended Complaint
strongly suggests that Mr. Ryan possessed no more knowledge about UL’s public
contracts than any like-minded citizen of similar background and training, and that in
writing to UL and NIST, he was attempting only to making them aware of his theories
and conclusions, not of particular problems with any UL conduct.
So he has NO proof of his LIE about what his employer did. He has LIED out of his ass. Good jobby job.
Really? No wonder you are so screwed up. You believe known liars, but slander good, hard working individuals. Go figure.
Here is a link to LASHL... on jref about it
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90210
and this deals with the second appeal
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2904777&postcount=135
The brave ones did not remain silent, and are speaking out.
Please show me a member of the SEC who says the Put orders were bogus and people made out like bandits while allowing US citizens to be murdered.
Please show me an FBI agent who worked on PENTBOM who states any of the information provided is inaccurate, incorrect or outright lies.
Please show me any member of the NTSB who says that flight 77 didnt' hit the pentagon. Or that they were lost from radar.
Please show me a single person who went over the debris who thinks they weren't jets, or who found detonators, det cord, unexploded explosives or metal with thermitic residue.
until then, all you have is a bunch of kooks who are talking out of their asses.
But most are not willing to die for it, and not get the chance to see the result. It would be a lot easier to find 19 hijackers for a "standard" hijacking. Some may have been covert agents thinking they were exposing a hijacking ring. They could have all been duped into participating, then knocked out with gas along with the crew and passengers. The Boeings were all equipped with remote control capability, taking them to their real targets with unconscious occupants.
You should know something. I live in the UAE. I have met two of the hijackers families (they came from the UAE). I have met plenty of local muslim's who know of people who are more than willing to die for the chance to fight for "Islam." Your arguments from incredulity and ignorance are showing.
Your newest "theory" is just as disorganized and impossible... but whatever floats your boat.
other than your bs highlighted. You really do need to do more research before you open your pie hole. The jets in question were NOT equipped with remote control capability. Provide a citation please. So I can open a can of whoop ass on you... Pretty please. (argument from ignorance....wow we have done this before haven't we? put orders, missing fbi tapes, missing 2.3 trillion... wowsers)
Not everyone. One person with authority could have planted some strategically placed bombs.
ROFLMAO. Now it is just one person with authority. where did this "person" get these "bombs?"
Where did he sign them out from?
How did he know where to plant them?
How did he get access to plant them unnoticed in one of the most secure buildings in the world?
Mission Impossible...
If you read the theory, there is no such cannon. The explosives and force of the impact made the debris go all over the lawn. The official story says the plane entered the Pentagon first. If that is so, then the debris would have shot out the hole in one major direction. You are right in saying it was "all over the lawn".
Oh... you mean the NEW theory... not the last piece of **** one... the last one you stated there was a cannon full of plane parts which exploded from inside the pentagon and threw the parts all over the lawn.
You really need to talk with other twoofs. Because they say you are bat **** crazy. Why is it that truthers can never agree on a unified theory of the events of 9/11 but still believe they are correct and everyone else is wrong?
