Kevin Barrett: "9/11 Truth will kill your career"

[Joey McGee]

As for gullible, we shall see in the long run who were the gullible.

Since 9/11 Truth is a belief system that has zero supporting evidence, this is like taunting an unbeliever that Jesus will come back to judge them. We know who the gullible ones are now, for we can see who has accepted as fact something that has been completely debunked.

 

[Triterope]

"Everyone in the media knows that breathing a word of truth about 9/11 will kill your career."

Kevin Barrett had a career?

 

[tsig]

Your posts are often evidence free. Sometime you post useful info, from your knowledge of planes. But this one was just baseless utterances and accusations. Then you think you are "winning" - like losing Charlie Sheen.

If you refuse to look at the evidence, that doesn't mean it is not there. Evidence is abundant. That's the reason over 1487 people who know buildings call for a new investigation. Even 100 architects and engineers are enough to call the official story into question, which is evidence free.

We are asked to believe that a few skinny guys with box cutters overcame a plane full of stronger American men? With all their monitors, NORAD didn't see what house wives saw on CNN? Buildings falling at near free-fall speed? Small hole at the Pentagon? Put options just on AA and UA? Government resistance to releasing information? The FBI said it does not have enough evidence to indict Osama Bin Laden for 9/11? Then you criticize critical thinkers for questioning the story?

You stated in a previous post that you had 9/11 all figured out on day 1. You brag about jumping to conclusions, as if that is a critical thinking virtue.

As for gullible, we shall see in the long run who were the gullible.

I think I see the root of your argument.

 

[Joey McGee]

Of course, the press has no power to truly indict. I meant that sarcastically. OBL has not been been indicted. Why not? We went to war to find him.

If it was a conspiracy, if they invented all sorts of other evidence to support their story, why didn't they just make up the evidence and indict him for it? You will never have an answer to this question that makes sense. The reason that he hasn't been indicted for it the same way he was for the 1998 attacks is technical legal stuff. Nothing more. This argument is on the desperate end of the spectrum.

Which one, the right handed Fatty Bin Laden with the gold ring, or the computer generated OBL?

Dude that old story was one of the first to be debunked! That's so funny you're still using that! Here, use this to cleanse yourself of that silly stuff. The reason he looks fat is because of the video conversion that was used oh man that's funny stuff there.

Oh yes. The "magic passport" found "by chance" in the rubble that the Twusters believe.

You have no respect for anything resembling the scientific method. This just happens sometimes, crashes aren't magic fireball explosions that burn everything inside of them *facepalm*

And yet you believe that people meditating in groups can reduce crime globally! Hello! Serious disconnect from reality here.

 

[Mr. Skinny]

I think I see the root of your argument.

I'm a skinny American guy, and I think I could slash the throats of a pilot and co-pilot who were strapped into their seats with a console of controls between them that limited their movement.

Boxcutters are razor sharp and you can get a couple inches of blade exposure when fully extended.

Seems reasonably "do-able".

 

[Joey McGee]

Yeah truthers want you to believe stuff that is ridiculously implausible (fake airplane parts at crash sites, faked cellphone calls, buildings rigged with explosives) but expect us to reject plausible stuff like, four men with knives can take over an airplane. They like to say "box-cutters" well, those things aren't great for stabbing but they are for slashing. And what tough guy is going to rush a terrorist holding one to someone's throat? Actually this is just another example of a sickening lack of respect for other human beings by the truthers.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

If you refuse to look at the evidence, that doesn't mean it is not there. Evidence is abundant. That's the reason over 1487 people who know buildings call for a new investigation. Even 100 architects and engineers are enough to call the official story into question, which is evidence free.

We are asked to believe that a few skinny guys with box cutters overcame a plane full of stronger American men? With all their monitors, NORAD didn't see what house wives saw on CNN? Buildings falling at near free-fall speed? Small hole at the Pentagon? Put options just on AA and UA? Government resistance to releasing information? The FBI said it does not have enough evidence to indict Osama Bin Laden for 9/11? Then you criticize critical thinkers for questioning the story?

Please just stop, please. You're embarassing yourself.

 

[JohnG]

That is one "silly twisted boy" to quote S Milligan somewhat out of context.

Surely you mean "to quote P Sellers somewhat out of context", buddy?

 

[ozeco41]

Surely you mean "to quote P Sellers somewhat out of context", buddy?

If you prefer. Sellers spoke the words, Milligan wrote the script.

 

[Animal]

Your posts are often evidence free. Sometime you post useful info, from your knowledge of planes. But this one was just baseless utterances and accusations. Then you think you are "winning" - like losing Charlie Sheen.

If you refuse to look at the evidence, that doesn't mean it is not there.

Too bad troofers never bother to look at the evidence.

Evidence is abundant.

Yes and it all says aircraft impact and uncontrolled fires caused the collapses.

That's the reason over 1487 people who know buildings call for a new investigation. Even 100 architects and engineers are enough to call the official story into question, which is evidence free.

No the reason 1487 people call for a new investigation is because the believe in cynical delusions and fantasies.

We are asked to believe that a few skinny guys with box cutters overcame a plane full of stronger American men?

Only troofers make such claims. The hijackers only had to overcome two men strapped in their seats.

With all their monitors, NORAD didn't see what house wives saw on CNN?

<sigh> as has been explained countless times, NORAD was NOT charged with protecting domestic airspace prior to 911. Troofer whining will not change that fact.

Buildings falling at near free-fall speed?

troofers have a problem with that gravity thingy.

Small hole at the Pentagon?

Larger than the size of the aircraft body.

Put options just on AA and UA?

Yeah, the earnings reports that had just come out had nothing to do with it.
Argument from ignorance noted.

Government resistance to releasing information?

Governments do that for everything.

The FBI said it does not have enough evidence to indict Osama Bin Laden for 9/11? Then you criticize critical thinkers for questioning the story?

No, troofers who believe in cynical delusions and fantasies are criticized.

You stated in a previous post that you had 9/11 all figured out on day 1. You brag about jumping to conclusions, as if that is a critical thinking virtue.
As for gullible, we shall see in the long run who were the gullible.

It is already obvious, the gullible buy troofer CDs, t shirts , convention tickets, etc. etc.

 

[JohnG]

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If you prefer. Sellers spoke the words, Milligan wrote the script.

Yes, I needle nardle noo knew that.

 

[triforcharity]

We are asked to believe that a few skinny guys with box cutters overcame a plane full of stronger American men?

Your racism is showing through. Did you forget that these guys were trained in hand-to-hand combat? Did you forget that?

 

[beachnut]

FBI said it does not have enough evidence to charge OBL with 9/11 ...

... Your posts are often evidence free. Sometime you post useful info, from your knowledge of planes. But this one was just baseless utterances and accusations. Then you think you are "winning" - like losing Charlie Sheen. ...

Here we are in a Kevin Barrett thread, and you can't support Kevin's idiotic claims with evidence to you compare me to Charlie Sheen, when it is you who believe in 911 truth lies like Charlie Sheen, and I think you are the big winner. Good work, you have picked the winning side, it is much happier to be winning like you are than to face the reality you are gullible, it could be devastating to realize you have no ability to see the lies of 911 truth. But be happy, you are a winner. You sure beat me with this fact filled statement.

It is ironic you picked Charlie, he says the same junk you do on 911.

...If you refuse to look at the evidence, that doesn't mean it is not there. Evidence is abundant. That's the reason over 1487 people who know buildings call for a new investigation. Even 100 architects and engineers are enough to call the official story into question, which is evidence free. ...

1487 nuts who signed up for Gage's fraud. They have zero evidence and you fail to see that. If you had evidence you would be using it instead of being upset I can see Kevin is nuts and seems he hates Jews, or did you miss that part of his insane claims?

...We are asked to believe that a few skinny guys with box cutters overcame a plane full of stronger American men? With all their monitors, NORAD didn't see what house wives saw on CNN? Buildings falling at near free-fall speed? Small hole at the Pentagon? Put options just on AA and UA? Government resistance to releasing information? The FBI said it does not have enough evidence to indict Osama Bin Laden for 9/11? Then you criticize critical thinkers for questioning the story? ...

Oops, Flying stuff! It would be so easy to cut the throats of two guys sitting, facing forward, strapped in tight to two seat in a confined space. That is what happen on 911!!! These skinny guys practiced cutting throats by killing goats. Have you practiced anything until it was second nature? Until you were the best at it? Now you are being bigoted saying Muslims can't kill Americans, only big Americans can beat up pilots, or WHAT? Are you a bigot? Yes you think Big American Men are better than other humans - sad - and you are wrong; did you get this nonsense from Charlie the big American Man Sheen?

NORAD? You have no clue what NORAD does, add that to your list of don't know stuff.

Buildings did not fall near free-fall. This is like saying you run a world class 100. And please state the free-fall speed you speak of. Please.

The hole at the Pentagon is exactly that a 757 at 488 knots would look like. If you could do physics you would not make a dumb statement like the hole is too small. Present some evidence instead of making up a lie you plagiarized from 911 truth.

Put options are traceable, not a smart thing to do if you did 911, and they were not related to 911. Oops, failure is 911.

UBL is wanted for worldwide terrorism. Darn, that covers 911. Oops, need to read what the FBI really said, but you failed to go to the FBI and used 911 truth lies to form your misleading statement.

...You stated in a previous post that you had 9/11 all figured out on day 1. You brag about jumping to conclusions, as if that is a critical thinking virtue. ...

I figured out 911 on 911, and verified the same conclusion every single day since. I was slow, it only takes minutes to figure out 911, which Passengers on Flight 93 did. You are slower, what will it be 10 years, 11 years?

...As for gullible, we shall see in the long run who were the gullible. ...

You are the winner.

 

[dropzone]

"Everyone in the media knows that breathing a word of truth about 9/11 will kill your career."

This is true. Customers who are building tall buildings that they expect to stay vertical need to know that you are not a blithering idiot with no knowledge of the principles of engineering. The rest of us should see that this leaves out the Truthers, to our advantage.

ETA: "You" not meaning YOU, Orphia.

 

[Justin39640]

This is true. Customers who are building tall buildings that they expect to stay vertical need to know that you are not a blithering idiot with no knowledge of the principles of engineering. The rest of us should see that this leaves out the Truthers, to our advantage.

ETA: "You" not meaning YOU, Orphia.

Truther Construction sales pitch:
"Don't worry sir, your new skyscraper will be completely impervious to fire."
"Wow, that's amazing! How did you do that?"
"Everyone knows fire can't melt steel, duh!"

 

[ozeco41]

Truther Construction sales pitch:
"Don't worry sir, your new skyscraper will be completely impervious to fire."
"Wow, that's amazing! How did you do that?"
"Everyone knows fire can't melt steel, duh!"

We get so accustomed to discussions in here - the forum on 9/11 matters - that we forget that none of these nutters would get to first base in a job interview with 99.9% of employers out there in the real world.

If they cannot process simple facts without resorting to lies what chance in that real world that they will "get away with it".

Of course if they are only "putting it on" in this forum then that makes them liars and trolls not "truthers".....

 

[TruthMakesPeace]

OCT Bible - taken on faith without question by True Believers

We get so accustomed to discussions in here

...with no evidence whatsoever. Every Truther I know has a job, or has a good pension from one. I enjoy my job.

Dr. David Griscom (PhD Brown, Physics) worked for over 30 years at the Naval Research Laboratory. NASA had enough faith in him, instead of thousands of scientists who applied, to entrust him as head a research team to examine and do experiments on Moon rocks which cost millions to bring 238857 miles by astronauts who literally risked their lives to get them.

Steven Jones, Niels Harrit, and General Stubblebine get nice retirement pensons.

Mark Basile, Jeff Farrer, Crocker Grabee, Jonathan Cole, Alexander Dewdney, Kevin Ryan, Jim Hoffman, David Chandler, etc. have a good jobs in research, teaching, or consulting.

Charlie Sheen lost his million dollar per week job (approx). But he is no longer an active Truther, and probably doesn't have to work for the rest of his life.

Jesse Ventura has been a millionaire, long before his Conspiracy Theory show.

Richard Gage even has a job promoting 9/11 Truth, although it is for a low salary. He is paid in good karma.

we forget that none of these nutters would get to first base in a job interview with 99.9% of employers out there in the real world.

That most of Truthers, if not more, are employed than Trusters. For example, you can see the architectural and engineering firms on AE911Truth.org's petition.

Of course if they are only "putting it on" in this forum then that makes them liars and trolls not "truthers".....

True Believers take on faith the myths of the OCT Religion's "bible', the 9/11 Commission Report, without questioning that "thou shalt believe that Lord Bush cast out thy demon OBL brought down the WTCs like Sampson brought down the house", and the "miracles" of near free fall through concrete, NORAD went blind (verse 1, chapter 1.2) , plane did not explode just prior to impact yet made a hole in the Pentagon like a camel going through the eye of a needle, so sayeth the prophet Zelikow, etc. Religion has its place, but not in science or critical thinking.

 

[Oystein]

... Every Truther I know has a job, or has a good pension from one.
...

So you are saying that Kevin Barrett's claim is WRONG (see title of this thread)? Trutherism does NOT kill your career?

 

[Walter Ego]

We get so accustomed to discussions in here - the forum on 9/11 matters - that we forget that none of these nutters would get to first base in a job interview with 99.9% of employers out there in the real world.

Here's an idiot truther who managed to get a job at a bowling alley and then got fired for promoting troof "in a fun way" to the customers.

From the video description:

On Monday, September 27th [2010], San Antonio Truther loses his job for mass awakening. "Local bowling alley promotes 9/11 was an inside job" is the description of the archived episode of a local AM Radio show that was responsible in having an employee of Oak Hills Lanes fired for sharing information and current events in a fun way with bowlers.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

True Believers take on faith the myths of the OCT Religion's "bible', the 9/11 Commission Report, without questioning that "thou shalt believe that Lord Bush cast out thy demon OBL brought down the WTCs like Sampson brought down the house", and the "miracles" of near free fall through concrete, NORAD went blind (verse 1, chapter 1.2) , plane did not explode just prior to impact yet made a hole in the Pentagon like a camel going through the eye of a needle, so sayeth the prophet Zelikow, etc. Religion has its place, but not in science or critical thinking.

This made me laugh. Not in the way you probably wished though.