Continuation Part 2 - Discussion of the Amanda Knox case

[Kaosium]

Of course doesn't the prosecution claim that the piece of glass is what caused the defensive cuts on Meredith's hands.

No, that was Raffaele's expert, Dr. Introna. Massei rejected his analysis, and made sense in doing so. I never did understand the strategy of having separate forensic experts for Raffaele and Amanda, and I wonder what the rationale here was for trying to say the cuts on the hands came from glass as opposed to the knife. Is there something obvious that's not occurring to me?

Dissimilar interpretations have also been advanced with regard to signs found on the iliac spines, the upper limbs (signs of falling or gripping), and to certain small wounds found on Meredith’s hands, which Professor Introna attributed – although in purely hypothetical terms – to a fall of the girl who, by placing or, in any case, by bringing her hands to the floor, would have suffered a few small wounds on them due to a piece of glass present on the floor of the room.


This piece of glass (which in the film of the November 2, 2007 inspection, as indicated by Professor Introna, appears at 19:26 and 42 seconds) is noticeable as being quite close to a print left by a bloodied shoe and deprived of any stain which would have led to a discovery of whether the origin of the small cuts on the hands was really this piece of glass. Above all, the reason given to explain the wounds on the hands as coming from the harmful action of this piece of glass appears unlikely, both in itself (as it is quite difficult to imagine that one would fall precisely onto that little piece of glass, injuring oneself again) and also considering that there were multiple wounds to the hands and only one little piece of glass in the room.

 

[Kevin_Lowe]

No, that was Raffaele's expert, Dr. Introna. Massei rejected his analysis, and made sense in doing so. I never did understand the strategy of having separate forensic experts for Raffaele and Amanda, and I wonder what the rationale here was for trying to say the cuts on the hands came from glass as opposed to the knife. Is there something obvious that's not occurring to me?

Without knowing the whole of the defence thesis on this point it's hard to say, but possibly they were trying to argue that Meredith was attacked from behind by a single assailant, as opposed to attacked from the front by three, and hence thought they needed some explanation for defensive wounds on her hands.

The obvious counter-argument is that if someone is holding you from behind and stabbing at your neck then you could perfectly well get a defensive wound trying to shield your neck with your hand.

It's a puzzle. Possibly there is no more to it than that Introna genuinely thought the wounds on her hands looked more like the injuries you get from falling on to a piece of glass than like defensive injuries?

 

[Mary_H]

Interesting development on the Daric Richie situation, as posted on the Guilter Talkin' blog:

FOA STATEMENT RE DARIC RICHIE

"It has come to our attention that a recent FOA protest action had the effect of driving Daric Richie and his mother out of their Tacoma residence and into hiding at an undisclosed location.

"We wish to emphasize that this action was not authorized by FOA. It was the unfortunate result of a logistical and communication error. Like many large organizations, FOA is beset by control weaknesses between functional silos. A mid-level FOA executive inadvertantly attached the wrong URL to an email authorizing the protest, and our director of field operations failed to confirm the proper location. An action that was intended to target Giuliano Mignini in Perugia, Italy, ended up taking place at a grocery store in Tacoma, Washington.

"The error was further compounded by a decision to work with a new subcontractor on this particular project. FOA commands vast financial resources, but cost pressures affect our organization just as they do any other. We sought to economize by working with a small firm whose core business is repossessing automobiles. The culture of this organization is not compatible with our objectives, and we will not be using their services again.

"FOA therefore wishes to apologize to Daric Richie and to Mrs. Richie. You may return to your home with the assurance that we will not bother you again. You may also swing by our office parking lot any time during normal business hours, to reclaim your car."

 

[PhantomWolf]

Very interesting work, but I don't understand this at all. Why would Rudy attempt to try to make it look like a sexual assault? I've not heard that one before. Sex-murders, as I recall, are punished more severely and allow expanded police powers in Italy.

Just sort of tossing it out, but the thought did occur that he might have figured that if the police thought it was a sex attack, they might not go looking for a burglar.

 

[GrouchoMarxist]

Leave Daric alone!
Waaaaaaahahahah

 

[Supernaut]

Hi El Buscador and others,
Have a look at this, Frank has emailed details of his visit to CBS News


Link:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_...tml?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

I wonder if Mignini will be suing CBS News next?
This sounds just like the Daily Mail report of what happened to Patrick Lumumba when he was arrested.
How come the Daily Mail was never sued?



I wonder if Frank Sfarzo is worried about getting sued also?



Interesting...

I think many of the pro-AK/RS posters (on his blog and elsewher) fail to grasp how serious the situation is, or could be, for Frank.

I get the impression that he is frightened and angry, and he currently has no patience with the eager "internet sleuths", as he calls them.

They aren't aren't on the ground and in the cross-hairs of the "pack", he is.

ETA - correction; Frank is already in deep trouble. I assumed the CBS report referred to an earlier attempt by the Perugian criminals to barge in to his house (late last year?). I didn't realise that they are intent on putting him away.

Stop the world somebody, I want to get off.

 

[lane99]

Ok, see ya. Thanks for stopping, bye.

While you're gone, you can leave the kitty (and it's hot water bottle) with me for safekeeping.

 

[Chris C]

No, that was Raffaele's expert, Dr. Introna. Massei rejected his analysis, and made sense in doing so. I never did understand the strategy of having separate forensic experts for Raffaele and Amanda, and I wonder what the rationale here was for trying to say the cuts on the hands came from glass as opposed to the knife. Is there something obvious that's not occurring to me?

Well actually if the court rejects the claim that the cuts came from the piece of glass, then the only other option left is the knife. Which can't be possible if 2 people are suppose to be holding her arms.

Does anyone know where the piece of glass was located in the room? I've read its been found nearly everywhere in the room, including under the body to by the door.

 

[Chris C]

Interesting development on the Daric Richie situation, as posted on the Guilter Talkin' blog:

FOA STATEMENT RE DARIC RICHIE

"It has come to our attention that a recent FOA protest action had the effect of driving Daric Richie and his mother out of their Tacoma residence and into hiding at an undisclosed location.

"We wish to emphasize that this action was not authorized by FOA. It was the unfortunate result of a logistical and communication error. Like many large organizations, FOA is beset by control weaknesses between functional silos. A mid-level FOA executive inadvertantly attached the wrong URL to an email authorizing the protest, and our director of field operations failed to confirm the proper location. An action that was intended to target Giuliano Mignini in Perugia, Italy, ended up taking place at a grocery store in Tacoma, Washington.

"The error was further compounded by a decision to work with a new subcontractor on this particular project. FOA commands vast financial resources, but cost pressures affect our organization just as they do any other. We sought to economize by working with a small firm whose core business is repossessing automobiles. The culture of this organization is not compatible with our objectives, and we will not be using their services again.

"FOA therefore wishes to apologize to Daric Richie and to Mrs. Richie. You may return to your home with the assurance that we will not bother you again. You may also swing by our office parking lot any time during normal business hours, to reclaim your car."

Yeah, I'm getting the feeling this guy is punking PMF.

 

[Draca]

Glass Shard in Meredith's Room

Actually the only piece of glass that I know of outside of Filomena's room was found in Meredith's. So that trail isn't exactly straight to the front door. Plus any trail from filomena's room to the front door would be meaningless since people were walking in and out of filomena's room before the body was discovered.

Photo of Glass Shard in Meredith's room:

 

[spartacus]

Daric Richie aka Daric Rawr aka Derick Goff is a 21 year old serial scam artist and pathological liar who faked the suicide of a "teen boyfriend" which got national attention before he was outed as a hoax.
links are at the updated post at the before you take that pill website
I think it is more along the line of a mental disorder than spoofing people.

 

[Bruce Fischer]

Yeah, I'm getting the feeling this guy is punking PMF.

Just getting the feeling?

 

[spartacus]

he is actually a fairly advanced form of sociopath. There are videos on youtube of him as Daric Rawr who made up a fake twitter account for TerrelWilliams whom he said was his boyfriend, and then he said he killed himself and garnered a bunch of attention. The weird thing is that pmf continues to chat with him and belief his lies. Evidence of a shared delusional system I think.

 

[Fuji]

he is actually a fairly advanced form of sociopath.

Is that a clinical diagnosis?

 

[spartacus]

You can take it as that I guess. Google Terrel Williams suicide perezhilton.com I wonder if he has gotten over his "loss" yet. At least he has pmf for support.

 

[HumanityBlues]

You can take it as that I guess. Google Terrel Williams suicide perezhilton.com I wonder if he has gotten over his "loss" yet. At least he has pmf for support.

I think any person who makes up a fake person, then makes up a fake death, and then uses that fake death to get fame, and compounds this with writing articles about himself, interviewing himself about a death that never happened, probably has sociopathic tendencies.

Hey that's just me. I'm no shrink though.

 

[spartacus]

It goes beyond that. He developed twitter, myspace and facebook accounts for his bf Terrel Wiliams, his mom Cheryl, and Daric Rawr (now reborn as Darric Richie), started interacting with people online in the LGBT community, and then Terrel got bullied for being gay and suicided. all of their online "friends" went into grief and perez hilton wrote about it. When someone tried to contact the local media, cheryl and daric came up with more and more lies about why they couldnt be located in real life. When he finally was outed, he deleted all his accounts and started over as Daric Richie the 16 year celebrity blogger who was getting harrassed for coming out in support of AK, after contacting me he "switched" and became "harrassed" by me. I was a little suspicious of someone who could read the Massei report in 20 minutes. The pmfers loved him because it was the first time anyone ever followed their advice -- read the Massei Report! It's great! Then drink the cool aid! -- and had the desired outcome, to change their minds. They actually area fairly comfortable little community. Complimenting each other with their 'son' Daric the pathological liar.

 

[Fuji]

You can take it as that I guess. Google Terrel Williams suicide perezhilton.com I wonder if he has gotten over his "loss" yet. At least he has pmf for support.

From what I can see online, it would seem that "sociopath" is no longer a diagnosis supported by the DSM. If I enter "sociopath" as a search team on Wikipedia (English), I am directed to a page about Antisocial Personality Disorder.

There are listed diagnosis criteria (cited according to the DSM IV-TR = 301.7):

A) There is a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring for as long as either childhood, or in the case of many who are influenced by environmental factors, around age 15, as indicated by three or more of the following:

1. failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest;
2. deceitfulness, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure;
3. impulsivity or failure to plan ahead;
4. irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults;
5. reckless disregard for safety of self or others;
6. consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations;
7. lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another;

B) The individual is at least 18 years of age.
C) There is evidence of conduct disorder with onset before age 15 years.
D) The occurrence of antisocial behavior is not exclusively during the course of schizophrenia or a manic episode.


If the criteria listed above accurately describe the accepted clinical interpretation for antisocial personality disorder, then I only see A2, and perhaps A1 or A3, although A3 is obviated in this case by B and A1 is dependent upon the nature of pertinent law, as grounds for making such a public accusation.

Do you have further evidence to support your claim?

 

[lane99]

... At least he has pmf for support.

And Fuji.

 

[Fuji]

And Fuji.

Well, if one "side" has a liar and the other (a) murderer(s), I'll stick with the purported liar, thanks.