Merged School Secretary Persecuted For Making Porn

As a member of the school board, what would you have done?

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William Smith said:
Thanks to all the voters. I would not have expected this many participants. I love data.
It's still early, but there seems to be a tendency evolving, a tendency which surprises me a little, hence I ask the following to all the voters and fence-sitters who would keep the secretary employed:

As a member of the school board - the position you hopefully remembered being in as you voted - how would you rationalize your decision to

- superiors
- pupils
- parents
- sponsors
- family
- friends
- business associates, etc.?

Please remember, you are on the school board. Actions have consequences.
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My opinion hasn't changed. There's no need for rationalization. Going on the assumption that there was no "No porn" clause, simply put, this woman has done nothing illegal. What she does on her off time is her concern and should not be anyone elses.
 
I don't understand what there is to rationalize, given I voted for not firing her. She's done nothing to warrant firing. End of story.
 
jiggeryqua said:
You do realize, don't you, that she'll now make more as a porn star than she ever would have as a school secretary? Even more than she might have had the school simply shut the hell up about it?
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No, she might make a few quid in the short term off the back of this, but this time next year touting herself as 'the sacked school secretary porn star' won't interest anyone. I'm not sure many porn stars make significantly more than secretaries anyway.
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Have to agree here.

Apart from a few "high profile" cases, most actors/actresses don't make a lot of money in the industry. (And since Canada is a small market, her case will likewise probably not be "high profile").

From what I understand, many "professionals" actually make much of their money on the strip club circuit. Their appearances in movies is used as "free advertising", so when they appear at some club they can announce "as appearing in..."

(Note: my knowledge may be outdated. Hadn't really paid much attention to the business side of things for many years.)
 
Which rules? I can't find any reference to which rule(s) she is supposed to have broken, other than being "inappropriate, unacceptable and incompatible not only with our mission but also with the values that we are trying to pass on to our young students"

Is this mission documented anywhere? The values? How are you supposed to know that your actions are incompatible with them?
 
WildCat said:
She knew the rules, she must accept the consequences.
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Joey McGee said:
Breaking the law is a bad example for students.
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Please cite the rule and/or law.

William Smith said:
Thanks to all the voters. I would not have expected this many participants. I love data.
It's still early, but there seems to be a tendency evolving, a tendency which surprises me a little, hence I ask the following to all the voters and fence-sitters who would keep the secretary employed:

As a member of the school board - the position you hopefully remembered being in as you voted - how would you rationalize your decision to

- superiors
- pupils
- parents
- sponsors
- family
- friends
- business associates, etc.?

Please remember, you are on the school board. Actions have consequences.
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I don't think I'd bother, considering I'd not run for a school board.
 
I voted to fire her.

The reason is that the school board had every every right to suspend while they investigated if her porn career was a breach of her employment contract with the school, which probably had a code of conduct clause inserted somewhere.

However, I think that they had no choice to fire her when the porn publisher is advertising her next movie with the publicity of her suspension on their facebook page, the same day as the school board meeting (7th April I believe), then it becomes the schools business IMHO.
 
She needed to be fired.

She was a secretary at a school. Chances are she interacted with the students occasionally for various administrative tasks.

Young teenagers are immature and inexperienced about things like this. By having her career now public and out amongst the students creates too much of a distraction and negatively affects the role the school is expected to play in the child's development.

Even if the adult staff could handle it, which I believe they could, it doesn't excuse the fact that the students can't. The 14 year old who outed her obviously couldn't, and I don't believe the rest of them could either.

It's too much of a distraction now that it's out. It has to be dealt with.
 
"Sarah, you got a D on your algebra test! Explain yourself young lady!"
"I'm sorry mom. I heard that a secretary at school was in a porno and I couldn't study. It was just too...distracting."
 
Yeah, because Ed forbid we teach children how to deal with the distractions that will always surround them, all their lives. Let's just shove the distractions out the door as if by so doing, they magically go away.

Who's got the cotton wool and the bubble wrap? Won't someone think of the children, and cocoon them now, so nothing ever touches them?
 
Taarkin said:
It involves a woman doing something besides cooking dinner for her husband.
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You're in the right area, certainly, but I think it's women expressing sexuality at all that most frightens them. I'm guessing the secretary got the dinner on the table as well as holding down two jobs, though she may have ordered takeout more often than is acceptable for a role model. But she can afford it, she has two jobs. Sorry, had two jobs.
 
Maus said:
She needed to be fired.

She was a secretary at a school. Chances are she interacted with the students occasionally for various administrative tasks.

Young teenagers are immature and inexperienced about things like this. By having her career now public and out amongst the students creates too much of a distraction and negatively affects the role the school is expected to play in the child's development.

Even if the adult staff could handle it, which I believe they could, it doesn't excuse the fact that the students can't. The 14 year old who outed her obviously couldn't, and I don't believe the rest of them could either.

It's too much of a distraction now that it's out. It has to be dealt with.
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While I see your point, and recognize you're not some bluenose, I respectfully disagree.

All of us are going to face "distractions." This was a time for the school to step in and act like adults, and to teach the kids how to deal with this appropriately. If find this was more of a knee-jerk reaction than anything else.
 
Kevin_Lowe said:
Please don't make things up and then pretend I said them. It's a dishonest debating tactic that adds nothing to constructive discussion.

Regular testing and unprotected sex with colleagues in the industry is sufficiently safe that I don't have a problem with people doing it, in just the same way that driving with a seat belt but no helmet is sufficiently safe that I don't have a problem with people doing it.

Yes, they'd be safer if they had a four point harness, crash helmet, roll cage and medical team following in an ambulance. However there's a degree of safety we just don't demand in everyday activities or in work.
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These analogies are terrible. Yeah, a dollar's worth of latex is an unreasonable safety measure.


I don't know how anyone would reasonably expect to be taken seriously working with teens after the entire school, again full of teenagers, learns they're doing porn in their off time. Do something like that, and you can't do your job effectively. I think that'd be the main problem.

Unfortunately that's not the school's reasoning.


Of course, the double standard is present. Tiger Woods cheats on his wife (off film), take away his sponsorships. He's a role model, can't do that. It's all arbitrary.
 
Has anyone even reviewed her work to see if it was at least good porn? Does she play a secretary in it? Perhaps she is a method actor?
 
I understand everyone's points for the most part, but as a whole I don't think folks should expect their kid's school boards to change societal norms.

The fact is that 14 year old kids are not mature enough to handle being exposed to this type of thing.

Maybe they should be mature enough, maybe the school board should take the stand that kids need to learn about this stuff and deal with it, maybe kids are exposed to worse stuff every day, I don't know.

I just can't get past the fact that this 14 year old kid couldn't handle it, and likely his peers can't either.

Dump her and move on. I think the school board has more important stuff to worry about than whether or not kids are trading links to porn involving Secretary Naughty Bits down at the front office.
 
Maus, your final paragraph doesn't seem to follow everything else you said. The rest of your post seems to be building up to saying the kid shouldn't be looking at porn, then it's left at the traffic lights and off into the non sequitur trading estate.
 
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