Merged April Gallop / Gallop lawsuit thrown out / Appeal denied

ozeco41 said:
Then there's "RESTRICTED" which we used to reckon meant "restricted to military personnel - the enemy can have copies but make sure you keep it away from the civilians"

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Jim Hacker: "How come the Times knows the wording of the Henderson report before I do."
Bernard Woolley: "There has been a leak, Minister."
Jim Hacker: "I know that! This is marked Confidential, I mean I only got a draft report last night."
Bernard Woolley: "At least it was not labeled Restricted."
Jim Hacker: "Why do you say that?"
Bernard Woolley: "Restricted means it was in the papers yesterday. Confidential means it won't be in the papers until today."
 
Triterope said:
No mention of the case at all on 9-11 Blogger ("Paying Attention to 9/11 Related News").
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911Blogger censors many topics having to do with the Pentagon. This is the only entry they have on the case, from Last week, riding in past the censors on a post about 89.5% of Germans doubting the OCT.
http://911blogger.com/news/2011-03-...ril-gallop-sues-bush-administration-april-5th

I made an entry last night on my (supposedly) personal blog on 911Blogger, similar to Oody's prompt and excellent post, and today it is gone. JREF rules for the latest news. I prefer free-but-sometimes-nasty over censored-but-nice information sources any day.

Oody said:
http://noliesradio.org/archives/32320 ...William Beale
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It sounds like Beale in the audio, but April's attorney spells his name William Veale.
Source: www.CenterFor911Justice.org

Here are photos of the Judge Walker, and the Walker-Bushes. Relatives? You judge.

 
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cicorp said:
Here are photos of the Judge Walker, and the Walker-Bushes. Relatives? You judge.
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What a classic example of the conspiracist approach to the evaluation of evidence. Three posts up there's a link to a Wikipedia article that names their common ancestor, but cicorp would rather look at photographs and guess.

Dave
 
Dave Rogers said:
Three posts up there's a link to a Wikipedia article that names their common ancestor
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You're right. JREF is the place to search first thing in the morning for the latest 411 on 9/11, not 911Blogger.

John Mercer Walker, Jr. (born December 26, 1940) is a judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit and a cousin of U.S. Presidents George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_M._Walker

It is a travesty of justice that he was even picked to be a judge.
It is a further travesty he did recuse himself from a case involving his cousin.
It is dishonest that Judge Walker would sit there, all the while knowing he is a cousin, hearing William Veale's objection to his being a potential relative, saying nothing about it, and just denying the objection.
 
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cicorp said:
You're right. JREF is the place for the latest info.

John Mercer Walker, Jr. (born December 26, 1940) is a judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit and a cousin of U.S. Presidents George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_M._Walker

It is a travesty of justice that he was even picked to be a judge.
It is a further travesty he did recuse himself from a case involving his cousin.
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The travesty is the misinterpretations of the facts.
The defendants were
Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Myers and John Does.

The Judge's cousin was George H.W. Bush. There is no case involving the 41st President.

As far as recusals go
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http://www.fjc.gov/public/pdf.nsf/lookup/recusal.pdf/$file/recusal.pdf

(a) Any justice, judge, or magistrate of the United States shall
disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his impartiality
might reasonably be questioned............

(b) He shall also disqualify himself in the following circumstances:
(1) Where he has a personal bias or prejudice concerning a
party, or personal knowledge of disputed evidentiary facts concerning
the proceeding;...............

(5) He or his spouse, or a person within the third degree of
relationship to either of them, or the spouse of such a person:..................
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*A third degree relationship is a first cousin. The judge is not a first cousin of anyone involved in the case.

While there may be some argument for a trail judge recusal in such a case, The Appellate Court is passing judgement on the decision and WRT the law, not the facts of the case.
 
cicorp said:
You're right. JREF is the place to search first thing in the morning for the latest 411 on 9/11, not 911Blogger.

John Mercer Walker, Jr. (born December 26, 1940) is a judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit and a cousin of U.S. Presidents George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_M._Walker

It is a travesty of justice that he was even picked to be a judge.
It is a further travesty he did recuse himself from a case involving his cousin.
It is dishonest that Judge Walker would sit there, all the while knowing he is a cousin, hearing William Veale's objection to his being a potential relative, saying nothing about it, and just denying the objection.
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Why is it a travesty? I'm sure he can look up put orders and understand them. I'm sure he can look up "missing 2.3 trillions" and understand them. I'm even sure he can google the "85 missing tapes" from the pentagon and find out that they don't say what some conspiracy theorists say...

sounds like a right fine judge to me.
 
CICORP gets PWNED.



Animal said:
The travesty is the misinterpretations of the facts.
The defendants were
Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Myers and John Does.The Judge's cousin was George H.W. Bush. There is no case involving the 41st President.As far as recusals go
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http://www.fjc.gov/public/pdf.nsf/lookup/recusal.pdf/$file/recusal.pdf

(a) Any justice, judge, or magistrate of the United States shall
disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his impartiality
might reasonably be questioned............

(b) He shall also disqualify himself in the following circumstances:
(1) Where he has a personal bias or prejudice concerning a
party, or personal knowledge of disputed evidentiary facts concerning
the proceeding;...............

(5) He or his spouse, or a person within the third degree of
relationship to either of them, or the spouse of such a person:..................
----------------------------------------------------

*A third degree relationship is a first cousin. The judge is not a first cousin of anyone involved in the case.

While there may be some argument for a trail judge recusal in such a case, The Appellate Court is passing judgement on the decision and WRT the law, not the facts of the case.
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The assignment of a Bush family member to the Gallop case is a dream come true for the Truthers.

Now, instead of just losing, they win a brand new Internet talking point: "9-11 Truth Lawsuit Thrown Out By Bush Family Member!" (And believe me, 911blogger will run that story.)

It affirms Trutherworld's two favorite narratives: the corrupt US government, and the Bush family as all-powerful overlords. Truthers should be ecstatic that the global elite went to such lengths to quash the lawsuit. It proves they've got something to cover up, amirite?

Never mind that the appeals court is just affirming a non-Bush-related judge's decision that the lawsuit was too stupid to live. Never mind that no family member of the judge is actually named in the suit. Never mind the technical reasons Judge Walker need not be recused, which Truthers wouldn't understand anyway.

9/11 Truthers can say with a straight face that were no fires in the WTC towers and no airplanes at the Pentagon. They'll have no trouble tarting this up.
 
Triterope said:
The assignment of a Bush family member to the Gallop case is a dream come true for the Truthers.

Now, instead of just losing, they win a brand new Internet talking point: "9-11 Truth Lawsuit Thrown Out By Bush Family Member!" (And believe me, 911blogger will run that story.)

It affirms Trutherworld's two favorite narratives: the corrupt US government, and the Bush family as all-powerful overlords. Truthers should be ecstatic that the global elite went to such lengths to quash the lawsuit. It proves they've got something to cover up, amirite?

Never mind that the appeals court is just affirming a non-Bush-related judge's decision that the lawsuit was too stupid to live. Never mind that no family member of the judge is actually named in the suit. Never mind the technical reasons Judge Walker need not be recused, which Truthers wouldn't understand anyway.

9/11 Truthers can say with a straight face that were no fires in the WTC towers and no airplanes at the Pentagon. They'll have no trouble tarting this up.
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And if he had recused himself, and the appeal was tossed regardless. they would claim that the entire 2nd Appellate Court was biased just for having him on it. Then once the SCOTUS denies an appeal, they will say that it was because of Bush family appointees. :rolleyes:
 
Triterope said:
"9-11 Truth Lawsuit Thrown Out By Bush Family Member!" (And believe me, 911blogger will run that story.)
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You're right. :) It was not visible while "under moderation" but is finally visible at:
http://911blogger.com/news/2011-04-...walker-bushs-cousin-judges-april-gallops-suit
Maybe they were just checking the sources not censoring.

It proves they've got something to cover up, amirite?
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This is probably what they will argue.

Never mind that no family member of the judge is actually named in the suit.
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GWBush was the boss of the 3 named in the suit.

9/11 Truthers can say with a straight face that were no fires in the WTC towers and no airplanes at the Pentagon.
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As of today, I am a 98% Truther and see enough evidence for fires in the WTC (just was not the whole reason for the collapse) and there was one airplane (as seen by 2 Pentagon Police officers et al. on the North Side of the Citgo).
:-| (straight face)
 
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cicorp said:
You will see it is the press release Word Doc is from back in 2008. I meant that April's attorney did not have time to write for the current appeal hearing of April 5, 2011.
http://aneta.org/legalaction/galloppressrelease2008.htm (in more convenient HTML format)
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That's not the press release we're talking about. This is:

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...-by-the-center-for-911-justice-118495499.html

Note that it mentions the date of the current appeal hearing. Eventually.
 
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cicorp said:
GWBush was the boss of the 3 named in the suit.
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Don't ya just hate that :) And a dollar to a donut that they uphold the lower court for rejecting delusional fantasy. She did herself no good at all when she solicited affidavits from Cpt'n Bob, and Hordon. Both of those read like an episode of Buck Rogers and as far removed from reality as Pluto is from the Sun. Bringing in the CIT nonsense just sealed the deal.

Such poetic justice that a Bush family member gets to rule on the lies and deception perpetrated by the Gallop gang. Nonsense law suits like this one makes the entire truth movement look like a bunch of tin-foil looney tunes. That is sad because I have a lot of respect for some involved in the movement. She just chose to align herself with the 'tin foil gang'.
 
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cicorp said:
You're right. JREF is the place to search first thing in the morning for the latest 411 on 9/11, not 911Blogger.

John Mercer Walker, Jr. (born December 26, 1940) is a judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit and a cousin of U.S. Presidents George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_M._Walker

It is a travesty of justice that he was even picked to be a judge.
It is a further travesty he did recuse himself from a case involving his cousin.
It is dishonest that Judge Walker would sit there, all the while knowing he is a cousin, hearing William Veale's objection to his being a potential relative, saying nothing about it, and just denying the objection.
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Um, Bush is not named in the lawsuit. But hey, it's cool.
 
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BCR said:
Don't ya just hate that :) And a dollar to a donut that they uphold the lower court for rejecting delusional fantasy. She did herself no good at all when she solicited affidavits from Cpt'n Bob, and Hordon. Both of those read like an episode of Buck Rogers and as far removed from reality as Pluto is from the Sun. Bringing in the CIT nonsense just sealed the deal.

Such poetic justice that a Bush family member gets to rule on the lies and deception perpetrated by the Gallop gang. Nonsense law suits like this one makes the entire truth movement look like a bunch of tin-foil looney tunes. That is sad because I have a lot of respect for some involved in the movement. She just chose to align herself with the 'tin foil gang'.
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She also did herself no favours wrt to this suit, by previously argueing that American Airlines was the responsible party, and accepting a settlement from AA.
 
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