Assistance required for telepathy proof

[Stray Cat]

You remember it too? I was there!

Naaaa.... if you remember it, you weren't there.

 

[desertgal]

They really know how to throw a good time at the Vatican!

That was the Vatican? I thought it was Caesar's Palace.

I wish these places would get over the trend of painting murals on the ceiling. It's so confusing...

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Naaaa.... if you remember it, you weren't there.

You mean... someone who was there was a telepath?

Rule 1 of jello tub parties: Don't telepathically project about jello tub parties.

 

[dafydd]

That was the Vatican? I thought it was Caesar's Palace.

I wish these places would get over the trend of painting murals on the ceiling. It's so confusing...

Father Ted. "You've met the Pope Dougal."
Dougal. "Have I?"
Father Ted. " Yes,in Rome,at the Vatican."
Dougal. "The old feller living in the art gallery?"

 

[golfy]

Instead of all the useless chit chat why has no one asked about the plots from the University on post #1196?

That is relevant to my claim, all the childish mocking is not. This in why non of you will be judging whether I am telepathic or not, others of higher intellect will.

golfy

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Instead of all the useless chit chat why has no one asked about the plots from the University on post #1196?

Have you got anything interesting to say about them, other than that the university said they didn't demonstrate that you were telepathic?

 

[AdMan]

That is relevant to my claim, all the childish mocking is not. This in why non of you will be judging whether I am telepathic or not, others of higher intellect will.

golfy

golfy, you claim we can all hear your thoughts. So either we already know if you are telepathic, or if we don't hear anything we know you're likely schizophrenic.

Why would we need to judge anything?

 

[Beelzebuddy]

Instead of all the useless chit chat why has no one asked about the plots from the University on post #1196?

>the University

Man's unfailing capacity to believe what he prefers to be true rather than what the evidence shows to be likely and possible has always astounded me. We long for a caring Universe which will save us from our childish mistakes, and in the face of mountains of evidence to the contrary we will pin all our hopes on the slimmest of doubts. God has not been proven not to exist, therefore he must exist.

 

[Akhenaten]

Instead of all the useless chit chat why has no one asked about the plots from the University on post #1196?

Because:

. . . the University staff told me that there was no proof that I was telepathic.

and given that this is in perfect accord with what I already knew, further questioning seems pointless.

That is relevant to my claim, all the childish mocking is not. This in why non of you will be judging whether I am telepathic or not, others of higher intellect will.

golfy

It's only relevant to your claim in that yet another group of people has told you that you don't have a claim.

And nobody of any intellect will ever be judging whether you are telepathic or not. Any test you undertake for the MDC will need to be self-evident, even to dummies like us.

 

[desertgal]

Instead of all the useless chit chat why has no one asked about the plots from the University on post #1196?

No one has a question about them, apparently.

That is relevant to my claim, all the childish mocking is not.

Aww. Was no one paying any attention to widdle you? Poor you.

This in why non of you will be judging whether I am telepathic or not, others of higher intellect will.

golfy

Then why are you here?

In any case, you're right. None of us will be judging. It's already pretty apparent that you are more likely schizophrenic and delusional, and not at all telepathic.

 

[Sean84]

The only relevant thing I can see left to do is figure out how much trouble golfy is trying to get himself into with all this.

So, third time lucky... golfy, care to update us on "the police issue"?

 

[wardenclyffe]

golfy,

If you are telepathic, then James Randi already knows because he can read your thoughts. Your cheque should be in the mail---that is, if he is an honest man. If he's not an honest man, then why do you believe that he would allow an honest test of your abilities. Just keep sending your thoughts and wait for the money to come rolling in.

Ward

 

[GregInAustin]

I haven't read even half of this thread, so forgive me if this has already been suggested... Do I understand correctly that golfy claims to have telepathic abilities but is having trouble testing them?

Here's a simple test:

Go to the food court of a mall or large shopping center. Stand there with a clip board and ask random folks if they would like to take a survey. Tell them there are only 3 questions:
1) What color are you thinking of?
2) What number are you thinking of?
3) What letter are you thinking of?
You (the person taking the survey) simply has to think of the same color, number and letter all day, but do not tell anyone you are trying to tell them "telepathically." If anyone asks, tell them its a marketing survey to determine what color, number and letter to put on a new advertisement.

Once you get 100 people's answers, you are done. Look at the results and see how many (if any) matches there are. Should take a couple hours or so.

I'm thinking of Blue, 5, A.

 

[Oualawouzou]

GregInAustin, that won't work. golfy is persuaded he is telepathic and that everybody knows about it already and is purposefully "messing with him" by lying about it.

If you guess the number he's thinking of, it's proof he is telepathic.
If you guess wrong, it's proof you're lying about the fact he is telepathic.

I wish the above was a caricature.

 

[golfy]

All you have shown me is that you cannot interpret the information given and took the word of the University at face value, despite the obvious evidence presented to you.

I'll obtain proof of my ability myself, you are not up to the task of simple analysis of any kind.

What I did is put an adequate explanation on the forum of the University experiments expecting anyone with a brain to see the obvious contradictions between the data and the University claim but all you have done is show me your lack of ability to analyse anything correctly or discuss anything rationally.

I’ll do it myself.

golfy

 

[wardenclyffe]

golfy,

Here is the correct analysis:

If you are telepathic, then James Randi already knows because he can read your thoughts. Your cheque should be in the mail---that is, if he is an honest man. If he's not an honest man, then why do you believe that he would allow an honest test of your abilities? Just keep sending your thoughts and wait for the money to come rolling in.

Ward

 

[Lucian]

I haven't read even half of this thread, so forgive me if this has already been suggested... Do I understand correctly that golfy claims to have telepathic abilities but is having trouble testing them?

Here's a simple test:

Go to the food court of a mall or large shopping center. Stand there with a clip board and ask random folks if they would like to take a survey. Tell them there are only 3 questions:
1) What color are you thinking of?
2) What number are you thinking of?
3) What letter are you thinking of?
You (the person taking the survey) simply has to think of the same color, number and letter all day, but do not tell anyone you are trying to tell them "telepathically." If anyone asks, tell them its a marketing survey to determine what color, number and letter to put on a new advertisement.

Once you get 100 people's answers, you are done. Look at the results and see how many (if any) matches there are. Should take a couple hours or so.

I'm thinking of Blue, 5, A.

I have read the whole thread, but I just had a thought and I don't remember if anyone's mentioned it (if so, my apologies):

Why are we reading this thread? Why is it necessary? Wouldn't we hear Golfy's posts? And wouldn't we hear the other posts as Golfy reads them? Are all the page views part of the conspiracy?

 

[fromdownunder]

I have read the whole thread, but I just had a thought and I don't remember if anyone's mentioned it (if so, my apologies):

Why are we reading this thread? Why is it necessary? Wouldn't we hear Golfy's posts? And wouldn't we hear the other posts as Golfy reads them? Are all the page views part of the conspiracy?

We do read his thoughts. He knows it, and we know that he knows we know. And we know that he knows that we know he knows...

But we are all liars. Golfy, everything that I say is a lie.

Norm

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Instead of all the useless chit chat why has no one asked about the plots from the University on post #1196?

Because, if what you've described them as showing is what they actually are showing, then the university is correct and they don't show that you have telepathic powers. There is also no control to the experiment that you've posted. Nor are there enough data points in order to attribute any significance to the results, even if they did show the results that they should show if you genuinely had telepathic powers (which they don't).

Three questions which are significant, though.

1) Are there any other telepaths in the world? You keep refusing to answer this question, so I'll explain why it's important. If you believe there are, then you should be able to hear at least one other person's thoughts. If there are, then everybody should be able to hear your thoughts and the thoughts of however many other telepaths there are in the world. If there aren't, then the question to ask is - why you?

2) If everybody in the whole world can constantly hear every thought you have, then how can they go about their own lives? How can surgeons undertaking complicated procedures not be distracted if you're driving a car or at a loud gig? What if you're surprised by someone or something - how can anyone undertaking a dangerous and difficult job be safe if they jump too?

3) Have you ever surprised someone? Like, say, walked round a corner and nearly bumped in to someone? How is this possible if they can hear your thoughts and therefore know where you are and what you're doing?

These questions are important, and it would do you good to stop and think about them, rather than dismissing them or posting glib answers.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

All you have shown me is that you cannot interpret the information given and took the word of the University at face value, despite the obvious evidence presented to you.

All you have shown me is a couple of faint pictures of charts with a lot of high and low bars and a skin conductivity trace superimposed which gradually descends but has a couple of blips along the way.

No, I cannot interpret the information given, because it is not "obvious evidence". I don't know what you think it should tell me, but it's not doing a very good job.

And I don't need to take the university's word for anything because your claim is that I can hear your thoughts at all times, but I don't hear any of your thoughts ever, which gives me all the proof I could possibly need that you are wrong.