Sylvia Browne has had a heart attack

I could be wrong about this, if so, someone please let me know. I believe that after Robert had his stroke, neither Sylvia or her forumites mentioned it. Though it may not be relevant, if that is the way they reacted to his illness, it is the only thing I can think of to commend her for.
 
sadhatter said:
But what about the droves of sylvia fans that are not close to her, but that would be effected by this? Even if we further extend the claim to not knowing about those close to her, she should be able to see, when reading Mrs. Smith from Idaho, that she would be upset about her having a heart attack. Seeing as the vast majority of people she does readings for are not close to her, she still should have had plenty of warning.
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Ah, but this assumes that Sylvia claims to know EVERYHING about a person she is reading, a claim I don't believe she makes.
 
thaiboxerken said:
But it won't come around. She is still wealthy and lives in luxury. If she dies, she will have died without knowing the suffering that she's inflicted on others. I hope she lives, but that sure suffers bankruptcy and poverty.
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That isn't what I meant.

Sylvia Browne has never shown any sympathy for the people she has hurt through her scams. As a result, it's not surprising that many people are either indifferent to her recent health crisis or markedly unsympathetic.
 
wasapi said:
I could be wrong about this, if so, someone please let me know. I believe that after Robert had his stroke, neither Sylvia or her forumites mentioned it. Though it may not be relevant, if that is the way they reacted to his illness, it is the only thing I can think of to commend her for.
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Well, he received at least one email that he shared here by someone claiming his stroke was a punishment by God.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=163498

I don't know what was said in Sylvia's forum, though. I'm not sure that forum existed yet. Nor do I know of anything said by Sylvia herself regarding Robert's stroke. Not that I am in the circles anymore where I would have heard it.
 
RSLancastr said:
Ah, but this assumes that Sylvia claims to know EVERYHING about a person she is reading, a claim I don't believe she makes.
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But in all the readings she does, she never stumbled across this? She knows of much more minute things in peoples lives, and there is a general trend in her readings of noticing the " big" things. And seeing as the kind of people that would pay for the readings to her would be very big fans, it strains even her own internal logic to think that not once would this have came up.
 
ExMinister said:
Well, he received at least one email that he shared here by someone claiming his stroke was a punishment by God.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=163498
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I had forgotten that one, thanks! But he/she backed off a bit from that in his/her reply to my reply, both in that thread as well.

I don't know what was said in Sylvia's forum, though. I'm not sure that forum existed yet. Nor do I know of anything said by Sylvia herself regarding Robert's stroke. Not that I am in the circles anymore where I would have heard it.
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Well, as I said earlier, I have been told, by someone in Browne's office, that, after learning of my stroke, Browne announced that the stroke had happened after she had prayed to her goddess Azna that I be stopped.
 
A couple of other points occured to me last night regarding the inappropriateness/illogic of asking "Why didn't she see this coming?"

1) It assumes facts not in evidence. We have no proof that she didn't "see it coming". It makes sense, from our point of view, that if a person "saw" they were going to have a heart attack, they would take steps to prevent it from happening. But, in Browne's promoted "philosophy", a major health event like a heart attack would have been something she had "charted" (chosen to happen) before she was even born, to teach her a "life lesson" she needed to learn during this life.

Given that philosophy, it could be said by her or her suppoprters that she DID "see it coming", but nobly decided that she needed to "keep her contract with God (meaning her "chart") and NOT take steps to avoid the attack.

This also brings to mind:

2) She has said before (I believe in regards to the 9/11 attacks) that if something is "supposed" to happen (or if it is ordained by God or something), she can't see it, because God doesn't want it prevented. I (obviously, I hope) don't buy it, but she, or her staff, could quite easily use this (in addition to the "I can't be psychic about myself" thing) to dismiss the "why didn't she see this coming?" question.
 
And, for those who didn't see this in my thread "Resident Skeptic - Show #4"

I began my radio show on Saturday with the following:

Before I start today's show, a few words about Sylvia Browne's health.

As some of you know, I am the creator and author of a web site named "Stop Sylvia Browne", which presents a

skeptical analysis of Browne's predictions and behavior through the years. It is no secret that there is no love

lost between Sylvia and me. She has sicced an attorney on me in a failed attempt to have my site shut down,

has spoken in an interview about having hired a private investigator to "dig up dirt" on me, and once had my wife

and me escorted out of the Excalibur casino in Las Vegas by hotel security for no good reason.

But, despite our historyr, it gave me no pleasure to read yesterday of Sylvia being hospitalized in Hawaii a few

days ago from a heart attack. Whatever else might be said of her, she is a human being, with a family that loves

her, and I want to wish her a speedy and full recovery, and to wish her family strength in what I'm sure is a

difficult time for them.
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At least we know why she had a heart attack. According to Society of Novus Spiritus (linked from sylviabrowne.com): "...[Sylvia Browne] has literally put her heart and soul into this Gnostic mission..." (emphasis mine)

!!!
 
Sledge said:
I'm perfectly happy to wish her dead. The world will be a slightly better place for her passing.
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Beaver Hateman said:
She's 74. Dying at 74 peacefully of a heart attack is too good for her. I hope she recovers so something far worse can happen.
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I'm in this camp too. I can't have sympathy for the families of Opal Jo Jennings and all the other families who have been hurt by Browne and also have sympathy for Browne at the same time. My sympathies lie in one camp or the other, and it ain't Browne's.

Just watch this space - if she recovers, I'll bet she'll claim she had an OOB experience and visited the afterlife. A new book will come from it and her schedule of appearances will increase. She may even end up back on a TV show like Montel out of this.
 
Reno said:
Just watch this space - if she recovers, I'll bet she'll claim she had an OOB experience and visited the afterlife. A new book will come from it and her schedule of appearances will increase. She may even end up back on a TV show like Montel out of this.
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Personally, I'm not convinced she had a heart attack at all and see this as a staged even for just what you've indicated (ie. ask for money, new book, etc.).
 
Locknar said:
Personally, I'm not convinced she had a heart attack at all and see this as a staged even for just what you've indicated (ie. ask for money, new book, etc.).
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If that is the case, then I am willing to toss out any shred of concern for her I may have had. If she makes any money out of this at all.
 
Consider the source; the ONLY source of this reported heart attack is her church. Any media reporting, such as the Hawaii Reporter, simply refer/reprint their "press release"...which is really just a "how to donate money" instruction.

I think a real heart attack would have gotten some press coverage; Montel, Larry King, etc. in the press talking about...yet oddly silent.
 
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