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Merged nuclear power safe?

PhantomWolf said:
As you have already been told .... http://www.radprocalculator.com/Gamma.aspx
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blah blah blah blah blah

Hey banana man, you can't just go from x bq from potassium in bananas to y mrem. Activity is only one factor in the equation. The banana, how far away it is, what shielding you have, it is internal or external, all of these factors play a part in determining the dosage.

What you are doing is like being given a banana and wanting to know the damage from it.

You can't do that.

But if you could, a few second of Googling and you can find out how.
 
Puppycow said:
As More Nuclear Plant Damage Is Found, Japan Presses Repair Efforts

About those workers exposed to radiation:



ETA: Remember the helpful xckd chart

2 sieverts is "severe radiation poisoning, in some cases fatal", 4 is "extremely severe radiation poisoning. survival sometimes possible with prompt treatment" while 8 means death.
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The current version of the NYT article does not contain the sentence with the 2 to 8 sieverts numbers anymore. The article ends with the "10,000 times above normal" statement. It seems someone caught the mistake.
 
Tests revealed that while the two received 170 to 180 millisieverts of radiation, within the maximum allowable dose of 250 millisieverts, their feet were exposed to between 2 and 6 sieverts. One sievert is equivalent to 1,000 millisieverts. But their injuries are not thought to be life-threatening and will be treated the same way as regular burns, the institute said, adding that the workers are able to walk unassisted.
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http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110327a1.html
 
JihadJane said:
Equating a nine volt battery with a nuclear power station is deceptive. The same could be said about a toothpick.
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I am not equating anything with anything. I am stating that a 9V battery isn't safe, and also that vending machines aren't safe, both of the above can be fatal if misused.

I was illustrating the point that nothing is safe, even everyday items that most people will rarely damage themselves with.

This is not sophistry.

The thread topic is "is nuclear power safe?" and the answer to that question is no. However if you look at the number of deaths/injuries caused by the nuclear power industry compared to all other power generation activities, it's the safest form of power generation that we have.

A better thread question would be is nuclear power safe enough? Of course the answer to that is YES!

The rest of your argument reads like "because hi tech civilisation is going to collapse any day now, we must not use nuclear energy because it would endanger the lives of those "lucky" enough to remain behind"

Which seems a bit of a dumb reason to not want to use nuclear power to me. If I have summarised your argument incorrectly I apologise.
 
Ambrosia said:
The thread topic is "is nuclear power safe?" and the answer to that question is no. However if you look at the number of deaths/injuries caused by the nuclear power industry compared to all other power generation activities, it's the safest form of power generation that we have.
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Because how many people die is the only yardstick to measure safety. Not how many could die, not how much economic damage could happen, not how much land could be made unusable, not how much food and water could be poisoned, not how much fear and how many people have to be evacuated, only how many people have died so far, that's the only thing that matters.

How can anyone actually say that? I think you have to be pulling my leg.
 
Pardalis said:
Report me, Kapo.
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calling a Jew, who had relatives die in the Holocaust, a previleged prisoner in a Nazi concentration camp who conspired with the Nazis....... is very rude.

I must say, I've never been called a Nazi-collaborator before.
 
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Then stop bugging me.

I only advised Phantom Wolf to be aware that JJ has her own spin on words, and then you came in out of the blue and pretended to be a moderator.
 
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Pardalis said:
Then stop bugging me.

I only advised Phantom Wolf to be aware that JJ has her own spin on words, and then you came in out of the blue and pretended to be a moderator.
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no, I was informing you that its ill-advised to attack another member using various posts from utterly unrelated threads.

as you could get infracted for derailing.

...then you called me a Kapo, which is highly offensive to me and the Mods, as you are inferring that I am a Nazi collaborator and the Mods are Nazis.
 
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Thunder said:
no, I was informing you that its ill-advised to attack another member using various posts from utterly unrelated threads.
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Using previous behaviour to educate other posters about that person's ability to be reasonable can be very related to the current thread. Don't you agree that preventing loss of time and effort towards what would be a futile endeavour is a good thing ?
 
r-j said:
not how much economic damage could happen, not how much land could be made unusable, not how much food and water could be poisoned, not how much fear and how many people have to be evacuated
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I can answer that in four words.

Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill

Or three words.

Dobrnja-Jug mine disaster

Or two words.

Exxon Valdez

Take into account all the possible variables and the nuclear industry is one of the safest that there is. If you have evidence to refute that then bring it.
 
Ambrosia said:
I can answer that in four words.

Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill

Or three words.

Dobrnja-Jug mine disaster

Or two words.

Exxon Valdez

Take into account all the possible variables and the nuclear industry is one of the safest that there is. If you have evidence to refute that then bring it.
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I can asnwer you in one word :P

Bhopal.

Although to be fair I am not sure how much the clean up or long term pollution were (still thousands of dead).
 
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