How can a nuclear power plant create a hydrogen explosion?

[phunk]

Except they bring in nuclear fuel, and bring out nuclear waste. The process of converting the one into the other creates lots of energy. But your theory is that they just throw away that energy somehow and use another method (that's not even possible in theory) to generate the same amount?

 

[Anders Lindman]

Except they bring in nuclear fuel, and bring out nuclear waste. The process of converting the one into the other creates lots of energy. But your theory is that they just throw away that energy somehow and use another method (that's not even possible in theory) to generate the same amount?

Yeah, they just (according to this latest far-out conspiracy theory) use the uranium for show because it cannot be used to generate enough heat in reality. And the reason that the water power technology has to be kept secret is because it's too dangerous to let out that knowledge to the public.

 

[Skwinty]

Yeah, they just (according to this latest far-out conspiracy theory) use the uranium for show because it cannot be used to generate enough heat in reality. And the reason that the water power technology has to be kept secret is because it's too dangerous to let out that knowledge to the public.

So nuclear bombs are actually water bombs.

 

[Anders Lindman]

So is the theory of nulcear fission and conversion of mass to energy all a load of rubbish then?

Are you ok re nuclear fusion (I mean the hot sort, not the cold sort)?

I think that nuclear fission power (such as in nuclear power plants) is real, and that nuclear fusion is real. Yet I find it interesting to speculate about some extreme conspiracy theories, such as the idea that nuclear power plants are in reality water power plants.

 

[Bill Thompson]

Magruber could do it.

 

[KingMerv00]

I think that nuclear fission power (such as in nuclear power plants) is real, and that nuclear fusion is real. Yet I find it interesting to speculate about some extreme conspiracy theories, such as the idea that nuclear power plants are in reality water power plants.

Near as I can tell, you've gone beyond speculation and into believing. Why? What evidence do you have that such power plants can and do exist?

 

[Anders Lindman]

Near as I can tell, you've gone beyond speculation and into believing. Why? What evidence do you have that such power plants can and do exist?

The idea of water power plants is very speculative. The idea came to me from water fuel technologies like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOGAkRkCWfA

 

[Grassy Knowlington]

Plus the idea of 'critical mass' doesn't ring true for me.

But isn't that how a nuclear power plant works? The control system maintains a balance (critical mass) so that the chain reaction doesn't fizzle out or get carried away. Do you agree?

 

[KingMerv00]

The idea of water power plants is very speculative. The idea came to me from water fuel technologies like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOGAkRkCWfA

It's not speculative, it is a violation of the laws of thermodynamics.

Step 1
2H₂O + energy ---------> 2H₂ + O₂

Step 2
2H₂ + O₂ ----------> 2H₂O + energy

The problem is that the energy you put into step one is ALWAYS less than the energy you get out of it in step 2. You are therefore better off taking the energy source from step 1 and hooking it directly to your output instead of wasting energy splitting water. This is fundamental chemistry.

 

[twinstead]

Sounds like your 6 year old is very perceptive.

LOL yea, that's what it is

 

[Anders Lindman]

But isn't that how a nuclear power plant works? The control system maintains a balance (critical mass) so that the chain reaction doesn't fizzle out or get carried away. Do you agree?

The nuclear chain reaction process is exponential, so they can't keep a critical mass too long in a nuclear power plant because it would become too hot. What they do must be to regulate the fuel rods so that they don't become too hot.

 

[KingMerv00]

Sounds like your 6 year old is very perceptive.

If I tell you "it feels right", would that carry any weight with you?

 

[Anders Lindman]

It's not speculative, it is a violation of the laws of thermodynamics.

Step 1
2H₂O + energy ---------> 2H₂ + O₂

Step 2
2H₂ + O₂ ----------> 2H₂O + energy

The problem is that the energy you put into step one is ALWAYS less than the energy you get out of it in step 2. You are therefore better off taking the energy source from step 1 and hooking it directly to your output instead of wasting energy splitting water. This is fundamental chemistry.

That's why I said that water fuel technology, such as Stanley Meyer's, involves zero point energy. That's how the technology breaks the laws of thermodynamics.

"The critical factor here is that linear systems tend toward increasing entropy (i.e. the result of two inputs being the sum of their corresponding outputs), whereas under certain conditions, nonlinear systems have been shown to evolve toward macroscopic order. Such nonlinear systems imply transient or apparently uncontrolled systems, but the reality remains that clever designs can and do provide means to skirt traditional understandings of thermodynamic limitations and literally tap into the surrounding universe for unlimited amounts of useful energy." -- From: http://www.halexandria.org/dward154.htm

 

[Anders Lindman]

Looks like a meeting of minds.

"If you can't explain it to a 6 year old then you really don't understand it yourself." — Albert Einstein

 

[Anders Lindman]

If I tell you "it feels right", would that carry any weight with you?

Yes! But I would also want some rational explanation too. It's too risky imo to only follow gut feelings.

 

[Bill Thompson]

Actually, as part of the vast right-wing conspiracy, I can tell you that they are designed to explode once we get enough members of the working class to buy homes around them whilst we continue to buy million dollar luxury estates far away from the danger.

 

[KingMerv00]

Yes!

Why?

But I would also want some rational explanation too. It's too risky imo to only follow gut feelings.

Isn't that what you're doing?

 

[Anders Lindman]

Why?



Isn't that what you're doing?

Feelings carry important information. Someone did a study and interviewed a hundred or so large business (such as fortune 500) CEOs and the result was that what they did was to follow their gut feelings whereas people in lower positions in the companies didn't follow their feelings to the same extent.

I myself want to have rational explanations plus feelings, not only follow feelings.

 

[KingMerv00]

Feelings carry important information. Someone did a study and interviewed a hundred or so large business (such as fortune 500) CEOs and the result was that what they did was to follow their gut feelings whereas people in lower positions in the companies didn't follow their feelings to the same extent.

I myself want to have rational explanations plus feelings, not only follow feelings.

Speaking of evidence, do you have a link to that study? Was it replicated?

 

[Skwinty]

I myself want to have rational explanations plus feelings, not only follow feelings.

Read a science book then.