How can a nuclear power plant create a hydrogen explosion?

Anders Lindman said:
The idea is that Kingdom Kong is like going millions of years back in evolution.
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I'll think you'll find that the entire Theory of Evolution is just an elaborate hoax. You can't go back "millions of years" in evolution, because the Earth wasn't even invented until 1620, when the aliens "landed" on Plymouth Rock.
 
ZirconBlue said:
I'll think you'll find that the entire Theory of Evolution is just an elaborate hoax. You can't go back "millions of years" in evolution, because the Earth wasn't even invented until 1620, when the aliens "landed" on Plymouth Rock.
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To be a pedantic bore surely it was 1607 with the founding of Jamestown? Or even 1585-ish when Sir Walter Rayleigh landed in his ship at Roanoke Island off what is now NC?
 
Anders Lindman said:
Sounds suspicious to me. Couldn't it be that it was not really a nuclear power plant and instead a water fuel cell plant, disguised as a nuclear power plant to keep the technology (similar to Stanley Meyer's invention) secret?
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Actually, the plant was a front and actually produced nuclear hand grenades. The hydrogen explosions are some of these smaller devices going off.
 
Well, I'm in.

I'll go with heat in the containment vessel leading to chemical reactions producing hydrogen. Don't know a thing about it, but sounds reasonable.

But then, in order to avoid pressure build up they vented the containment vessel into the interior of the reactor building? Duh. That makes no sense, it's asking for an explosion.

Also, videos of the explosions at reactors 1 and 3 are radically different. The explosion at reactor 3 shoots straight up. The only explanation for the difference I've seen is that the reactor 3 explosion originated underground. The best info, and most knowledgeable people, I've seen seen on the subject is the Stormfront forum, but I'm banned there so can't ask questions :<. Getting an idea of what going on from MSM seems impossible, nobody knows nothing.

One other thing ... I've seen maps showing radiation reading at the measuring stations in Japan, but the areas around the reactors is .... not present, being calibrated, some sort of excuse. I'm wondering if current readings are available.
 
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Anders Lindman said:
But even the look of the reactor would be similar in both cases! For example, check out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOGAkRkCWfA
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Can't watch youtube videos right now. How about you address my other points until I can? How does the Japanese plant create nuclear waste? They take in fissle material. If they aren't using it to create power, where did it go? Why is there suddenly a plume of radiation centered around the explosion?
 
Saggy said:
Also, videos of the explosions at reactors 1 and 3 are radically different. The explosion at reactor 3 shoots straight up. The only explanation for the difference I've seen is that the reactor 3 explosion originated underground. The best info, and most knowledgeable people, I've seen seen on the subject is the Stormfront forum, but I'm banned there so can't ask questions :<. Getting an idea of what going on from MSM seems impossible, nobody knows nothing.
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Off the top of my head I can think of a couple of reasons that could explain why they looked different -

Different amount of Hydrogen, so different strength expolsions. One big enough to destroy entire building, and one smaller so only took roof off, sending plume stright up.

Explosions originating in different areas of buildings.

Weather conditions.

without more info can't be sure, but there are loads of perfectly rational explanations before you jump to 'its all a fraud'..

As for why the Hydrogen was vented into the Buildings, again without more info we can't be sure, but there is a possible explanation based on previous testing on the link below (sorry I can't post links properly yet)

allthingsnuclear.org/post/3940804083/possible-cause-of-reactor-building-explosions

Basically the presure may have gotten so high between venting that it forced a little steam/Hydrogen out of the seals into the building, causing the build up/explosion.

Another possible explanation is they were trying to stop the slightly radioactive steam etc just being vented into atmosphere.
 
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twinstead said:
How the hell did you get banned on stormfront, saggy?
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Off topic ... but ... I'm a big fan of David Duke, and he bought into some internet tale about some old Israeli academic calling for the destruction of Europe, which he probably did, but the references for it were English translations of Russian translations of an Israeli radio broadcast in 199?. Duke put a blurb about it on his web site and I suggested on Stormfront that perhaps DD should restrict himself to better sourced claims. That was enough to get me banned :< I was trying to be helpful, but not even constructive criticism of DD is permitted.
 
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Anders Lindman said:
I got the idea earlier when I read some posts from someone who had a totally outrageous claim about nuclear power being a hoax. I'm open to all kinds of wild theories, but that was over the top even for me, lol. But it made me think that, as a conspiracy theory, some nuclear power plants could actually easily in reality be water fuel cell plants in disguise. Still a pretty far-out conspiracy theory, but anyway, I want to have all options on the table.
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To what end?
 
Saggy said:
You gotta see them. They're totally different types of beasts. Let's see if I can google them up ....
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I have seen them, the only footage available is shot from several miles away at full speed, so does not really give much info. There are still many normal 'everyday' reasons that may explain this, without having to get anywhere near faking it or a conspiricy. For all we know one of these explosion involved many many times more Hydrogen than the other. which would explain a difference. We also don't really know how badly damaged the buildings were before the explosions.
 
Mr Zog said:
As for why the Hydrogen was vented into the Buildings, again without more info we can't be sure, but there is a possible explanation based on previous testing on the link below (sorry I can't post links properly yet)

allthingsnuclear.org/post/3940804083/possible-cause-of-reactor-building-explosions

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Sounds reasonable.
 
Saggy said:
Well, I'm in.

I'll go with heat in the containment vessel leading to chemical reactions producing hydrogen. Don't know a thing about it, but sounds reasonable.

But then, in order to avoid pressure build up they vented the containment vessel into the interior of the reactor building? Duh. That makes no sense, it's asking for an explosion.

Also, videos of the explosions at reactors 1 and 3 are radically different. The explosion at reactor 3 shoots straight up. The only explanation for the difference I've seen is that the reactor 3 explosion originated underground. The best info, and most knowledgeable people, I've seen seen on the subject is the Stormfront forum, but I'm banned there so can't ask questions :<. Getting an idea of what going on from MSM seems impossible, nobody knows nothing.

One other thing ... I've seen maps showing radiation reading at the measuring stations in Japan, but the areas around the reactors is .... not present, being calibrated, some sort of excuse. I'm wondering if current readings are available.
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Interesting info. I have actually only followed the nuclear accident very little, but I became interested in the hydrogen explosion, caused by kryptonite...eh excuse me, zirconium super-fast oxidation.
 
KingMerv00 said:
Can't watch youtube videos right now. How about you address my other points until I can? How does the Japanese plant create nuclear waste? They take in fissle material. If they aren't using it to create power, where did it go? Why is there suddenly a plume of radiation centered around the explosion?
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My conspiracy theory is that only some of the nuclear power plants would be water fuel cell power plants in disguise, and that most power plants are ordinary nuclear plants.
 
Mr Zog said:
I have seen them, the only footage available is shot from several miles away at full speed, so does not really give much info. There are still many normal 'everyday' reasons that may explain this, without having to get anywhere near faking it or a conspiricy. For all we know one of these explosion involved many many times more Hydrogen than the other. which would explain a difference. We also don't really know how badly damaged the buildings were before the explosions.
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I have seen no explanation, other than the one I quoted earlier, as to why one explosion was horizontal and the other was vertical. The fact that the reactor 3 explosion shot straight up suggests that at its origin it was constrained horizontally, i.e., it did not originate in the top of the building, as the explosion at reactor 1 probably did.
 
NoahFence said:
To what end?
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Ok, I guess I need to explain the reason for the conspiracy theory. Disclaimer: Now it becomes a little tinfoil hattish, so be prepared for outrageous speculation. The idea is that water fuel cell technology has to be kept secret, mainly for the reason that it is based on zero point energy knowledge. The knowledge about that has in turn to be kept secret for security reasons, because it could be used for creating very powerful weapons and so the knowledge cannot safely be introduced on the public market.
 
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