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How'd he win in the first place?

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Amusing story from the vibrant world of Wisconsin politics:

Wisconsin State Sen. Randy Hopper, a close Republican ally of Gov. Scott Walker, is among the eight senators that activists will try to recall for supporting the infamous "budget repair bill" to weaken public sector unions. So this weekend, some protesters marched to his house — yikes! — to have a chat. But his wife answered the door and told the protesters that Hopper lives with his 25-year-old girlfriend now, and a divorce is underway.

Not surprisingly, his wife said she would join Team Recall and sign the petition. The (ex-)family's maid, apparently, had already signed it.
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http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-chait/85208/wisconsin-senators-wife-ex-maid-support-recall

Before the usual dance starts, the party has nothing to do with the humor.
 
I think marching on someone's house, even a politician, is a disgusting and sleazy tactic. Protest at his office or at public appearances, have some class.

Does anyone need more proof that "card check" is a horrible idea? The entire purpose of it is give union thugs names of the people to harass with sleazeball tactics like this.
 
WildCat said:
The entire purpose of it is give union thugs names of the people to harass with sleazeball tactics like this.
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Does protesting outside someones house, or ringing the doorbell and talking to their wife make you a "thug"? I had always assumed you had to do something violent. Otherwise, I suppose every description of a right-wing gathering of people could just throw in "thug" as an adjective. "The economist thugs at the Chicago School of Economics met yesterday to discuss lowering taxes for the rich" etc.
 
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I disapprove of protesting personal residencies and bringing irrelevant personal problems into the political arena.
 
stokes234 said:
Does protesting outside someones house, or ringing the doorbell and talking to their wife make you a "thug"? I had always assumed you had to do something violent. Otherwise, I suppose every description of a right-wing gathering of people could just throw in "thug" as an adjective. "The economist thugs at the Chicago School of Economics met yesterday to discuss lowering taxes for the rich" etc.
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Harassing people at their homes makes you a thug, whether or not you are violent.
 
WildCat said:
Harassing people at their homes makes you a thug, whether or not you are violent.
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Hmm.

Dictionary.com:

–noun
1. a cruel or vicious ruffian, robber, or murderer.
2. ( sometimes initial capital letter ) one of a former group of professional robbers and murderers in India who strangled their victims.

World English Dictionary:

— n
1. a tough and violent man, esp a criminal
2. ( sometimes capital ) (formerly) a member of an organization of robbers and assassins in India who typically strangled their victims

Urbandictionary.com (for lols):

As Tupac defined it, a thug is someone who is going through struggles, has gone through struggles, and continues to live day by day with nothing for them. That person is a thug. and the life they are living is the thug life.

I'm not seeing anything about non-violent house protesters. What about Jehovahs Witnesses - they harrass people in their homes, are they thugs? What about door-to-door salesmen?
 
stokes234 said:
Hmm.

Dictionary.com:

–noun
1. a cruel or vicious ruffian, robber, or murderer.
2. ( sometimes initial capital letter ) one of a former group of professional robbers and murderers in India who strangled their victims.

World English Dictionary:

— n
1. a tough and violent man, esp a criminal
2. ( sometimes capital ) (formerly) a member of an organization of robbers and assassins in India who typically strangled their victims

Urbandictionary.com (for lols):

As Tupac defined it, a thug is someone who is going through struggles, has gone through struggles, and continues to live day by day with nothing for them. That person is a thug. and the life they are living is the thug life.

I'm not seeing anything about non-violent house protesters. What about Jehovahs Witnesses - they harrass people in their homes, are they thugs? What about door-to-door salesmen?
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They're at the guy's house to intimidate him.

This is exactly why the unions want card check passed - so they can intimidate those who vote against union membership. And they will do it at their homes.

Get pedantic over my hyperbole if you wish, it doesn't change the fact that they went to the guys home to intimidate him and his family. Will they now show up at the girlfriend's house?
 
WildCat said:
They're at the guy's house to intimidate him.

This is exactly why the unions want card check passed - so they can intimidate those who vote against union membership. And they will do it at their homes.

Get pedantic over my hyperbole if you wish, it doesn't change the fact that they went to the guys home to intimidate him and his family. Will they now show up at the girlfriend's house?
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You used words that imply violence, and I pointed out that no violence was reported. If you don't want to be corrected, don't use words with false implications.

I don't know if they'll show up at the girlfriends house, but i've had protestors outside my house (one of my family members is a politician) and really, it wasn't all that intimidating. I just watched TV, and eventually they went away.

Now, if they try to hurt anyone or break in, i'll be right up there with you condemning it.
 
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Unable to win at the elections through persuasion, you seek to cow people down through fear and screaming. You are the last remaining vestiges of might makes right. Keep your idiocy up in front of the cameras, which you think helps your cause. Good riddance.
 
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Beerina said:
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Unable to win at the elections through persuasion, you seek to cow people down through fear and screaming. You are the last remaining vestiges of might makes right. Keep your idiocy up in front of the cameras, which you think helps your cause. Good riddance.
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Did I misread the report? I didn't see anything about physical intimidation, "cowing people down through fear", or screaming.
 
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Unabogie said:
Quite the feat of mind reading here. Evidence?
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Do you even know what card check is? It's the elimination of the secret ballot. Why don't the unions want a secret ballot? So they can put pressure on those who voted "no".

If you can think of another reason, I'm all ears. A secret ballot is key to a democratic process.
 
Beerina said:
If physical intimidation is your only remaining argument, I invite you to fall off the face of the Earth and die as a useless POS. That's the correct level of appropriate counter-argumentation.

Unable to win at the elections through persuasion, you seek to cow people down through fear and screaming. You are the last remaining vestiges of might makes right. Keep your idiocy up in front of the cameras, which you think helps your cause. Good riddance.
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*cuts a gas line at someone's house*
 
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