Raising Kids Who Can Think

Teaching thinking in general requires exposure to as many stimuli as possible. For example, if I hold up this picture:
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and then I show you these Chinese characters:
打哈欠

What do you think that means? It could mean tiger, or fangs, or tongue, or dangerous, or whiskers, etc.

Now if I hold up these other pictures:
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667px-Herring_Gull_yawning.jpg
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And I show you those Chinese characters again. Then you have a pretty good idea that it probably means yawn or something to do with opening the mouth. At the very least, I'm teaching you that the meaning of those characters are not specific to the tiger and can be generalized to at least three other species.

You always have to keep in mind that children have extremely limited innate knowledge. If you want to teach a child something, you're the one who will have to make the association between different stimuli in order for them to learn.

You're the one who has to teach the child which behaviors and strategies can be generalized and which ones have limited utility. So if you teach a child to think critically in one situation, that does not mean the child will automatically generalize that skill to other situations. You have to expose the child to those other situations and teach them to use those skills. In the end, it's a competition between your ability to teach the child to generalize critical thinking skills and society's ability to confine those skills.
 
I think there is another element that the video leaves out. For questions where you can appeal to nature and experiment for yourself, what is described is fine, but most of what we come to believe and act on has a social aspect and is influenced by information we do not have direct access to and cannot test independently.

For this reason, I'd advocate not only using critical thinking skills but also teach them how to fool other people. Teach them to select evidence and spin it to fit an argument. Only by being aware of this social-level process will they be properly armed to detect it when it is used against them.

So, for instance, in any particular, well-circumscribed context, like a 911-Truther site, or a typical Sunday school, the filtered-evidence will make a strong case. The context-space shapes the experience. Only by bringing in outside information can one fight the internal consistency. Understanding how this works is essential; as essential as knowing that something logically correct may still be false in the meta-sense.

Finally, once they glom onto methods for fooling others, they can take a close look at how we fool ourselves and come to distrust their own judgment and sense of certainty. A nice counterbalance necessary to keep critical thinking in context.

Living with uncertainty, bias, hypocrisy, emotional need, and a host of other human conditions -- and discovering these same things in oneself -- is an admirable measure of maturity that I fear many die without obtaining.
 
Last December, I gave a presentation on how critical thinking can reduce stereotypes and prejudice in schools. One of the themes was exposing the audience to the fallibility of the mind. I gave a quick test to show that what you see is not always reality. Specifically, I had them read a sentence and then count the number of 'F's. Most, including my intelligent lawyer-professor, made a mistake. It's important to teach humility through examples of personal weakness.
 
I would like to also add: Wait until they are a little older. Like between the ages of 10-12. Those are the years in which they naturally develop the ability to think critically at a very particular stage of natural development of the brain, which Piaget called the Period of Formal Operations. http://www.childdevelopmentinfo.com/development/piaget.shtml

It has further been suggested that if you force it, and force it too early, you may end up confusing the child, and could be quite counter-productive.
 
I would like to also add: Wait until they are a little older. Like between the ages of 10-12. Those are the years in which they naturally develop the ability to think critically at a very particular stage of natural development of the brain, which Piaget called the Period of Formal Operations. http://www.childdevelopmentinfo.com/development/piaget.shtml

It has further been suggested that if you force it, and force it too early, you may end up confusing the child, and could be quite counter-productive.

Quite true. And really enjoyable as well -- finding a few holes in the cloth of "accepted knowledge."
 
I just think we need to place as much emphasis on learning as is possible with kids without turning them into neurotic head cases.

Right before the tsunami hit Japan a young girl travelling with her family saw the tide coming in but not receding. She remembered from her schooling that this is a warning sign of a tsunami. She warned her family and they escaped to safety.

She has since been called an angel and a gift from heaven for the lives she saved. If the credit went where it was due, education and learning as opposed to gifts from an invisible deity, maybe people would begin to take school more seriously.

But no. We have to praise a non-existent creator for something that was learned through scientific observation and taught through education. Why can't we give credit to it's proper source? I'm sure that would do loads for educational involvement.
 
I would like to also add: Wait until they are a little older. Like between the ages of 10-12. Those are the years in which they naturally develop the ability to think critically at a very particular stage of natural development of the brain, which Piaget called the Period of Formal Operations. http://www.childdevelopmentinfo.com/development/piaget.shtml

It has further been suggested that if you force it, and force it too early, you may end up confusing the child, and could be quite counter-productive.

Piaget greatly underestimated children's abilities.

Recent research has shown that experience has a much more significant influence on children than Piaget predicted.

People like to think that the whole nature vs. nurture debate is 50-50 but the experimental evidence weighs more in favor of nurture than people realize. Take this video for example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKSvu3mj-14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erhmslcHvaw

Skinner and Epstein managed to teach pigeons, creatures with brains the size of walnuts, behaviors that we attribute to innate intelligence. Think of what we can teach children. It's all a matter of how you teach them.
 
I just think we need to place as much emphasis on learning as is possible with kids without turning them into neurotic head cases.

Right before the tsunami hit Japan a young girl travelling with her family saw the tide coming in but not receding. She remembered from her schooling that this is a warning sign of a tsunami. She warned her family and they escaped to safety.

She has since been called an angel and a gift from heaven for the lives she saved. If the credit went where it was due, education and learning as opposed to gifts from an invisible deity, maybe people would begin to take school more seriously.

But no. We have to praise a non-existent creator for something that was learned through scientific observation and taught through education. Why can't we give credit to it's proper source? I'm sure that would do loads for educational involvement.

Thank God for that teacher who taught her about tsunamis.

( Just yanking yer chain PGH :D )

How about not over thinking every little thing and just ask the kids: "Why do you think that?" once in awhile, they can really surprise you some times and it engages critical thinking.
 
Right before the tsunami hit Japan a young girl travelling with her family saw the tide coming in but not receding. She remembered from her schooling that this is a warning sign of a tsunami. She warned her family and they escaped to safety.

Uh, that story was told about the Indian Ocean tsunami a few years back. And before a tidal wave hits the surf goes out and doesn't come back in, not the other way around.
 
I would like to also add: Wait until they are a little older. Like between the ages of 10-12. Those are the years in which they naturally develop the ability to think critically at a very particular stage of natural development of the brain, which Piaget called the Period of Formal Operations. http://www.childdevelopmentinfo.com/development/piaget.shtml

I call BS. My kids could think critically at half that age. And nobody "naturally develops" that skill, it must be learned.
 
I just think we need to place as much emphasis on learning as is possible with kids without turning them into neurotic head cases.

Right before the tsunami hit Japan a young girl travelling with her family saw the tide coming in but not receding. She remembered from her schooling that this is a warning sign of a tsunami. She warned her family and they escaped to safety.

She has since been called an angel and a gift from heaven for the lives she saved. If the credit went where it was due, education and learning as opposed to gifts from an invisible deity, maybe people would begin to take school more seriously.

But no. We have to praise a non-existent creator for something that was learned through scientific observation and taught through education. Why can't we give credit to it's proper source? I'm sure that would do loads for educational involvement.

I am going to have to call you out on this, for turning it into a religious discussion, when clearly it is not.

I suppose any excuse for people to bash on those who happen to believe in God. :rolleyes:
 
Piaget greatly underestimated children's abilities.

Recent research has shown that experience has a much more significant influence on children than Piaget predicted.

People like to think that the whole nature vs. nurture debate is 50-50 but the experimental evidence weighs more in favor of nurture than people realize. Take this video for example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKSvu3mj-14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erhmslcHvaw

Skinner and Epstein managed to teach pigeons, creatures with brains the size of walnuts, behaviors that we attribute to innate intelligence. Think of what we can teach children. It's all a matter of how you teach them.

I'll take a look at those videos later on tonight. Thanks for the links. :)

When it comes to nature vs. nurture, I am kind of split on the issue myself. I have studied a lot of psychology. Especially child psychology. I did, after all, become a teacher. ;)

But it does appear that you are correct that Piaget underestimated child development. This is a point I tend to agree with myself. But I still think there is something to it. I'll explain later, as I have to finish this project I am currently working on.
 
I'll take a look at those videos later on tonight. Thanks for the links. :)

When it comes to nature vs. nurture, I am kind of split on the issue myself. I have studied a lot of psychology. Especially child psychology. I did, after all, become a teacher. ;)

But it does appear that you are correct that Piaget underestimated child development. This is a point I tend to agree with myself. But I still think there is something to it. I'll explain later, as I have to finish this project I am currently working on.

I hope you've taken some behavior analysis classes. I know behaviorism is not very popular in psychology right now but you'd be surprised at just how much research supports the effectiveness of behaviorist methods. It's actually a very misunderstood field, even by psychologists. Contrary to popular belief, behaviorist principles are not relegated to simple behaviors. They can be used to not only explain but also shape some very complex behaviors.

As for Piaget, I do agree that children do go through some biologically determined developmental stages but I think that people too often overestimate just how much of an effect biology has.
 
I hope you've taken some behavior analysis classes. I know behaviorism is not very popular in psychology right now but you'd be surprised at just how much research supports the effectiveness of behaviorist methods. It's actually a very misunderstood field, even by psychologists. Contrary to popular belief, behaviorist principles are not relegated to simple behaviors. They can be used to not only explain but also shape some very complex behaviors.

As for Piaget, I do agree that children do go through some biologically determined developmental stages but I think that people too often overestimate just how much of an effect biology has.

No, I didn't take any behaviorism classes. I was in secondary education, and was told those there was only one class at the time, and they prefer that people going into the Master's degree program, or current teachers in the elementary level program take those classes first.

I ended up in an elementary school anyway. But I do have a prospect to land a high school job hopefully next year.

I think that biology does have a fairly large impact on development, though. I wouldn't know how to measure whether you are "overestimating" the impact it may have. But certainly, I am of the strong opinion that age does matter quite a bit. Of course, individuals may vary greatly. But as an example:

Young children are obviously far more emotional than older kids and adults. This, perhaps due to the frontal lobe not fully functional yet, and the neurotransmitters going like crazy in young children. They have yet to develop fully in the area that controls emotion, and planning.

When it comes to education, certainly teaching children plays an enormous role in making the connections. Biology alone cannot get a person to understand even rudimentary arithmetic skills. However, I think that biology does play quite a large role in making it easier to acquire those skills as they get to be around the age of 6 or 7.* Around the age of 12,* for example, is when the frontal lobe naturally grows more connections and develops more fully, increasing the ability to plan out events, and to become more self-conscious about the effects their actions have on those around them.

*Individuals vary to a great degree as I have said. Some, such as those with social disorders, never fully develop the capability to stop themselves from doing something stupid that will result in negative consequences for themselves, like calling a boss a jerk for instance.

So I think it is entirely appropriate to use Piaget as a guideline of what you might expect in any child as they grow older. But certainly, one should be cautious, and take it with a grain of salt.

There have been many and great experiments done with Object Permanence, such as Bower, Baillargeon, Gratch, and etc. I have currently run out of time, so I can't get into this one atm.
 

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