Ron Paul? What are your thoughts?

leftysergeant said:
You haven't been paying attention. I have been complaining about exactly that. The government takes our money, supposedly to cover our share of the upkeep on the commons, and then pays part of the share that the corporatist slime should be paying out of our pockets.

Rich people do not deserve an additional break when people are starving.

They can start creating some living-wage jobs or pay their utility bills like the rest of us or go away and find some other market to exploit.
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Do you realize that the evil rich people you despise do pay the majority of taxes in this country?
 
respect said:
Do you realize that the evil rich people you despise do pay the majority of taxes in this country?
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How many times do you need to be told that they still are not paying enough proportionate to the problems the snivlelling little piggies create?

Even Buffet and Gates admit that.

Ammoral swine like the Kochs just shriek like little babies and wet their diapers saying that it isn't fair. Pathetic.
 
leftysergeant said:
How many times do you need to be told that they still are not paying enough proportionate to the problems the snivlelling little piggies create?

Even Buffet and Gates admit that.

Ammoral swine like the Kochs just shriek like little babies and wet their diapers saying that it isn't fair. Pathetic.
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It will never be fair to you.
 
respect said:
It will never be fair to you.
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Unfounded snark. I told you already what a fair tax base would be and you just ignored it. Friedmanism requires a lot of walking around with your fingers in your ears to avoid painful cognitive dissonance.
 
MattusMaximus said:
This sounds like lesson #1 for just about any politician.
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I agree, but I think there is a subtle difference when it is simply a matter of dodging a political issue, and denial that your beliefs are wrong. Paul clearly believes in some illogical fallacies that go beyond political doublespeak and evasion.
 
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leftysergeant said:
Unfounded snark. I told you already what a fair tax base would be and you just ignored it. Friedmanism requires a lot of walking around with your fingers in your ears to avoid painful cognitive dissonance.
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For someone who doesn't like outsourcing you sure seem to want there to be a lot more of it.

Yeah, let's have insanely uncompetitive tax rates and demand wages be way above market rates and see what happens.
 
Ron Paul is a moron who shouldn't be running anything of importance but i seriously hope he runs and actually manages to have a slight chance this time. His last election campaign was priceless. Especially funny was his outrageous political supporters who would clog up all discussion boards and websites with their fanaticism and idiocy yet never managed to have any real world presence.
 
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respect said:
For someone who doesn't like outsourcing you sure seem to want there to be a lot more of it.

Yeah, let's have insanely uncompetitive tax rates and demand wages be way above market rates and see what happens.
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You are ignoring the fact that since 1980, when some senile old twit conviced peoe that it was taxes and union wages that were keepiung them from getting rich, the jobs have been moving away even as taxes come down and real wages decline with them.

Get your fingers out of your ears. For all but the super-rich, supply-side ecconomics and favors to the investor class have worked far more and far greater curses on people than blessings. Your dire warnings of doom and gloom are at odds with reality.
 
leftysergeant said:
You are ignoring the fact that since 1980, when some senile old twit conviced peoe that it was taxes and union wages that were keepiung them from getting rich, the jobs have been moving away even as taxes come down and real wages decline with them.

Get your fingers out of your ears. For all but the super-rich, supply-side ecconomics and favors to the investor class have worked far more and far greater curses on people than blessings. Your dire warnings of doom and gloom are at odds with reality.
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Do you realize that there are more business costs than just taxes and wages?
 
respect said:
Do you realize that there are more business costs than just taxes and wages?
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And those come out of the pockets of the Walton larvae.

Building the infrastructure to support ther big boxes comes out of ours.
 
respect said:
What infrastructure that only large stores use are you talking about?
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Access roads, water and sewer hook-ups.

Look, if you do not understand the concept of "externalities," you have no business lecturing the rest of us like you were the primary font of wisdom here, nor will you be able to address the simplest arguments we could raise that show where you and friedman went down the rabbit hole.
 
leftysergeant said:
Access roads, water and sewer hook-ups.

Look, if you do not understand the concept of "externalities," you have no business lecturing the rest of us like you were the primary font of wisdom here, nor will you be able to address the simplest arguments we could raise that show where you and friedman went down the rabbit hole.
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So roads, sewers etc wouldn't be built if not for large retail stores?
 
respect said:
How often does this actually come up? That a large store is built so far out of the way that entire road and sewer systems have to be erected on its behalf?
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Four out of five MaoMarts that i have seen built in the Tacoma area.
 
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