Merged 8.8 quake in Sendai, Japan

[Molinaro]

Man, our media is having a field day with the hyperbola:



Ridiculous.

Hyperbole.

 

[BenBurch]

Man, our media is having a field day with the hyperbola:

Ridiculous.

We when the raccoons take over from us in a few million years, Earth may finally have intelligent life.

 

[Hindmost]

There may need to be new regulations for such things. Rare as they (tsunamis) are they generally try to design reactors to deal with anything that can be thrown at them. You can bet the coastal nuclear plants in California will probably have to account for this now.



My guess on the explosion is that it was one of the pressure vessels outside the reactor. It couldn't be hydrogen inside the reactor because there is no oxidation agent. And if it was hydrogen outside the reactor then they have other problems.

In a BWR, there really aren't any pressure vessels outside the reactor vessel to explode. It could be hydrogen and oxygen inside the reactor as the hydrogen does come from water...but they were most likely trying to depressurize the plant to get cooling water into the vessel using the relief valves into the supression pool...this would release hydrogen into containment. It may have exploded..but insufficient evidence right now.

I would imagine the plants in California have a flood level assumed for the plants...whether that includes a Tsunami, I am not sure. It certainly will be looked at however. As I have posted previously, a plant where I worked on the Missisippi assumed the levy would break and the river would "flood" the plant. It was built to withstand that event.

glenn

 

[gumboot]

Well, all Japanese know what 'SOS' means. Just like English adopted the word 'tsunami', Japanese have adopted certain English words like 'SOS'.

It's not English. It's origin is German but it's an international signal. Everyone uses it. It's like "MAYDAY" (French) and "PAN-PAN" (French or Greek depending which origin you believe) for voice communication.

 

[Christian Klippel]

Well we don't speak American. How else could I put it?

And to be fair, he was implying the SOS somehow meant they were signaling for someone speaking English rather than Japanese to help. Someone had to point out how incredibly bizarre that was to draw such a conclusion.

It gets even more bizarre when you consider the fact that people all over the world "talk" in morse code (CW) to each other in the HAM world, using lots of Q codes and the like, while they have no idea of the language of the other station.

Speaking of HAM, to all HAM's here, please keep the emergency frequencies 7.043 kHz and 7.075 kHz on SSB mode free. These are the actual emergency frequencies over there. Just in case, please also keep 21.360 kHz, 18.160 kHZ, 14.300 kHz (all three in USB), 7.060 kHz and 3.760 kHz (both in LSB) free. The former three are accepted emergency frequencies in HAM, the latter are the region 1 emergency frequencies. 7.030 kHz is a emergency frequency according to the Japanese band allocation plan, so keep that clear as well, please.

Unfortunately i have heard stations doing regular communications on these frequencies, thus making them unusable for the people who really need them right now.

Greetings,

Chris

 

[gumboot]

Hyperbole.

That too.

 

[BenBurch]

... A plant where i worked on the missisippi ...

qcnps?

 

[rwguinn]

It's not English. It's origin is German but it's an international signal. Everyone uses it. It's like "MAYDAY" (French) and "PAN-PAN" (French or Greek depending which origin you believe) for voice communication.

because it's simple, and very distinctive
3 short, 3 long, 3 short.
3's are international distress signals--
if lost or hurt, 3 shots in the air is the signal you use.
(DOES NOT WORK with archery!)

 

[John Jones]

He's trying to insult me personally.

Oh, I have no doubt of that.

 

[Puppycow]

That's good. I haven't seen these mentioned in our TV coverage.

I reckon if the death toll from this doesn't get into five figures, there's no praise high enough for the systems in place.

Rolfe.

Honestly, I don't know whether they had any of those in the cities affected. That particular one is apparently in Shizuoka, which is south of Tokyo.

Also, many large ships were carried inland with the tsunami. I wonder if that platform would have been high enough to avoid the highest waves. And if a ship were to hit it, it would be bad.

 

[Belz...]

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Ego-stroking mode.

Thousands upon thousands of people are in distress RIGHT NOW.

Yes, and Japanese people are helping them. You're not.

Tell you what, I'll leave you guys to talk about beer and molasses in this thread, mocking their misery.

As opposed to you, mocking their entire culture ?

 

[MattusMaximus]

Man, our media is having a field day with the hyperbola:

Ridiculous.

Wow, that sort of crap is just reprehensible.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Man, our media is having a field day with the hyperbola:



Ridiculous.

That is one stupid comment. It goes along with the fact so many people don't understand nuclear plants have nothing in common with nuclear bombs except some of the materials in some plants.

 

[Belz...]

Wow, that sort of crap is just reprehensible.

I genuinely don't understand that kind of stuff.

When disasters like this and 9/11 happen, I'm always at a loss of words, and I feel bad for a while. How other people could not only not care but use these events to boost ratings or profits is beyond me, and get me more than a little angry.

 

[Travis]

Man, our media is having a field day with the hyperbola:



Ridiculous.

Yeah.....nuclear reactors don't work that way.

 

[alfaniner]

Listening to CNN right now, it's clear the newscasters don't have a clue whet they are talking about.

I got really pissed off when it was obvious that Wolf Blitzer was trying to get the ambassador to say that a meltdown was at least "possible".

Plus the reports of "radiation 1000 times the normal level." Fine, but in all those reports, they never once said what a dangerous level was.

And the BREAKING NEWS banner that is plastered across a large part of the screen. I've got "news" for you. It's only "breaking" if it hasn't been reported yet. Showing clips that have been repeated ad infinitum since yesterday is not new.

 

[I Ratant]

I got really pissed off when it was obvious that Wolf Blitzer was trying to get the ambassador to say that a meltdown was at least "possible".

Plus the reports of "radiation 1000 times the normal level." Fine, but in all those reports, they never once said what a dangerous level was.

And the BREAKING NEWS banner that is plastered across a large part of the screen. I've got "news" for you. It's only "breaking" if it hasn't been reported yet. Showing clips that have been repeated ad infinitum since yesterday is not new.

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No matter the oldness of the news, ABC out here reports it in the present tense.

 

[gumboot]

I genuinely don't understand that kind of stuff

To be fair our media is probably more susceptible to it. Our country is rabidly anti-Nuclear. Our Anti-Nuclear stance and the resulting stand-off with the USA is something a lot of Kiwis see as one of our proudest moments. It's become something of an integral part of our cultural identity.

Anything even remotely bad for Nuclear anything is going to be eagerly lapped up by the ignorant brain-washed masses.

 

[gumboot]

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No matter the oldness of the news, ABC out here reports it in the present tense.

Our media do the opposite and report all news in past tense, even if it's a current breaking event. And they'll always use something like "Friday 11th March" never "today". It can be really weird.

As early as March 1, the Canterbury Quake was being referred to as "last month's quake".

 

[Belz...]

To be fair our media is probably more susceptible to it. Our country is rabidly anti-Nuclear. Our Anti-Nuclear stance and the resulting stand-off with the USA is something a lot of Kiwis see as one of our proudest moments. It's become something of an integral part of our cultural identity.

Anything even remotely bad for Nuclear anything is going to be eagerly lapped up by the ignorant brain-washed masses.

Yeah, same thing here in Canada.