Muslim researcher explains how 9/11 was made

[EventHorizon]

Here is the official explanation, in my post nr 1061 (heavy trafic, just two small words and credulous people believe them) : http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6956694&postcount=1061

For all others: several hours of delays are possible, cancellation is also possible, the champion retard happened this year in winter, snow and glacial wether : Every body installed in the plane, it was too late, they had to go to remove glace, ... after that by the delay, the pilots refused to take off, and everybody get out of the plane. But in all such delays, there is a reason.

There is no reason to make waiting a ready aircraft during 41 minutes without any explanation. And the official argument of “heavy traffic” was for take offs only. In the movie “UA93”, they dare to show several planes on the strip and they tell "you are number 15" at around 8:10. You can look, 15 is the total number of planes between 8:10 and 8:40. That means they put that READY plane after all flights which are after it.

There is no explanation for that delay. UA93 was only made waiting there, just to avoid it fly too much westward and permit the team to manage it.

Instead of criticizing me, you should ask for evidence from the government and push for a new independent investigation. If you do not make that, you are under huge danger and you make whole world in danger of such attacks repeat. They succeeded one huge attack, they’ll do other attacks.

More argument from personal incredulity from you. Your ENTIRE argument since post one is an argument from personal incredulity. Now you're citing a movie as evidence. Brilliant. Argumentum ad Hollywoodum.

So you have a chart of takeoff times. That proves what exactly? Do you also have a chart of all of the air traffic that day? I assume you've never been on an airplane before, correct? Because only someone who has never flown before would be shocked at a 41 minute delay.

mehmetin:

Let me relate a flight I had. I was delayed 35 minutes taking off from Pittsburgh to Boston (due to weather). I arrived in Boston 10 minutes early. Was I in a "time warp"?

It's just a jump to the left...

 

[WildCat]

Is my answer enough coherent?

Everything you have posted is pure unsupported speculative nonsense.

 

[WildCat]

mehmetin:

Let me relate a flight I had. I was delayed 35 minutes taking off from Pittsburgh to Boston (due to weather). I arrived in Boston 10 minutes early. Was I in a "time warp"?

Not just a time warp, a Zionist Jew time warp!

 

[dafydd]

Here is the official explanation, in my post nr 1061 (heavy trafic, just two small words and credulous people believe them) : http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6956694&postcount=1061

For all others: several hours of delays are possible, cancellation is also possible, the champion retard happened this year in winter, snow and glacial wether : Every body installed in the plane, it was too late, they had to go to remove glace, ... after that by the delay, the pilots refused to take off, and everybody get out of the plane. But in all such delays, there is a reason.

There is no reason to make waiting a ready aircraft during 41 minutes without any explanation. And the official argument of “heavy traffic” was for take offs only. In the movie “UA93”, they dare to show several planes on the strip and they tell "you are number 15" at around 8:10. You can look, 15 is the total number of planes between 8:10 and 8:40. That means they put that READY plane after all flights which are after it.

There is no explanation for that delay. UA93 was only made waiting there, just to avoid it fly too much westward and permit the team to manage it.

Instead of criticizing me, you should ask for evidence from the government and push for a new independent investigation. If you do not make that, you are under huge danger and you make whole world in danger of such attacks repeat. They succeeded one huge attack, they’ll do other attacks.

Maybe you could try to convince your more violent Muslim brothers to abandon violence. That would do more to prevent attacks than posting crap on internet sites.

 

[Craig4]

Welcome back John, as usual you questions are honest and polite. You deserve good and sincere answers.

1- No I only looked for take offs. But Newark airport has two parallel take off/landing runways. I should check the landings also. Good idea. But I do not believe that will change anything.

2- I do not believe I made a mistake. My work explains all hidden evidence of the official story. But all what I tell is consistent with the known strong evidence. Sure, there is some classified evidence. There are some unknown aspects in my work. But the main guideline, the main subjects are fully known and they were never debunked.

In other words, we must consider my work as “the basis for a complete investigation to be made by an independent justice court in which Muslims are also involved”. Such investigation will modify some aspects of my work, but the main subjects are 100% defined:
1- The planes were controlled by one central team using high-tech.
2- The plane that hit the Pentagon was not a B757.
3- The twin towers were demolished by explosives.

In these points, I am definitely NOT wrong, and USA government should restudy the subject.

If USA government fully opens all evidence, let Muslim investigators (selected by world Muslim community) check all evidence, and the conclusion debunks my work, I promise to apologies.

What would make a Muslim superior to anyone else? I'm with Ataturk, Islam is the twisted theology of a corrupt Bedouin.

Muslims committed these mass murders. It's intellectually cowardly to manufacture a fairy story to get past this obvious truth.

If it helps any I think Christianity is a death cult and Judaism is just plain weird.

 

[twinstead]

I don't think mehmetin realizes that many of us on this forum look at Christianity and Judaism with the same disdain we look at Islam. They're all just fairy tales, albeit fairy tales that some people desperately need to believe in.

We are equal opportunity skeptics

 

[Sideroxylon]

Instead of criticizing me, you should ask for evidence from the government and push for a new independent investigation. If you do not make that, you are under huge danger and you make whole world in danger of such attacks repeat. They succeeded one huge attack, they’ll do other attacks.

If you knew you had a well reasoned case or if you cared about establishing one, you would welcome criticism not call for it to cease. I understand you would like to publish this idea. Surely criticism would help you strengthen your idea if it had merit, or protect your professional reputation by preventing you from attempting to publish a load of trash.

You have given me no reason whatsoever to doubt the "official story". Most recently I have seen a lot of argument from incredulity - "I cant understand how a plane could have been delayed so long in the course of normal operations, therefore it wasn't due to normal operations".

And I am still no wiser about what you see in the times of events as they unfolded.

 

[Craig4]

"I cant understand how a plane could have been delayed so long in the course of normal operations, therefore it wasn't due to normal operations".

He should have joined me for my ground delay over the weekend. It turned a 10 hour flight into almost 13 hours in the tube.

 

[George 152]

There is no reason to make waiting a ready aircraft during 41 minutes without any explanation. And the official argument of “heavy traffic” was for take offs only. In the movie “UA93”, they dare to show several planes on the strip and they tell "you are number 15" at around 8:10. You can look, 15 is the total number of planes between 8:10 and 8:40. That means they put that READY plane after all flights which are after it.

There is no explanation for that delay. UA93 was only made waiting there, just to avoid it fly too much westward and permit the team to manage it.

Well, sorry to burst the bubble but all of us in here who have been at the sharp end of an aircraft have had to 'wait in line' to
a) Takeoff
b) Enter 'controlled airspace'
c) Land.
My best was Number 3 to heavies.
Took 10 minutes and I was holding outside the Fire Station..
You are not very knowledgeable about things aviation are you

 

[twinstead]

Can you imagine being a frequent flier and convinced any delay was a conspiracy? What a horrible experience flying would be.

 

[Sideroxylon]

He should have joined me for my ground delay over the weekend. It turned a 10 hour flight into almost 13 hours in the tube.

It might be about time for our Muslim researcher to earn his "research" title by going and doing a bit of research into airport operations.

 

[Sunstealer]

1- The planes were controlled by one central team using high-tech.
2- The plane that hit the Pentagon was not a B757.
3- The twin towers were demolished by explosives.[/B]

In these points, I am definitely NOT wrong, and USA government should restudy the subject.

1. You've shown no compelling evidence that 1 team controlled the flights via Tomahawk cruise missile technology. Infact you have been shown why this is not possible. You ignored it.

2. You have been shown the FDR, RADAR, DNA, data and wreckage of identifiable B757 parts. You ignored it.

3. You have not shown how this is possible. Explosives by definition go BANG!! The amount of explosives required to do what you want them to do would have shattered windows for hundreds of meters around and deafened people. You have been shown that it's not possible. You have ignored this.

You only hear what you want to hear, so nothing is going to convince you. It's a waste of everyone's time for you and us to post here. Yes some individuals calling themselves Muslims did and continue to do some very unpleasant things. Get over it.

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

that's a great question. what's YOUR answer?

Parky, my answer would be: "The only reason why we pay attention to radical muslims (like Meh) is because an idiot like that can bring joy to the world through laughter."

 

[beachnut]

... There is no explanation for that delay. UA93 was only made waiting there, just to avoid it fly too much westward and permit the team to manage it.

Instead of criticizing me, you should ask for evidence from the government and push for a new independent investigation. If you do not make that, you are under huge danger and you make whole world in danger of such attacks repeat. They succeeded one huge attack, they’ll do other attacks.

Too late, no more attacks by taking over the cockpit, the passengers will kill you.
We already investigated 911, you are using what liars, and frauds say as your evidence.

The delay would hurt 93 chance to be a surprise. So your logic is Back-Wards! Wait; you have a delusion of remote control. Oops, during the real investigation into 911, we have the FDR from 93. The FDR shows 93 was hand flown by terrorists alive until impact in Pa. You can't get much right on 911, so out of hate you blame the USA, and Jews instead of 19 idiots, who turned out to be not good Muslims.

 

[Dog Town]

I don't think mehmetin realizes that many of us on this forum look at Christianity and Judaism with the same disdain we look at Islam. They're all just fairy tales, albeit fairy tales that some people desperately need to believe in.

We are equal opportunity skeptics

A'men bruthur!

 

[Dog Town]

It might be about time for our Muslim researcher to earn his "research" title by going and doing a bit of research into airport operations.

Sadly, as he said. "It won't matter."
I may be paraphrasing.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

You really need to research how this works. They do not take-off and land at the same time. Can you guess why? Do you know what "minimum separation" means?

I guess he has never had to "go around"..........interesting experience.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

1- No I only looked for take offs. But Newark airport has two parallel take off/landing runways. I should check the landings also. Good idea. But I do not believe that will change anything.

Belief is not proof. How you could have missed something so basic.......

2- I do not believe I made a mistake. My work explains all hidden evidence of the official story. But all what I tell is consistent with the known strong evidence. Sure, there is some classified evidence. There are some unknown aspects in my work. But the main guideline, the main subjects are fully known and they were never debunked.

What hidden evidence? the flight times have never been a secret. You are simply making patterns where none exist. The fools that find hidden codes in the bible do the same thing...........

In other words, we must consider my work as “the basis for a complete investigation to be made by an independent justice court in which Muslims are also involved”. Such investigation will modify some aspects of my work, but the main subjects are 100% defined:
1- The planes were controlled by one central team using high-tech.
2- The plane that hit the Pentagon was not a B757.
3- The twin towers were demolished by explosives.

You have not proved or even shown a prima facie case for any of the above.

In these points, I am definitely NOT wrong, and USA government should restudy the subject.

LOL and who is going to pay for that. And why would you beleive them now when you don't believe them then?

If USA government fully opens all evidence, let Muslim investigators (selected by world Muslim community) check all evidence, and the conclusion debunks my work, I promise to apologies.

What evidence do you imagine is not open and why would you (or us) assume investigators from the Muslim community would be independent?
Given that we are at war in two Muslim dominated countries might that make independence difficult. Would it not be better to have say Baddhist or shinto or even atheist investigator to ensure no bias. Perhaps we could ask the swiss if they have any Buddhist structural, Aerospace and explosive forensic people

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Your alternative explanation, that the flight was held back due to other reasons than flight traffic considerations logically implies that someone at the airport who is in charge of lining up planes for take-off ("the tower") must be involved in the plot, or else that person would find it suspicious before or after the terror attacks that a plane delayed itself even though traffic was clear.

Definitely before. There would almost certainly be an attempt by the tower to communicate with a plane that seemed to have just parked itself on the tarmac after leaving the gate and was holding up a number of other flights in the process.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

There is no explanation for that delay. UA93 was only made waiting there, just to avoid it fly too much westward and permit the team to manage it

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Have you EVER flown anywhere???? Heavy traffic is very very common and a delay of 41 minutes commonplace. Synchronizing the attacks would have been very difficult so they simply did not try. They were in succession exactly as one could expect them to be. You are trying to make a pattern from a tiny data set and reading all sorts of things from it with have no basis in reason.

Instead of criticizing me, you should ask for evidence from the government and push for a new independent investigation. If you do not make that, you are under huge danger and you make whole world in danger of such attacks repeat. They succeeded one huge attack, they’ll do other attacks.

We are in danger of another attack.....but from the Jihadists not the NWO, Illuminati, Opus Dei, Alien Lizard shapeshifters or whomever you imagine was behind 911.