Muslim researcher explains how 9/11 was made

EventHorizon said:
We're talking about some of the busiest airspace on the planet and you expect no delays? What fantasy world do you live in?
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I'm willing to bet that luggage never gets lost in mehmetin's world, either.

I get this weird feeling that mehmetin believes that only Jews—and, by extension, anything touched by Jews—bear the mark of imperfection. Everything else is perfect in every way.
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
I'm willing to bet that luggage never gets lost in mehmetin's world, either.

I get this weird feeling that mehmetin believes that only Jews—and, by extension, anything touched by Jews—bear the mark of imperfection. Everything else is perfect in every way.
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I disagree.
mehmetin will quickly agree that Jews are perfectly capable of perfectly evil deeds.
;)
 
9/11 Chewy Defense said:
Can anyone tell me why we're paying attention to some radical muslim from a 3rd world country?

:confused:
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In all fairness Turkey is an industrialized nation with a secular democratic process and robust economy. It enjoys a high standard of living compared to it's neighbors and well developed infrastructure. It hosts its on stock exchange and Turkey based index funds enjoyed record growth last year. Turkey compares favorably with several EU member states economically.

Of course our Turkish friend here is not representative of most Turks who are by and large very secular.
 
mehmetin said:
Flight 93 was delayed to fit such succession. It get out from the gate at 8:00, it was planned to take off at 8:01; getting into the piste, let's say it could take off at 8:10. It waited up to 8:42 before take off! Why? The official LIE is "heavy trafic". That is full lie, the number of flights which took off from Newark does not justify such claim. Here is the flights which took off from Newark on the morning of 9/11/2001.


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That means, the officials delayed flight UA93 to avoit it go too much westward before the team be able to control it and make it return back toward white house. That's why it took off only 4 minutes before the frist impact; the last time to take off, after the first impact nothing will be normal, so it may not take off.

For everybody here, I do not anwser to insult and baseless opinions. (Your "theory" is junk.) is a baseless opinon.
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Why do you not also include landings? hard to use a runway to take off that has a 747 landing on it :) If at least you offer a theory please don't leave obvious gaps in it......you will look a little less foolish
 
=mehmetin;6956760]Such delay of 41 minutes is not a logical explanation! the aircraft left the gate 1 minute before take off time; it could get about 10 minutes delay, but not 41minutes, definitely NOT. Only credulous people can believe such official lies.
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LOL you have not flown much have you?. Airline on-time performance in the US are measured by when they leave the gate not when they actually take off so its quite normal to leave the gate even when they know that it will be a long wait to take off. 41 minutes is nothing special at all.....
 
JohnG said:
mehmetin, a few questions for you:

1. Did you forget to factor in landings and how they might affect takeoffs?

2. If you wrote what you thought was a nonfiction book but it was actually significantly flawed in terms of both the basic premise and the supporting evidence, would you
A. Have the objectivity and intelligence to realize your mistake?
B. The courage to publicly admit it?
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Welcome back John, as usual you questions are honest and polite. You deserve good and sincere answers.

1- No I only looked for take offs. But Newark airport has two parallel take off/landing runways. I should check the landings also. Good idea. But I do not believe that will change anything.

2- I do not believe I made a mistake. My work explains all hidden evidence of the official story. But all what I tell is consistent with the known strong evidence. Sure, there is some classified evidence. There are some unknown aspects in my work. But the main guideline, the main subjects are fully known and they were never debunked.

In other words, we must consider my work as “the basis for a complete investigation to be made by an independent justice court in which Muslims are also involved”. Such investigation will modify some aspects of my work, but the main subjects are 100% defined:
1- The planes were controlled by one central team using high-tech.
2- The plane that hit the Pentagon was not a B757.
3- The twin towers were demolished by explosives.

In these points, I am definitely NOT wrong, and USA government should restudy the subject.

If USA government fully opens all evidence, let Muslim investigators (selected by world Muslim community) check all evidence, and the conclusion debunks my work, I promise to apologies.
 
mehmetin said:
1- No I only looked for take offs. But Newark airport has two parallel take off/landing runways. I should check the landings also. Good idea. But I do not believe that will change anything.
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You really need to research how this works. They do not take-off and land at the same time. Can you guess why? Do you know what "minimum separation" means?
 
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Dog Town said:
Good luck with that rationality thing! :rolleyes: If you even get a coherent response from Meh...All you can hope for is a Stundie win!
Happy hunting.
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Is my answer enough coherent?

I read your post after have posted my message!

But, are you as coherent as me?
 
Reptitious isn't coherence.
Your posts have little substance, being just repostings of very bad ideas about a fairly simple situation, which you have complicated due to your intolerances and ignorance of the situation, beyond comprehension.
 
Sideroxylon said:
Planes are delayed all the time. What is the official reason for the delay (as a thorough researcher you would know this) and what is wrong with the explanation?
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Here is the official explanation, in my post nr 1061 (heavy trafic, just two small words and credulous people believe them) : http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6956694&postcount=1061

For all others: several hours of delays are possible, cancellation is also possible, the champion retard happened this year in winter, snow and glacial wether : Every body installed in the plane, it was too late, they had to go to remove glace, ... after that by the delay, the pilots refused to take off, and everybody get out of the plane. But in all such delays, there is a reason.

There is no reason to make waiting a ready aircraft during 41 minutes without any explanation. And the official argument of “heavy traffic” was for take offs only. In the movie “UA93”, they dare to show several planes on the strip and they tell "you are number 15" at around 8:10. You can look, 15 is the total number of planes between 8:10 and 8:40. That means they put that READY plane after all flights which are after it.

There is no explanation for that delay. UA93 was only made waiting there, just to avoid it fly too much westward and permit the team to manage it.

Instead of criticizing me, you should ask for evidence from the government and push for a new independent investigation. If you do not make that, you are under huge danger and you make whole world in danger of such attacks repeat. They succeeded one huge attack, they’ll do other attacks.
 
mehmetin said:
...the main subjects are 100% defined:
1- The planes were controlled by one central team using high-tech.
2- The plane that hit the Pentagon was not a B757.
3- The twin towers were demolished by explosives.

In these points, I am definitely NOT wrong, and USA government should restudy the subject...
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mehmetin,

do you have logical explanations for the following?

1- What advantage would one central team have over four autonomous teams? Both can get the job done 75%. One team is only more complicated, with all that high-tech stuff
2- What purpose is served by faking the type of the plane? What advantage does this more complicated plot have over actually using a 757, or using a different plane type but not covering it up?
3- What purpose is served, and which advantage is gained, by attacking each of the twin towers twice (with planes and with explosives)?

All 3 of your main points only add complexity to the plot, without improving on the terror impact. More complexity means more people involved, more possible mistakes to be made, more possibilities for failure, more risk of getting caught before or after the attacks.

Why, in short, go with a very complex plan (explosives and planes, exchange planes, develop and install brand-new high tech, etc.) when a very simple plan (hijack planes, crash) can be very effective, too?
 
mehmetin said:
Instead of criticizing me, you should ask for evidence from the government and push for a new independent investigation. If you do not make that, you are under huge danger and you make whole world in danger of such attacks repeat. They succeeded one huge attack, they’ll do other attacks.
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There's no reason. Long distance regular scheduled flights would be delayed first because they can make up the time. You don't understand congested air-space, and frankly I don't think you care.

Consider this: UA 93 most likely would have arrived in LA "on-time". (had not been for the terrorists)
 
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mehmetin said:
Here is the official explanation, in my post nr 1061 (heavy trafic, just two small words and credulous people believe them) : http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6956694&postcount=1061
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This explanation is credible, because it is possible without any further ado,m and is known to happen hundreds of times every day all around the world.

Your alternative explanation, that the flight was held back due to other reasons than flight traffic considerations logically implies that someone at the airport who is in charge of lining up planes for take-off ("the tower") must be involved in the plot, or else that person would find it suspicious before or after the terror attacks that a plane delayed itself even though traffic was clear.

You don't seem to understand that pilots and airlines are not free to taxi around, stop on taxiways, and take off whenever they please. They are in constant contact with the tower, and their scheduling is coordinated with several crews, from fuel truck to catering to maintenance to luggage loaders. Any of those groups could become suspicious and blow the whole plot if you delay your plane due any other reason than normal airport procedures.


ETA: Add "airport scheduling procedures" to the long list of relevant things mehmetin does not understand.
 
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mehmetin:

Let me relate a flight I had. I was delayed 35 minutes taking off from Pittsburgh to Boston (due to weather). I arrived in Boston 10 minutes early. Was I in a "time warp"?
 
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