Scientology Price List 2011

[P.J. Denyer]

But can you put a price on passing a road accident and 'knowing you're the only person who can really help'?

Instead in my stupid country we waste money on firemen and paramedics for that sort of situation. Foolish us.

 

[Oliver]

It's not unlikely that the CoS has reported the site for viruses, thus you get a warning until it's been checked out.

That's a possibility, indeed - even if my guess is that the alarm wasn't related to the link in the first place, given the lack of others getting the same alert.

I had to ask, didn't I?

But yes, I see that a facility like that would require several different levels of lounges. After all, if you burned so many more millions than someone else you can hardly be expected to sit and wait with the cheapskates to be given your super powers, right?

Quite frankly, I have no idea how the concept and rundowns are supposed to work, if the building ever will be completed, that is.

I seriously wonder if it's even in the interest of Scientology to complete it - given the fact that people getting those superpower rundowns will be pretty pissed* [*to put it mildly] as soon they realize that crap does not work.

Also, it looks as if the most prominent members don't seem to care about sooper-dooper-doonating, according to this:
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/threads/142-million-plus-given-to-super-power-scam.53898/

 

[hgc]

According to the scary Wikipedia article:

According to the Church of Scientology, the building will contain specially developed equipment which "expand on technology developed by NASA to train astronauts". [SNIP] These machines will include such things as an antigravity simulator, a gyroscope-like apparatus that spins a person around while blindfolded to improve perception of compass direction, and a video screen that moves forward and backward while flashing images to hone a viewer's ability to identify subliminal messages.[7] [SNIP]

Great. Sounds like a good novelty ride for an amusement park. Again, how much do you have to pay to ride the big gyroscope? A fool and his money...

Personally, I like creaky, wooden roller coasters, and I can get my fix at Coney Island.

 

[aggle-rithm]

Increasing body weight is a super power? Someone get me Tom Cruise on the phone, I must be like Superman to him.

If you worked for the Sea Org, at $40 a week, then it would indeed require super powers to gain weight.

 

[Wildy]

Do you think the reason Scientologists don't like talking about their beliefs is because they don't want to give away for free something that they paid thousands for?

 

[Oliver]

Do you think the reason Scientologists don't like talking about their beliefs is because they don't want to give away for free something that they paid thousands for?

On top of that there seem to be several other reasons as to why they don't give away their intergalactic soap opera beliefs.

1. According to sources like this, you don't officially learn about it until you reach certain levels within the church. [Which means that a random low-level Scientologist on the street probably might have no idea what you're talking about]

2. According to WP: The Church of Scientology forbade individuals from reading of the OT III Xenu cosmogony without first having taken prerequisite courses.[35] Scientologists warn that reading the Xenu story without proper authorization could cause pneumonia.[35][36]

3. Scientology acknowledges that they're being mocked for the Sci-Fi stuff, therefore they don't talk about it [maybe it's a church policy as well]:

Wikipedia: The Church of Scientology has objected to the Xenu story being used to paint Scientology as a mere science fiction fantasy[38] (see Space opera in Scientology doctrine). Hubbard's statements concerning the R6 implant have been a source of contention. Critics and some Christians state that Hubbard's statements regarding R6 prove that Scientology doctrine is incompatible with Christianity,[39][40]

4. And then there are Scientologists who just don't understand the story of "Xenu and friends":

He entered a study room, where he finally got to examine the secret document—a couple of pages, in Hubbard’s bold scrawl. After a few minutes, he returned to the supervisor.

“I don’t understand,” Haggis said.

“Do you know the words?” the supervisor asked.

“I know the words, I just don’t understand.”

“Go back and read it again,” the supervisor suggested.

Haggis did so. In a moment, he returned. “Is this a metaphor?” he asked the supervisor.

“No,” the supervisor responded. “It is what it is. Do the actions that are required.”

Maybe it’s an insanity test, Haggis thought—if you believe it, you’re automatically kicked out. “I sat with that for a while,” he says. But when he read it again he decided, “This is madness.”

Source: Paul Haggis vs. the Church of Scientology

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[Oliver]

Here are some additional thoughts about the reasons for keeping silent:

But the real story is that Scientology does not want their followers to know what's in store for them: they forbid everybody to read this material until they've done lots of courses, stating that it would kill those who are not yet ready for it; but more probably because people may stop believing Scientology once they've read this lousy sf stuff. And of course Scientology asks their followers massive amounts of money for the 'privilege' of reading this.

Source: http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/fishman/home.html

 

[Oliver]

Great. Sounds like a good novelty ride for an amusement park. Again, how much do you have to pay to ride the big gyroscope? A fool and his money....

Yep, it will be pretty interesting to read how much it will cost to use these devices ... while - at the same time - reading about all those people who tried it leaving the church.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

On top of that there seem to be several other reasons as to why they don't give away their intergalactic soap opera beliefs.

1. According to sources like this, you don't officially learn about it until you reach certain levels within the church. [Which means that a random low-level Scientologist on the street probably might have no idea what you're talking about]

2. According to WP: The Church of Scientology forbade individuals from reading of the OT III Xenu cosmogony without first having taken prerequisite courses.[35] Scientologists warn that reading the Xenu story without proper authorization could cause pneumonia.[35][36]

3. Scientology acknowledges that they're being mocked for the Sci-Fi stuff, therefore they don't talk about it [maybe it's a church policy as well]:

Wikipedia: The Church of Scientology has objected to the Xenu story being used to paint Scientology as a mere science fiction fantasy[38] (see Space opera in Scientology doctrine). Hubbard's statements concerning the R6 implant have been a source of contention. Critics and some Christians state that Hubbard's statements regarding R6 prove that Scientology doctrine is incompatible with Christianity,[39][40]

4. And then there are Scientologists who just don't understand the story of "Xenu and friends":

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5. Plus it it rumoured that some sources are reputed to allege that the Church (spit) will use the information acquired during auditing to convince you not to leave or denounce the Church (spit). YMMV

 

[dudalb]

I suspect that much of Scientology works of the "emperor's new clothes principle: After spending all these bucks, nobody wants to admit it didn't work.

I am reminded of one of the Duke and the Dauphin's scams in "Huckleberry Finn", where the scam is based on the idea that people do not want to admit in public they have been had.

 

[Oliver]

5. Plus it it rumoured that some sources are reputed to allege that the Church (spit) will use the information acquired during auditing to convince you not to leave or denounce the Church (spit). YMMV

As far I remember it's not just a rumor but former high ranking ex-Scientologists actually confirmed that behavior. Amy Scobee is such a case, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Scobee

 

[talkie toaster]

Not sure of the other powers but I can tell you the "Invisibility" super power was a bit of a rip off as I found to my detriment when arrested, butt naked, in the Ladies changing room at my local swimming pool.......

......wish I'd chosen a warmer day to go.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

As far I remember it's not just a rumor but former high ranking ex-Scientologists actually confirmed that behavior. Amy Scobee is such a case, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Scobee

By gosh! I do believe you are correct!!

 

[Oliver]

......wish I'd chosen a warmer day to go.

Well, I guess that's what the OT timetravel superpower is all about ...

Also, I wonder how they will be able to simulate antigravity in their SuperPowerBuilding. That by itself sounds as absurd as the Nazi base on the moon.

 

[hgc]

Not sure of the other powers but I can tell you the "Invisibility" super power was a bit of a rip off as I found to my detriment when arrested, butt naked, in the Ladies changing room at my local swimming pool.......

......wish I'd chosen a warmer day to go.

It doesn't make your clothes invisible? Jeesh. It's like the gyroscope all over again. Cheap stunt.

 

[Rasmus]

Well, I guess that's what the OT timetravel superpower is all about ...

Also, I wonder how they will be able to simulate antigravity in their SuperPowerBuilding. That by itself sounds as absurd as the Nazi base on the moon. http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/111074527eb9578326.gif

oh, that's simple: They just have to push people of the top of the building ...

 

[Rincewind]

That's a good question - and if the Wikipedia article is correct about Scientology beliefs, the superpowers are...

• 1 Conquering MEST
• 2 Dianetics and Clearing
• 3 Exteriorization of energy
• 4 Spiritual immortality
• 5 Enhanced health and lifespan
• 6 Increasing body weight
• 7 Touch assists
• 8 Theta perceptics
• 9 Telepathy and remote viewing
• 10 Psychokinesis
• 11 Time travel

Did I miss something, or is this a closing down sale?

Please can I order the telepathy, time travel and two enhanced health? (one for me, and the other's going to be a Christmas present)

I'm quite prepared to pay it back over a billion years, as well...

 

[Rasmus]

Did I miss something, or is this a closing down sale?

Please can I order the telepathy, time travel and two enhanced health? (one for me, and the other's going to be a Christmas present)

I'm quite prepared to pay it back over a billion years, as well...

No need to wait - with time travell it should be fairly easy to make enough money to be able to afford paying it back yesterday.

In fact: If you're not rich enough now it probably will not be going to have worked out.

 

[Oliver]

oh, that's simple: They just have to push people of the top of the building ...

Mhmm, that does not sound like a hard task then, given the accounts that something seemingly about Scientology pushes people off the top all the time, so to speak.

No need to wait - with time travell it should be fairly easy to make enough money to be able to afford paying it back yesterday.

In fact: If you're not rich enough now it probably will not be going to have worked out.

Yeah, the same thought crossed my mind concerning all the trouble for the "church" that easily could've been avoided by "time traveling operating thetans".

 

[tsig]

Mhmm, that does not sound like a hard task then, given the accounts that something seemingly about Scientology pushes people off the top all the time, so to speak.









Yeah, the same thought crossed my mind concerning all the trouble for the "church" that easily could've been avoided by "time traveling operating thetans".

Of course they have them that's who went back and trained Hubbard.

And no they wouldn't change anything to avoid the problems because they were opportunities for personal and organizational growth.