Muslim researcher explains how 9/11 was made

[DGM]

You can look it yourself. The maintenance data of the planes used in 9/11 are deleted from international aircraft database.

This would be a point if you showed that ANY aircrafts maintenance data was on the internet. Bet you won't.

 

[Sideroxylon]

Evet canım!

I showed you how big are the vertical propagation of the waves of GSM antennas. They are not propagated at all. In the best case, we have only 10° upper the horizontal line. That means no vertical propagation is possible. That means no cellular phone calls are possible from 35000ft kind altitude. So, all cellular phone calls are FAKE.

At least one is well known and this is enough to tell all phone calls are faked. Actually to make such attacks, one can only show the phone calls as evidence. As those are fake, that means the official story has no evidence to back it up.

I am unqualified to evaluate your claim. In such situations I like to come to a conclusion based on expert consensus and, to a lesser degree, the way a debate is played out. Publish it in a peer reviewed journal. (I can hear the conspiracy excuses already)

One thing that does come to mind is that if what you say is true it would have been readily apparent to a great many people involved with the design, maintenance and administration of the network in question. So are they all in on the plot?

 

[mehmetin]

Why wasn't the wpork being carried out seen by the 'real' maintenance crew?

There was no scheduled maintenance between the installation of the equipments and the attacks.

What 'international databases' do you mean?

All civil aircrafts have regular maintenance operations and all maintenance operations are recorded in an international database. On basis of the tail number, professionals can check the maintenance of the planes and can find the last maintenance operations. The data about the planes used in 9/11 is deleted.

What about he paper records of the airline of the airline and any of the companies involved?

What do you mean? I did not understand.

Work carried out on airliners is very strictly documented and controlled. There are reams of forms and paperwork.

The installation of these equipments is not a regular maintenance work. It’s a secret maintenance work which is not listed in such papers. Or at least it was written as other kind of work.

 

[Sideroxylon]

You can look it yourself. The maintenance data of the planes used in 9/11 are deleted from international aircraft database.

Hocam, I would have thought a researcher like yourself would have such support at hand. I am disappointed.

 

[mehmetin]

So then you can produce parts, records or witnesses that these systems were placed on the planes? Please do share.

Such evidence should be searched by a justice investigation. Not an independent people like me. My work stops when I proved that such work is possible.

If you want more evidence, start a justice investigation, and then I am ready to search the evidence that supports it.

 

[mehmetin]

Mehmetin, I have been lazy until now but have started reading through this thread. You have well and truly been pantsed, haven't you.

I do not understand what you mean. Please use precise and usual words. English is not my mother tongue.

 

[mehmetin]

This would be a point if you showed that ANY aircrafts maintenance data was on the internet. Bet you won't.

The database is not on the internet. Only professionals can access to it. But I know from stong information, data is deleted.

 

[mehmetin]

I am unqualified to evaluate your claim. In such situations I like to come to a conclusion based on expert consensus and, to a lesser degree, the way a debate is played out. Publish it in a peer reviewed journal. (I can hear the conspiracy excuses already)

One thing that does come to mind is that if what you say is true it would have been readily apparent to a great many people involved with the design, maintenance and administration of the network in question. So are they all in on the plot?

They are not in the plot. But most of the professionals in that area do not need to know such details. Only antenna producer engineers should be aware of that, plus some initial network designers, some standards writers, ... All those people are not obliged to investigate nor to speak out about 9/11.

Just have a look to some antenna specifications and you'll find that they produce horizontally guided waves.

 

[Sideroxylon]

I do not understand what you mean. Please use precise and usual words. English is not my mother tongue.

Sorry - slipping into my native tongue. I mean your arguments have been soundly defeated.

 

[mehmetin]

Hocam, I would have thought a researcher like yourself would have such support at hand. I am disappointed.

No hocam, no independent indivisuals can access to whole data in the world. I am not a superhuman; I am only a human, a simple one.

 

[Sideroxylon]

The database is not on the internet. Only professionals can access to it. But I know from stong information, data is deleted.

Hocam, so share the "strong information" - a citation, please.

 

[carlitos]

Evet canım!

I showed you how big are the vertical propagation of the waves of GSM antennas. They are not propagated at all. In the best case, we have only 10° upper the horizontal line. That means no vertical propagation is possible. That means no cellular phone calls are possible from 35000ft kind altitude. So, all cellular phone calls are FAKE.

At least one is well known and this is enough to tell all phone calls are faked. Actually to make such attacks, one can only show the phone calls as evidence. As those are fake, that means the official story has no evidence to back it up.

1 - You are wrong about the cell phones. Again, many of us actually made and received calls at altitude back in those days. You are wrong.

2 - Most of the calls were made from seat back phones. Not mobile phones. How did your study explain those calls?

 

[mehmetin]

Sorry - slipping into my native tongue. I mean your arguments have been soundly defeated.

You are wrong. My arguments were not defeated at all. The main question that starts everything is "How and Why 4 different teams made successive hijacks?"

If you are able to answer tha tquestion or you know anybody who is able to do it, you are welcome. I jsut need strong scientific and logical explanation. No probabilistic null answers. Such coincidence in 4 planes could not be a probability event, it's probability is zero.

 

[Sideroxylon]

They are not in the plot. But most of the professionals in that area do not need to know such details. Only antenna producer engineers should be aware of that, plus some initial network designers, some standards writers, ... All those people are not obliged to investigate nor to speak out about 9/11.

Just have a look to some antenna specifications and you'll find that they produce horizontally guided waves.

Hmmm but what of the many professionals around the world that would know these things?

So when are you going to a peer-reviewed journal with this ever-so important information?

 

[I Ratant]

Meh, your knowledge of aircraft operations sucks, to be technical about it.
The hijackers on two of the flights used the -autopilot- to fly most of the way towards the intended targets.
The flight into the Pentagon, for one, and the flight terminating in the crash in Pennsylvania for the other.
The other two flights appear to have non-autopilot controlled segments.
The long diversion across New Jersey on the UAL-175 flight, for one.
And the flight of AA-11. Mostly hand-controlled flight.
The standard issue autopilot can do everything involved in the flights.
All the person(s) in the cockpit (the little room up front where the human pilots sit) need do is determine where they are, and where they wish to go, and set up the autopilot to do exactly that.
And you might note that the Mossad agents flying the plane most likely would not likely be shouting "Allahu Akhbar" as they crashed the plane in Pennsylvania. Muslims would, and have been noted doing that on other flight hijackings.
Other than these lapses in knowledge, you display nothing of any consequence relative to knowing what you are blathering about.

 

[mehmetin]

Hocam, so share the "strong information" - a citation, please.

I won't give that information, it's personnal. But you can debunk it by supplying such information. May be you can have access to such data. You are welcome.

 

[DGM]

The database is not on the internet. Only professionals can access to it. But I know from stong information, data is deleted.

BS! This is just another case of "I can't find it so I will make up what I want". Show your proof for the "strong cable" routing or admit your a fraud.

 

[Sideroxylon]

I won't give that information, it's personnal. But you can debunk it by supplying such information. May be you can have access to such data. You are welcome.

I'm sorry, but that is a woeful response.

 

[mehmetin]

So when are you going to a peer-reviewed journal with this ever-so important information?

When an independent justice investigation will be started. Without that, it's useless to speak out. I just put it in my book.

 

[Sideroxylon]

When an independent justice investigation will be started. Without that, it's useless to speak out. I just put it in my book.

Excuses, excuses ... ooof hocam!