The 100% Impossible 9/11 Inside Job

George152 said:
Oh dear.
Who to accept as an authority ?
Beachnut who has had a career in aviation or achimspok who posts pretty pictures...

Guess who I'm going with and pretty pictures don't make it !
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That's such a hard choice,the pictures are so appealing.
 
beachnut said:
Exactly. The terrorist was lined up for 40 miles within 12 degree of being perpendicular to the WTC face, over New Jersey. Then he looks like he almost missed on ZOOM lens video. Fraud is using zoomed in video to make up the story the terrorist waited for the last minute to line up, he was lined up for 40 miles.

Showing zoomed video is a crock. I would hate to see some of my approaches on extreme zoom video, I know of one approach I did which would have scared everyone if zoomed like the fraud going on in this thread.

He has no conclusion, he has no goal.


In pilot training we come in at 1000 feet above the ground right over the landing zone, we pitch out at 60 degree of bank, 2gs, and we turn 180 degree to downwind, we configure and turn 180 degrees to land. We are 360 degree from landing, this terrorist was with 12 degree of perpendicular over 40 miles away, he did not have to turn to hit the WTC tower, there was no requirement to hit the tower perpendicular, only to hit it. Therefore the terrorist was on course for 40 miles, no turn required, no maneuver needed, it is 3D, the dive is part of the straight in, just like landing without a flare.
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Your argument is crock. The plane was "lined up" to reach Manhatten.
It dived at 10000ft/min and reached horizontal (+/- 1°) right in the moment of impact. You say it didn't level? It did. It didn't hit at 15°/6° as you stated. You said my data are wrong? No, you are wrong. Lens data? Nonsense. 19 terrorists? based on what? Lies and more lies.
 
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achimspok said:
Your argument is crock. The plane was "lined up" to reach Manhatten.
It dived at 10000ft/min and reached horizontal (+/- 1°) right in the moment of impact. You say it didn't level? It did. It didn't hit at 15°/6° as you stated. You said my data are wrong? No, you are wrong. Lens data? Nonsense. 19 terrorists? based on what? Lies and more lies.
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Why does this sloppy approach that almost missed rule out terrorists?
 
achimspok said:
Your argument is crock. The plane was "lined up" to reach Manhatten.
It dived at 10000ft/min and reached horizontal (+/- 1°) right in the moment of impact. You say it didn't level? It did. It didn't hit at 15°/6° as you stated. You said my data are wrong? No, you are wrong. Lens data? ...
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I never said 15 degrees/6 degrees, I saw 175 impact, the attitude at impact does not matter, the kinetic energy is the same as it really was, the passengers died as they did, and tower fell due to fire after the impacts disabled and distoryed fire systems. These are the fact you can't comprehend due to bias, and ignroace.


You don't understand flying, approaching the WTC from 40 miles away, lined up within about 12 degree of perpendicular all along the path, is lined up to hit the WTC.

Explain to me, a pilot, an instructor pilot, an evaluator pilot, a pilot with an ATP how a straight in shot is not a straight in shot? Are you having problems with understanding what lined up means? Which part of no major turn don't you understand.

Everyone, the 38 degree bank turn at impact, is over 5 mile turn radius 29,000 feet of turn radius, that is a 10 mile wide turn, there was no major maneuvering, no pilot skill was required., or is it? 911 truth don't do math. Cool, they tell you it is math, and then spew 7.09gs of nonsense.

Flight 175 was lined up for over 40 miles, a straight in approach, a no turn required approach, which an idiot pilot banked, most likely not even aware he was banked at 510 knots making a 5 mile turn radius at impact! Wow, nothing here but a paranoid conspiracy theorist who does not understand flying.

It not new for you to make up nonsense based on your lack of experience and knowledge.

achimspok said:
... fakes jumping time stamps into surveillance videos + fakes a double Atta + stops his baggage on the airport + changes "pilots uniforms" into "wedding suits" + hits the center column of a towers at 0° lateral + prevents the airforce being successful in one single case + let fly a passport out of the window + turned off transponders near invisible borders + changed FAA regulations + ignored PDBs + cars full of evidence ...
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achimspok said:
... You said my data are wrong? No, you are wrong. Lens data? ...
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Your data is wrong, or can you explain a 4.33g acceleration in your data? You can't explain it, it is your data, your data is therefore wrong by default because you can't explain your 4.33 g acceleration. Guess what the max acceleration at takeoff is? 0.363g, Means your data is flawed and you will ignore it, you will move on to new super stupid nonsense based on nothing but your delusions. Do you know what longitudinal accerleration is?

achimspok said:
... Nonsense. 19 terrorists? based on what? Lies and more lies.
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Based on the fact the terrorists were seen taking over the plane, it was the dying testimony of the people on board doomed to die because the terrorists took over the planes. Evidence, and the fact is no pilot would let his plane crash unless he was dead. It is our job to protect our passengers first, the plane second. What is wrong with my priorities, to protect my passengers and crew? Gee, the terrorists killed themselves, their stuff was left, it proved they did it, because the same guys were identified by seat who got up and killed crew and pilots - it is on the record. WE have the DNA of terrorists, but no wants killer DNA. Are you related to the failed terrorists?
 
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twinstead said:
Okay, I'm saying it's just gone up to 500% impossible inside job
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Maybe 1,000

achimspok said:
4 sec prior to the impact it was approx. parallel to the NIST angle and would have missed the tower. May be the wing would have touched the SE corner. Add 9m/s wind speed. You even see that the nose didn't "aim" at the tower. The aiming of the fuselage was the opposite then expectable. The nose would point more towards the north tower to nullify the effect of the wind.
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Called drift, something a first time real flight in a 767 terrorist pilot would end up homing into his target, slightly, like 911. Do you think he knew where the drift was in the navigation system? First flight? Sure.
More proof the pilot was on his first and last flight, he homed into the WTC. A typical pilot not use to flying large jets, homes into the WTC. You provide more evidence that the pilot was hand flying the jet, and he was a terrorist, but you are trying to prove otherwise.

You posted false information about 767 Vne, there is no Vne for a 767. What was your source? Who gave you false information on this?

You posted data, in that data a longitudinal acceleration of 4.33g, impossible. Is your data wrong? Yes. Care to explain? Your data is wrong, why?
 
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chipmunk stew said:
So truthers are less competent than terrorists?
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Not necessarily. They just assume everyone else is as incompetent as they are, so they can't imagine anyone else succeeding where they fail.

There are a few Palestinian terrorists who could compete nose-to-nose with truthers in the incompetence arena...that is, they could if they hadn't accidentally blown themselves up already.
 
aggle-rithm said:
Not necessarily. They just assume everyone else is as incompetent as they are, so they can't imagine anyone else succeeding where they fail.

There are a few Palestinian terrorists who could compete nose-to-nose with truthers in the incompetence arena...that is, they could if they hadn't accidentally blown themselves up already.
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I suggest you express opinions on your own area of expertise (support of lies and mistruths) and not claim expertise in the truther mindset.

There is no truther mindset.

The truth, unlike lies is not a variable.

MM
 
So... in the last 20 pages or so, has anyone demonstrated a way to plant 40,000 demo charges in the worlds busiest office buildings without anyone noticing anything?

Or do y'all just concede that 9/11 as described by the tinfoilers is 100% impossible.
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
So... in the last 20 pages or so, has anyone demonstrated a way to plant 40,000 demo charges in the worlds busiest office buildings without anyone noticing anything?

Or do y'all just concede that 9/11 as described by the tinfoilers is 100% impossible.
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More assumptions.

40,000 demo charges pulled out of your ***.

MM
 
Miragememories said:
More assumptions.

40,000 demo charges pulled out of your ***.

MM
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If by "pulled out of your ass" (you can say that word here) you mean "extrapolated from numbers provided for real world demolitions on Controlled Demolition Inc's website" then yes, you are correct.

40,000 charges is a helluva lot better for you and your looney tunes friends than Jim Hoffmans 2.8 million exploding ceiling tiles. :p
 
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Sword_Of_Truth said:
If by "pulled out of your ass" (you can say that word here) you mean "extrapolated from numbers provided for real world demolitions on Controlled Demolition Inc's website" then yes, you are correct.

40,000 charges is a helluva lot better for you and your looney tunes friends than Jim Hoffmans 2.8 million exploding ceiling tiles. :p
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You pulled 2.8 million out of your arse! It was 1.8 million :p
 
aggle-rithm said:
Not necessarily. They just assume everyone else is as incompetent as they are, so they can't imagine anyone else succeeding where they fail.
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Except, apparently, US/Israeli/NWO black ops superninjas who specialize in needless complexity.

aggle-rithm said:
There are a few Palestinian terrorists who could compete nose-to-nose with truthers in the incompetence arena...that is, they could if they hadn't accidentally blown themselves up already.
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Sword_Of_Truth said:
If by "pulled out of your ass" (you can say that word here) you mean "extrapolated from numbers provided for real world demolitions on Controlled Demolition Inc's website" then yes, you are correct.

40,000 charges is a helluva lot better for you and your looney tunes friends than Jim Hoffmans 2.8 million exploding ceiling tiles. :p
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I suggest you start by not arrogantly assuming you know everything there is to be known about destroying buildings.

The U.S. military and the Mossad might know a few things about knocking down structures which you are not privy to.

MM
 
chipmunk stew said:
Except, apparently, US/Israeli/NWO black ops superninjas who specialize in needless complexity.
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Miragememories said:
I suggest you start by not arrogantly assuming you know everything there is to be known about destroying buildings.

The U.S. military and the Mossad might know a few things about knocking down structures which you are not privy to.

MM
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Like I said...
 
Miragememories said:
I suggest you start by not arrogantly assuming you know everything there is to be known about destroying buildings.
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Thus spake the arrogant apologist.
The U.S. military and the Mossad might know a few things about knocking down structures which you are not privy to.
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And none of their members so much as blew in the direction of the events of 9/11.

How's that Truthy Insidey Jobby thing goin' for ya?
 
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