Warring No planer factions- Shansksville and Pentagon no-planers vs WTC no planers

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

This is getting off topic but seriously, I hate to love to lie. Because then I will have to remember the lies, and make up other lies to cover the first lies and so on until there is a whole messy and entangled web of lies that I have to manage. That's just an enormous amount of burdensome friction, a huge overhead. That sucks.

No, it's not getting off topic. You admit that you don't know anything about 9/11 & that you love lying.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lying

Lying:

1. the telling of lies; untruthfulness.

2. telling or containing lies; deliberately untruthful; mendacious; false: a lying report.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/liar

World English Dictionary

Liar

a person who has lied or lies repeatedly

 

[dafydd]

I don't lie about people. At least not knowingly. Or only to protect myself or the people.

The last thing that ''the people'' need is a liar like you protecting them. Who asked you to do that anyway? If you want to do that run for office and see how far you get.

 

[jaydeehess]

Because the shot is from a live news television broadcast at a point in time AFTER flight 175 is said to have crashed into the WTC.

Send a PM to poster BCR here. He is an ATC controller IIRC.
Ask him how this could be. You might actually learn something.

 

[jaydeehess]

Ok, that may have been the case, but theoretically the floors could have been so strong that they were not the weakest 'link' and instead that the columns were the weakest link, but that was not likely the case. Still, I wonder if a sturdier support by the lower columns would make those floors able to take more weight than the higher floors. For example, the lower floors would tend less to wobble and shake.

YOU made the claim that because the COLUMNS were larger lower down that the floors could carry a greater load. That is utterly and blatantly incorrect and I and others have pointed this out several times now and yet you persist in making the claim.
that is the action of a man holding religiously to a belief, not someone looking for 'truth'.

Now you wish to modify that to mean that beacuse the building would be swaying less at lower levels that the floors could take a greater load!!!!!!!!

I have rarely seen such an example of grasping at straws...............

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

And Anders runs away!

Just like the Joker says in "The Dark Knight":

"WHY SO SERIOUS?"

 

[fess]

Ha! Don't you think that some fragment from any of the black boxes would have been found if there really were real planes? Zip, zero, nada? All black boxes evaporating into thin air?

Gone, just like one of the “black boxes” in the crash in Amsterdam that was never found. A crash that I might remind you that was much slower than the crash of the aircraft that struck the towers.
Besides not doing any research, being lazy, lying most of the time, you have a short memory also.

 

[fess]

If that was an indisputable fact, then this forum would not exist!

Except to provide a place for trolls to play.

 

[Anders Lindman]

YOU made the claim that because the COLUMNS were larger lower down that the floors could carry a greater load. That is utterly and blatantly incorrect and I and others have pointed this out several times now and yet you persist in making the claim.
that is the action of a man holding religiously to a belief, not someone looking for 'truth'.

Now you wish to modify that to mean that beacuse the building would be swaying less at lower levels that the floors could take a greater load!!!!!!!!

I have rarely seen such an example of grasping at straws...............

No, not larger. At least the exterior columns had the same outer dimension all the way up I think, and it was only the thickness of the steel that changed. The columns at lower floors had thicker walls than at the floors higher up in the towers.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Gone, just like one of the “black boxes” in the crash in Amsterdam that was never found. A crash that I might remind you that was much slower than the crash of the aircraft that struck the towers.
Besides not doing any research, being lazy, lying most of the time, you have a short memory also.

Don't you think they can have conspiracies in Holland too? What if they lied about only one black box found?

 

[beachnut]

The sub-forum exists to post crazy ideas on 911, the no-plane nuts are some of the craziest ideas. A skeptic forum explains these ideas are nuts, false, idiotic, lies, and fantasy.

 

[jaydeehess]

YOU made the claim that because the COLUMNS were larger lower down that the floors could carry a greater load. That is utterly and blatantly incorrect and I and others have pointed this out several times now and yet you persist in making the claim.
that is the action of a man holding religiously to a belief, not someone looking for 'truth'.

Now you wish to modify that to mean that because the building would be swaying less at lower levels that the floors could take a greater load!!!!!!!!

I have rarely seen such an example of grasping at straws...............

No, not larger. At least the exterior columns had the same outer dimension all the way up I think, and it was only the thickness of the steel that changed. The columns at lower floors had thicker walls than at the floors higher up in the towers.

I know English has confusing connotations for the same word but 'larger' can mean many things; 'longer', 'wider', or 'thicker', and sometimes even 'heavier'.

Regardless, your claim that an increase in the dimensions of the lower columns would impart greater load carrying capability to the floor pans is incorrect, a matter that I have now pointed out to you at least a half dozen times. Will you ever accept this?

 

[jaydeehess]

Don't you think they can have conspiracies in Holland too? What if they lied about only one black box found?

So 'they' lied about not finding the 911 FDR's when 'they' actually did find them? ,,, or 'they' lied about finding only one in the Amsterdam crash so that later on 'they' could claim 'they' found none at the WTC?

So conspiracies exist everywhere do they Anders?
Long, complex, complicated and involved conspiracies with a cast of thousands..........
Better cover your TV so that 'they' cannot spy on you.

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Anders doesn't know that he's implicated in a real conspiracy.

 

[Anders Lindman]

The sub-forum exists to post crazy ideas on 911, the no-plane nuts are some of the craziest ideas. A skeptic forum explains these ideas are nuts, false, idiotic, lies, and fantasy.

Attempts to explain perhaps. True skeptical thinking is open to both sides of the arguments.

 

[Anders Lindman]

So 'they' lied about not finding the 911 FDR's when 'they' actually did find them? ,,, or 'they' lied about finding only one in the Amsterdam crash so that later on 'they' could claim 'they' found none at the WTC?

So conspiracies exist everywhere do they Anders?
Long, complex, complicated and involved conspiracies with a cast of thousands..........
Better cover your TV so that 'they' cannot spy on you.

Conspiracies CAN exist in all kinds of situations. It depends on what interests the powers have. People who believe their television set can spy on them are most likely crazy paranoid. Unless it's one of those new digital TV sets that have a hidden camera that sends video recordings back via the digital channel or wirelessly. Just kidding!

 

[TJM]

Just kidding!

I'm not so sure. What's your guess or what's your gut telling you?

 

[tsig]

I think they at least claimed in the news broadcast that it was live images of the flight tracking program. Someone could contact MSNBC and ask them about it.

Mystery solved.

 

[TJM]

Mystery solved.

 

[Anders Lindman]

I'm not so sure. What's your guess or what's your gut telling you?

Not likely. Then those who repair television sets would discover the hidden camera. Then it's more likely that laptops etc can have virus programs that use the built-in web camera. Plus intelligence agencies could use cell phones to snoop on everybody who uses them and keep track of geographical location. But even intelligence agencies follow the laws as far as possible I think so they would only perform such mass snooping if it was legal (technically it would be fairly easy to do mass cell phone snooping using computers).

 

[TJM]

Not likely. Then those who repair television sets would discover the hidden camera. Then it's more likely that laptops etc can have virus programs that use the built-in web camera. Plus intelligence agencies could use cell phones to snoop on everybody who uses them and keep track of geographical location. But even intelligence agencies follow the laws as far as possible I think so they would only perform such mass snooping if it was legal (technically it would be fairly easy to do mass cell phone snooping using computers).

So, following your reasoning, those who work in and maintain buildings are likely to discover a cannon loaded with heavy aircraft parts and enough explosives to blow them 3 blocks and tell somebody, those who work in broadcast television are likely to find discrepancies in production, etc, etc, etc.

Thank you.