Warring No planer factions- Shansksville and Pentagon no-planers vs WTC no planers

One of the dumbest claims, a most moronic claim, about 911 is "UBL is not wanted for 911". They spew this idea out and fail to realize it means nothing.

The lack of logic used by 911 dolts who spit on truth is epic. If we were suspects in a murder case, some people may say we were wanted for murder, but the correct legal term might be we are suspects or people of interest related to a murder. Suspect, wanted, a confusing term for 911 truth fantasy believers.

The FBI makes it clear UBL is a suspect for terrorist attacks throughout the world.
Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world.
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My only question for the dolts in 911 truth; Is NYC part of the world?

I would ask if UBL is a suspect related to 911, but the logic might make 911 truth heads esplode. I suspect the sun is up, but it is raining; what does up mean?

If you think 911 was an inside job, or there were no planes and terrorists, you will want to take a timeout and get some training in logic and critical thinking, and how to do research.

911 truth is suspect ...
 
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twinstead said:
Why do you say stuff like this when you actually have no idea what you are talking about? Do you think we're just going to take your word for it? We're not a couple blokes at the local pub.
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The building would have constituted a huge resistance. Even a bird hitting an airplane going that fast will result in the airplane getting severely smashed.
 
beachnut said:
One of the dumbest claims, a most moronic claim, about 911 is "UBL is not wanted for 911". They spew this idea out and fail to realize it means nothing.

The lack of logic used by 911 dolts who spit on truth is epic. If we were suspects in a murder case, some people may say we were wanted for murder, but the correct legal term might be we are suspects or people of interest related to a murder. Suspect, wanted, a confusing term for 911 truth fantasy believers.

The FBI makes it clear UBL is a suspect for terrorist attacks throughout the world.
My only question for the dolts in 911 truth; Is NYC part of the world?

I would ask if UBL is a suspect related to 911, but the logic might make 911 truth heads esplode. I suspect the sun is up, but it is raining; what does up mean?

If you think 911 was an inside job, or there were no planes and terrorists, you will want to take a timeout and get some training in logic and critical thinking, and how to do research.

911 truth is suspect ...
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I don't the difference between wanted and suspect. My guess would be that if someone is wanted, then that is a stronger accusation than if he or she is a suspect. To my defense I must quickly add that English is not my native language. :)
 
Anders Lindman said:
The building would have constituted a huge resistance. Even a bird hitting an airplane going that fast will result in the airplane getting severely smashed.
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You don't think that velocity and mass had anything to do with it? Can you explain how bullets go through solid things? You can't just SAY things, even if they make sense to YOU, and have them be automatically true.
 
Anders Lindman said:
That according to the FBI, Usama Bin Laden is not guilty of the 9/11 attacks.
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This is of course not true, but if so, do you think that the masterminds of this inside job you think happened would have simply declared UBL guilty even if he wasn't? Is the FBI not in on the plot? That wouldn't make any sense, would it?
 
twinstead said:
You don't think that velocity and mass had anything to do with it? Can you explain how bullets go through solid things? You can't just SAY things, even if they make sense to YOU, and have them be automatically true.
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A bullet is a massive and sturdy object. Airplanes are very fragile.
 
twinstead said:
This is of course not true, but if so, do you think that the masterminds of this inside job you think happened would have simply declared UBL guilty even if he wasn't? Is the FBI not in on the plot? That wouldn't make any sense, would it?
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No, the FBI is not a part of some inside job conspiracy is my guess.
 
Craig4 said:
Thus proving?
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That the fireball explosions should have started directly at impact, with lots of jet fuel splashed across the facade of the towers. For example the floors would have constituted an enormous horizontal resistance, and the wings hit the facades at an angle, intersecting several floors.
 
Anders Lindman said:
That the fireball explosions should have started directly at impact, with lots of jet fuel splashed across the facade of the towers. For example the floors would have constituted an enormous horizontal resistance, and the wings hit the facades at an angle, intersecting several floors.
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You are aware of the well known and established case of the bomber impacting the Empire State Building? This plane also breeched the exterior walls and was flying much slower than the jet airliners that hit the World Trade Center.
 
Craig4 said:
You are aware of the well known and established case of the bomber impacting the Empire State Building? This plane also breeched the exterior walls and was flying much slower than the jet airliners that hit the World Trade Center.
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"At 9:49 a.m., the ten-ton, B-25 bomber smashed into the north side of the Empire State Building. The majority of the plane hit the 79th floor, creating a hole in the building eighteen feet wide and twenty feet high. The plane's high-octane fuel exploded, hurtling flames down the side of the building and inside through hallways and stairwells all the way down to the 75th floor."

From: http://history1900s.about.com/od/1940s/a/empirecrash.htm
 
Another failed claim by truthers is about how strong aircraft are? They say stupid stuff like birds damage the plane, trying to imply an impact by large jet is trivial, and the plane will fall apart and not do much damage. I guess that is their point, they never do define it with physics.

According to physics, a science not used by 911 truth for explaining reality, the aircraft impacts on 911 at the WTC were equal in kinetic energy to 1,300 and 2,093 pounds of TNT. When compared the the substantial damage done to the Empire State Building by a B-25, we see the B-25 only imparted 18 pounds of TNT with the its kinetic energy. 911 truth and the insane no-plane claims fail to realize the WTC was designed for an impact of an aircraft and that kinetic energy impact was equal to 187 pounds of TNT.

Light weight aluminum is a cool term, and with that light weight aluminum we have two planes weighing over 270,000 pounds made out of "light weight" aluminum, going 689 to 865 feet per second. I find it hard to imagine an impact at 800 feet per-second. I say out loud, "one thousand one", and the plane moves 800 feet. Coupled with F=1/2mV2, and you have impacts where the object wants to be 800 feet in the next second and a building only a 1/4 second in length, so to speak. Objects that came to rest in the WTC went from 800 feet per second to zero feet per second in less than a second.

Does 911 truth understand there is more energy per liter in jet fuel than high octane fuel? (not much of a difference)
high octane gasoline 33.5 MJ/L
jet fuel 35.1 MJ/L

Does 911 truth know the wings with fuel entered the WTC? No

Does 911 truth know the jet fuel has to be ignited to start on fire? And the time to light the fuel up is more than the time it took for most of the plane to enter the WTC only designed for a 200 mph impact? No

911 truth, the no evidence, science free fantasy club, where logic and knowledge are not used.

The war between no-plane factions is due to multiple sides having different levels of abstraction on their pet delusions.

Anyone want to bring out the aluminum bullets?
I wanted to post photos of kinetic energy effects (speed differences) of different accidents, or something.

No plane failures like to say, "it doesn't look like an aircraft crashed", where are the parts.
Sometimes they post photos with their moronic no-plane claim like this.
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911 truth ignores the thousand of aircraft parts from Flt 93.

Typical of high speed impacts, no large tail section, no fuselage, and not surprising, as truther say birds damage planes, now mother earth can't destroy fuselages, or wings, or tails that truthers claim birds can damage! ??? Logic, if 911 truth discovers it, they are no longer 911 truth.

Air Force accident at high speed, where is the plane?
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Where, the same as 911, right there in parts. Eye exam time for 911 truth.

911 truth no-plane factions are like kids arguing about Santa, each has their own fantasy. 911 truth, Bigfoot and Flat-earth need to team up to triple their membership. Big Tent!
 
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