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Merged Their Return

Crossbow said:
Well, considering that you have been around here for over nine years and still rather ignorant about this topic, then it is no wonder that you cannot follow the logic in this thread which now has 41 pages.
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I'm sure he will want to forget this comment as well.
King of the Americas said:
...I've only seen the surface of your ignorance. Who knows where or if there's a bottom to that well.
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gambling_cruiser said:
Complete nonsense.
Epic fail at understanding arts, history, theology and human psychology and so on.
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"And God said, let us create man in our image."

How can this be interpreted to mean anything other than "they made like them".

That said, I have no proof that this is how it happened. I merely hold that it is one of the possibilities, as to how we arrived here, in our present condition.
 
bruto said:
Labradoodles are a new breed, not a new species, and only a new breed because their forebears' pedigrees are documented and their breeding controlled. Dogs of all breeds have mated for centuries and turned out mutts whose breed was never named. Left to themselves, dogs would likely breed back to a hardy, resilient, well-adapted mongrel type similar to the street dogs of the third world, superior in most ways to the fancy breeds, whose success at being dogs has been subordinated to the specialized whims of their owners. Same with humans. We're all the same species. We're genetically identical in that sense, but obviously not in the sense of being clones.
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Alright, so genetically we might be the same, but our society and how people think have changed, rather dramatically.
 
Psiload said:
-And how does the fact that we're better fed now make us more worthy of contact?

-The last steps we took on another world occurred forty years ago. If the ET's were so impressed by this, why have we waited four decades now without so much as a pat on the back or an 'atta boy from the ETs?

-By all indications it would seem that the ETs are getting more and more disinterested in us. They don't show up to boss us around anymore, or give us food, or wipe out our cities, or help us erect nifty stone buildings, etc... All we get lately is chopped up cows and "obligatory" fertility exams. So... what leads you to believe that THE TIME IS RIPE! when everything seems to indicate the opposite? What, besides your personal desire for the time to be ripe?


Oh... and I'd like to take this opportunity to say to ANY and ALL people/entities/Gods/gods/ascended ones/descended ones/heavenly visitors/Labradoodles, etc... who feel obliged and/or obligated to abduct me and assess the state of my fertility...

I hereby relieve you of your obligation. No... seriously, thanks a bunch, but... no thanks. Really, I'm good.
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The ONLY thing that makes us 'ripe' is sincerely global unity.

The Olympics are a perfect opportunity to make it happen...
 
SOdhner said:
What if they aren't paying attention anymore? What if the change in behavior from old-time godlike influence to recent unsubstantiated reports is due to them having packed up and headed home? Or, not home for sure... another planet somewhere or something. In that case there wouldn't be anything to do.

But let's say they're ignoring us, because that's more fun. I would say that it's impossible to tell due to a lack of information about them, but based on my limited data it seems clear we should get rid of technology. Burn it all. These sightings dropped off as we became more technologically advanced and so the clear solution is to revert to a state that more closely resembles the one where they paid attention to us.

We may also need to reduce the wold population, but that would start to happen naturally anyway once we brought about the collapse of civilization.

I apologize if someone has already suggested this - 41 pages is a lot to go through.
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Didn't 'recent' sightings start after we detonated a nuke?

When did the sighting occur over D.C. that launched PBB?
 
King of the Americas said:
The ONLY thing that makes us 'ripe' is sincerely global unity.

The Olympics are a perfect opportunity to make it happen...
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Actually, if it's a matter of: Sports + Number of Television Viewers = Global Unity, then the FIFA World Cup finals are a better choice than The Olympics.

It's probably just your American prejudice against "football" which has you thinking Olympics.

Not that I think your harebrained looking up ceremony scheme has any better chance of happening during a soccer championship than it does at the Olympics, I certainly don't. I'm just throwing it out as some food for thought.
 
King of the Americas said:
"And God said, let us create man in our image."

How can this be interpreted to mean anything other than "they made like them".

That said, I have no proof that this is how it happened. I merely hold that it is one of the possibilities, as to how we arrived here, in our present condition.
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Did He tell you or did you read it in a collection of mythological stories?
That means it is complete nonsense as usual.
 
King of the Americas said:
Didn't 'recent' sightings start after we detonated a nuke?

When did the sighting occur over D.C. that launched PBB?
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I think that it's important to distinguish between your average UFO sighting and visitation from a god. Even taking your premise as a given, it's a fact that many UFO sightings turn out to be nothing but a hoax or something boring and mundane, and there's no reason to assume that we caught them all. Once you eliminate a reasonable number in that way even if you assume that all the rest are these gods you don't have the same QUALITY of incident.

They aren't talking to us, they aren't performing miracles, they aren't founding religions - other than a few pathetic cults. We don't get to see them building monuments or raising the dead or smiting people. It's clearly a whole different - and way more boring - kind of encounter. If you can even call it an encounter at all!

If we want to return to a point where we have some real attention from the gods, we need to look at the differences. We don't have the full picture so this is hard, but I think my plan of getting rid of civilization and technology as we know it is a solid one. Serious, high-quality sightings of gods have declined consistently as technology has increased. We need to eliminate electricity, we need to clear the air of radio waves and other signals, and we need to stop using fancy manufacturing techniques.

Once we're back to the Bronze age or less, we can look at the situation and re-assess if needed.
 
Psiload said:
Actually, if it's a matter of: Sports + Number of Television Viewers = Global Unity, then the FIFA World Cup finals are a better choice than The Olympics.

It's probably just your American prejudice against "football" which has you thinking Olympics.

Not that I think your harebrained looking up ceremony scheme has any better chance of happening during a soccer championship than it does at the Olympics, I certainly don't. I'm just throwing it out as some food for thought.
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The Opening Ceremonies were the most watched TV program, globally speaking, until this year's Super Bowl.

AND the LAST folks I want 'them' to make first contact with are soccer fans, nothing personal, but those guys can get a little too rowdy.
 
SOdhner said:
I think that it's important to distinguish between your average UFO sighting and visitation from a god. Even taking your premise as a given, it's a fact that many UFO sightings turn out to be nothing but a hoax or something boring and mundane, and there's no reason to assume that we caught them all. Once you eliminate a reasonable number in that way even if you assume that all the rest are these gods you don't have the same QUALITY of incident.

They aren't talking to us, they aren't performing miracles, they aren't founding religions - other than a few pathetic cults. We don't get to see them building monuments or raising the dead or smiting people. It's clearly a whole different - and way more boring - kind of encounter. If you can even call it an encounter at all!

If we want to return to a point where we have some real attention from the gods, we need to look at the differences. We don't have the full picture so this is hard, but I think my plan of getting rid of civilization and technology as we know it is a solid one. Serious, high-quality sightings of gods have declined consistently as technology has increased. We need to eliminate electricity, we need to clear the air of radio waves and other signals, and we need to stop using fancy manufacturing techniques.

Once we're back to the Bronze age or less, we can look at the situation and re-assess if needed.
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According to Rramjet's research, you are wrong. U.F.O. reports have been escalating since we detonated our first nuke...
 
bruto said:
I imagine that there is a little fact mixed in there, but it's no more history because some facts are thrown in than it is biology because it contains goats and camels.
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I disagree. History doesn't cease to be history, because it contains errors. We simply have to use those tales as a starting point for our research.
 
King of the Americas said:
According to Rramjet's research
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Well THERE's your problem!

But seriously, Rramjet has such a low standard of evidence that it's worthless to cite anything he says on the matter. He is focused on quantity rather than quality because to him anecdotes count as evidence and the value of evidence is measured by weight - more stories means they must be true!

Setting that aside, we still have the QUALITY of visit. A few fly-by UFOs? Lame! Let's get the gods back, with the flashy shows of power and acts of creation and destruction!

Destroying civilization is the only logical way to go about this.
 
King of the Americas said:
I disagree. History doesn't cease to be history, because it contains errors. We simply have to use those tales as a starting point for our research.
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The errors in history are still errors, and considering scripture as history is a misunderstanding of what both scripture and history are. Biblical accounts of creation are not history, any more than they are biology or chemistry. The fact that they may contain bits of the same facts that history might, if there had been such a thing then, does not make them history. To regard scripture as just "history with errors" is a recipe for disastrous misunderstanding.
 
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