Warring No planer factions- Shansksville and Pentagon no-planers vs WTC no planers

[beachnut]

Think of it as a relatively simple 'David Copperfield' trick, with planted objects to fool the 'audience' and planted actors pretending to be witnesses, such as: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMelmLspMP0 who incredibly survived by taking cover under a desk (?!).

Why do you have to make up lies about 911? Videos/Movies show 11 and 175 impact the WTC, these are backed with RADAR, to the second. It is hard evidence you ignore, that make your claims nonsense.

Why can't you comprehend RADAR data?

 

[Anders Lindman]

Why do you have to make up lies about 911? Videos/Movies show 11 and 175 impact the WTC, these are backed with RADAR, to the second. It is hard evidence you ignore, that make your claims nonsense.

Why can't you comprehend RADAR data?

What radar data are you referring to? I haven't researched all aspects regarding the 9/11 attack. The radar data I posted recently showed flight 175 still flying in the air after it supposed to have crashed into one of the WTC towers.

 

[TJM]

What radar data are you referring to? I haven't researched all aspects regarding the 9/11 attack. The radar data I posted recently showed flight 175 still flying in the air after it supposed to have crashed into one of the WTC towers.

You don't know the difference between Flight Explorer and radar.

 

[beachnut]

What radar data are you referring to? I haven't researched all aspects regarding the 9/11 attack. The radar data I posted recently showed flight 175 still flying in the air after it supposed to have crashed into one of the WTC towers.

No, you posted you have no clue what RADAR is. And you have no clue you exposed your ignorance. And still don't. You posted nonsense made up by an idiot.

The jet engine and the landing gear were planted inside the WTC tower. Watch this short video clip and listen to the sharp bang at the moment the jet engine and the landing gear shoot out of the building like cannonballs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0Qu6eyyr4c

The bang heard in the clip indicates explosives used to make the jet engine and the landing gear shoot out of the tower like that.

You debunked your claims. Good job. No explosive, those are ejections from a kinetic energy impact of a 767. You proved it! You debunked yourself, which is what 911 truth does best.

... ? I haven't researched all aspects regarding the 9/11 attack. ...

... you make up lies about 911 based on incomplete research.

 

[Craig4]

What radar data are you referring to? I haven't researched all aspects regarding the 9/11 attack.

Don't you think it would be more respectful and in better taste if you had? You're turning a national tragedy into a meaningless hobby and you can't even be bothered to put in the effort. If you're going to be this disrespectful you might at least have the decency of not phoning it in.

 

[Anders Lindman]

No explosive, those are ejections from a kinetic energy impact of a 767.

No, the fireball explosion happens shortly before the sharp, short bang. That bang doesn't come from the fireball but from a sharper form of explosion.

 

[beachnut]

No, the fireball explosion happens shortly before the sharp, short bang. That bang doesn't come from the fireball but from a sharper form of explosion.

It is physics, the speed of light, it is different from the speed of sound. This is why in a track meet we go on the smoke, not the sound, and we win. Looks like your incomplete research on 911 makes you believe in fantasy, real stupid ones.

You are serious about the sound, that is sad.

 

[alienentity]

No, the fireball explosion happens shortly before the sharp, short bang. That bang doesn't come from the fireball but from a sharper form of explosion.

You're a silly person. What kind of sound would you expect a jet to make when it impacts a building at hundreds of miles per hour? Perhaps...a bang?

Oh dear lord no, must be explosives...

 

[Anders Lindman]

It is physics, the speed of light, it is different from the speed of sound. This is why in a track meet we go on the smoke, not the sound, and we win. Looks like your incomplete research on 911 makes you believe in fantasy, real stupid ones.

You are serious about the sound, that is sad.

Yes, the sound becomes delayed, but judging by the camera angle only with about half a second or so which is consistent with the sharp bang and the start of the two projectiles (jet engine plus landing gear I assume) shooting out of the building. It's a short 'click type' kind of sound, hardly produced by the fireball explosion.

 

[Anders Lindman]

only with about half a second or so

Maybe delayed with as much as around one second, but still, the short, sharp sound isn't produced by the fireball explosion imo.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Ahhh,, no,
http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&...rg&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=c1f3adc9cfc4964

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Flight+Explorer+Announces+Enhanced+Version+of+%27Flight+Explorer+Select...-a099372462

* Coast Mode -- Shows the projected position of an aircraft between actual
updates using the previous heading and speed information

Projected position. Ok, but for how many seconds? Hardly projected position from a whole hour into the past.

 

[dtugg]

I wonder why the perps didn't plant black boxes if they were necessary to make the conspiracy believable. Oh, that's right the perps were somehow able to pull off the greatest hoax of all time but couldn't get their hands on a few black boxes. Anders, do you understand why normal people think that you're crazy?

 

[Anders Lindman]

I wonder why the perps didn't plant black boxes if they were necessary to make the conspiracy believable. Oh, that's right the perps were somehow able to pull off the greatest hoax of all time but couldn't get their hands on a few black boxes. Anders, do you understand why normal people think that you're crazy?

Do you think David Copperfield could get hold of real black boxes and program them with the correct flight data and voice recording? The perpetrators had not much more resources available to them than an ordinary stage magician is my guess.

 

[dtugg]

Do you think David Copperfield could get hold of real black boxes and program them with the correct flight data and voice recording? The perpetrators had not much more resources available to them than an ordinary stage magician is my guess.

Are you for real? They only had the resources of stage magicians yet were able to fake four plane crashes and blow up the WTC without being caught and in fact pinning the whole thing on people who had nothing to do with it. You do understand why normal people think you're crazy, right?

 

[beachnut]

Do you think David Copperfield could get hold of real black boxes and program them with the correct flight data and voice recording? The perpetrators had not much more resources available to them than an ordinary stage magician is my guess.

Are black boxes made to survive a collapse of a building equal in kinetic energy to over 130 TONS of TNT, times two? Please give the answer in the form of yes, or no.

Are black boxes made to survive in a collapse of a building with the mass of a WTC tower? Try a yes or no answer with supporting references please. Guess what, I already know the answer.


A few floors crushed together, could be a black box crushed in there?

 

[Anders Lindman]

Are you for real? They only had the resources of stage magicians yet were able to fake four plane crashes and blow up the WTC without being caught and in fact pinning the whole thing on people who had nothing to do with it. You do understand why normal people think you're crazy, right?

My theory is that the initial 9/11 attack didn't require much resources except access to a Media Control Center in NYC where they could insert crude 2D graphics silhouettes of an airliner for a few seconds into the live (delayed only about 5 seconds to allow for the synchronization of the inserted computer graphics) video feeds from the 5 major television networks, plus access to say two floors in each WTC tower for planting explosives and kerosene for the fireball explosions together with tons of Thermite on at least one floor in each building (floor 83 in the South Tower if I remember correctly) and explosives mounted on the facade to create the 'cookie cutter' shapes of planes. And lots of explosives under the basements of the towers to emulate a severe earthquake to bring the buildings down (the WTC towers were designed to pancake like they did for safety reasons). The attack on the Pentagon and the alleged crash near Shanksville could have been separate events.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Are black boxes made to survive a collapse of a building equal in kinetic energy to over 130 TONS of TNT, times two? Please give the answer in the form of yes, or no.

Are black boxes made to survive in a collapse of a building with the mass of a WTC tower? Try a yes or no answer with supporting references please. Guess what, I already know the answer.


A few floors crushed together, could be a black box crushed in there?
[qimg]http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/11crushedfloors.jpg[/qimg]

Yeah, ok, I guess the black boxes could have been, not crushed, but squeezed between the rubble of concrete and steel, BUT why didn't the investigators put in the effort to examine all the rubble to see if they could find black boxes and other important parts embedded in it?

 

[Anders Lindman]

My theory is that the initial 9/11 attack didn't require much resources except access to a Media Control Center in NYC where they could insert crude 2D graphics silhouettes of an airliner for a few seconds into the live (delayed only about 5 seconds to allow for the synchronization of the inserted computer graphics) video feeds from the 5 major television networks, plus access to say two floors in each WTC tower for planting explosives and kerosene for the fireball explosions together with tons of Thermite on at least one floor in each building (floor 83 in the South Tower if I remember correctly) and explosives mounted on the facade to create the 'cookie cutter' shapes of planes. And lots of explosives under the basements of the towers to emulate a severe earthquake to bring the buildings down (the WTC towers were designed to pancake like they did for safety reasons). The attack on the Pentagon and the alleged crash near Shanksville could have been separate events.

And, I forgot, one jet engine and a landing gear planted in one of the towers and made to shoot out like cannonballs from the building using explosives.

 

[beachnut]

Yeah, ok, I guess the black boxes could have been, not crushed, but squeezed between the rubble of concrete and steel, BUT why didn't the investigators put in the effort to examine all the rubble to see if they could find black boxes and other important parts embedded in it?

Where is the yes or no?

The black boxes are not needed, there was no accident to solve, 911 was crime.

Black boxes are used for seeing what caused accidents to help prevent future accidents. 19 terrorists did 911, that is a crime, no need for black boxes most like crushed by two buildings which weighed how much? Tell me how much can a black box take, the force of being crushed, what is it?

Oops, you don't do research, you spread idiotic lies and have moronic fantasies about the murders on 911.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Where is the yes or no?

The black boxes are not needed, there was no accident to solve, 911 was crime.

Black boxes are used for seeing what caused accidents to help prevent future accidents. 19 terrorists did 911, that is a crime, no need for black boxes most like crushed by two buildings which weighed how much? Tell me how much can a black box take, the force of being crushed, what is it?

Oops, you don't do research, you spread idiotic lies and have moronic fantasies about the murders on 911.

It's an implicit yes in the text "not crushed, but squeezed". That's only my guess. I read somewhere that black boxes are constructed to withstand huge G-forces but only for a brief period of time.