Moderated Obama birth certificate CT / SSN CT / Birther discussion

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Mojo said:
Nope - pounds and ounces.

Decimalisation didn't start coming in until the 1970s, and even then the imperial measures were still used by most people for quite some time.

In fact most of us still use them. I have never seen anyone order seven-eighths of a litre of beer, for example.
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I've never seen anyone order seven-eighths of a pint, either. That's hardly a good example; you order what the barman stocks glassware for.
 
Man, I blew the conspiracy wide open back in June and nobody cared. This whole thing with weight is just another layer of lies on the bean dip of secret Muslim Kenyan presidential nightmare.

I feel like I should go over all these problems with Obama's so-called citizenship and make a list of what every American should be able to prove before we accept them as one of us (or, one of THEM, as I am myself a secret Kenyan). Clearly we need a lot of very specific things on our birth certificates, but given some of the specific theories I think we should also require DNA tests on both parents and some sort of photographic evidence that the birth took place on US soil and not, for example, a sound stage somewhere.
 
TSR said:
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Sorry, and not to suggest that what you said was not the absolute truth, but


Did you then put him in a plastic bag and run him though the register? Or did you shoplift that little boy? Just Asking Questions...

For the record: Beepgirl, a ridiculous 8.3 pounds. Bear, 6 and a half. Monkey Boi, 5 and change -- it was, let's just say a difficult birth. And El Niño was 7 even.
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No, no shoplifting. I have the long form of the grocery bill, the affidavit of the clerk, countersigned by the manager plus a canceled check to prove it.
 
CptColumbo said:
Whoops. The cat is out of the bag.
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Well, I would be more invested in keeping the secret if I had been picked to take an active role in the government. As it stands, I am clearly a rejected alternate. Not that I can prove it, because I can't seem to get a copy of my Kenyan birth certificate and obviously any copies from the government saying I was born in Maryland are fakes.
 
BTW, orly's still at it. This time she trying to sue the Social Security Administration

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Alferd_Packer said:
BTW, orly's still at it. This time she trying to sue the Social Security Administration

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Alfred, would you mind "delinking" your link? The Scribd document contains SOCIAL SECURITY Numbers that may or not belong to those still living. She has violated the rules of court by not obscuring the SSN from her documents before posting online. I rather not allow her abuse of the legal system and disregard for the rules to continue by directing people to a document that has private information.
 
Arus808 said:
Alfred, would you mind "delinking" your link? The Scribd document contains SOCIAL SECURITY Numbers that may or not belong to those still living. She has violated the rules of court by not obscuring the SSN from her documents before posting online. I rather not allow her abuse of the legal system and disregard for the rules to continue by directing people to a document that has private information.
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Too late. We need a mod to do that.
 
Mojo said:
On the other hand, I've often seen barmen serving 7/8ths of a pint.
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George Orwell said:
‘I arst you civil enough, didn't I?’ said the old man, straightening his shoulders pugnaciously. ‘You telling me you ain't got a pint mug in the 'ole bleeding boozer?’
‘And what in hell's name is a pint?’ said the barman, leaning forward with the tips of his fingers on the counter.
‘Ark at 'im! Calls 'isself a barman and don't know what a pint is! Why, a pint's the 'alf of a quart, and there's four quarts to the gallon. 'Ave to teach you the A, B, C next.’
‘Never heard of 'em,’ said the barman shortly. ‘Litre and half litre — that's all we serve. There's the glasses on the shelf in front of you.’
‘I likes a pint,’ persisted the old man. ‘You could 'a drawed me off a pint easy enough. We didn't 'ave these bleeding litres when I was a young man.’
‘When you were a young man we were all living in the treetops,’ said the barman, with a glance at the other customers...

‘'E could 'a drawed me off a pint,’ grumbled the old man as he settled down behind a glass. ‘A 'alf litre ain't enough. It don't satisfy. And a 'ole litre's too much. It starts my bladder running. Let alone the price."
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That passage from Nineteen Eighty-Four always puzzled me. How could a pint be just right and a half-liter not enough when a pint was 473 ml, i.e., less than half a liter?

A few years ago I was working for a company where both of the owners were from the UK. One of them happened to tell me that a pint of beer, as traditionally served in British pubs, was 20 fluid ounces instead of the US pint of 16 fluid ounces, and it just fell into place for me.

Funny thing, literature. ;)
 
You can report your post and request that a mod do that.

ETA: With respect to Alferd_Packer's post.
 
Darat said:
Let me get this straight - people are claiming that he can't know how much he weighed at birth because it isn't on his birth certificate? Please tell me that isn't the case!
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Yep. "The stupid, it burns".
And on a (vaguely) related note; I know my birth weight even though it isn't on my "long form" BC!!:eek::eye-poppi:jaw-dropp

BenBurch said:
People are not only stupider than you believe, they are stupider than you can believe.
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Alas, true.
 
ktesibios said:
That passage from Nineteen Eighty-Four always puzzled me. How could a pint be just right and a half-liter not enough when a pint was 473 ml, i.e., less than half a liter?

A few years ago I was working for a company where both of the owners were from the UK. One of them happened to tell me that a pint of beer, as traditionally served in British pubs, was 20 fluid ounces instead of the US pint of 16 fluid ounces, and it just fell into place for me.

Funny thing, literature. ;)
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UK Law, beer has to be served as a Pint, a half or a third. Since the 80s glasses have a line on them indicating the required level, most leave half an inch or so for the 'head'
 
I found this post by a person under the handle: e.vattel

Wanted to add..one more item that has been overlooked.

The word Natural and Kind have the same meaning. The Founders used the word natural to place the citizens created into a Kind.

Kind, Native, Natural, Kindred, Gecynde. Natural born citizens are the descendants of the original citizens created after the ratification of the Constitution. Those who immigrated to the US that were in the same Kind can be natural born citizens.

The new citizens after the ratification became the natives and indigenous Americans.

Please note the 14th Amendment created citizens..but they were not indigenous to the United States because they were brought here against their will.

To sum it up. The Founders by using the word natural (Kind) limited the Presidency to Anglo-Saxons.
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http://discussions.courant.com/20/hartnews/hc-le-presnick-citizen-0212-20110212/10?page=1

Stupid, mean and ignorant, yes, but refreshingly honest in his stupidity.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
UK Law, beer has to be served as a Pint, a half or a third. Since the 80s glasses have a line on them indicating the required level, most leave half an inch or so for the 'head'
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Those seem to have fallen out of favour again - it's pretty much always rim measure these days.
 
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