Superconductivity at room temperature??

[johanfprins]

Comments on post #1154 by Ben m

Read it again. And again. And again. You've got a hair trigger for "lies", and firing every time someone says something you didn't expect. Your misreading of my words does not mean that I'm lying.

You are entitled to your opinion: But to me it is clear that if you were not deliberately lying, you did not and still do not know what you are talking about. No matter how much you now want to wave your hands around in the air!

 

[johanfprins]

Comments on post #1158 by Ziggurat

Wow. You're really losing it. You claim that there is no voltage, which means that there's no electric field. And yet, a force somehow still exists due to this field, even though the field is zero. Quite the trick, getting a non-existent field to apply a force.
Yeah, sorry, that's not an experimental fact.

Before making such a claim any scientist with any self-respect will first do the experiment. I described it very carefully in post #964. You will find that even though a current is flowing through a superconductor with zero volts over any two contacts along the path of current flow, an increase in any applied electric field, will increase the energies of the charge-carriers while the voltage stays zero. Because their energies increase, the activation energy decreases and the number of charge-carriers decreases until at a high enough applied electric field (which does not affect the zero voltage in any manner) their density becomes too low: Superconduction then stops and a non-zero voltage only then appears.

But, of course, Nature is not allowed to do anything that God Ziggurat does not allow to happen. Ziggurat knows better and does not allow his/her knowledge to be swayed by experimental facts. He/She just knows there are not mountains on the moon.

 

[W.D.Clinger]

First Goebbels, now Saddam Hussein. Your paranoia is indeed very impressive.

I drew "apartheid-era thug" at one point.

You can't hide your past from this scientific investigator.

 

[Ziggurat]

Before making such a claim any scientist with any self-respect will first do the experiment. I described it very carefully in post #964. You will find that even though a current is flowing through a superconductor with zero volts over any two contacts along the path of current flow, an increase in any applied electric field, will increase the energies of the charge-carriers while the voltage stays zero.

So you can apply an electric field between two points, and yet have no voltage difference.

Yup, you're losing it. What do you think voltage IS, johan? It's the path integral of the electric field! You cannot apply an electric field and NOT get a voltage. It's impossible by definition.

 

[ben m]

You are entitled to your opinion: But to me it is clear that if you were not deliberately lying, you did not and still do not know what you are talking about. No matter how much you now want to wave your hands around in the air!

I don't care any more.

 

[temporalillusion]

I don't care any more.

That's Rock Concert Move Number 163 from the "Rock Concert Instruction Manual - How to be a Megastar v2.0"

 

[johanfprins]

Comments on post #1164 by Ziggurat

So you can apply an electric field between two points, and yet have no voltage difference.

It is hilarious that you should post this; since this is what you claim all the time: You claim that one does not need to cancel an electric-field between two contacts for the voltage to drop to zero. That is YOUR line not mine.

In my case the electric-field is cancelled at the position of every charge-carrier owing to an opposing polarization force. Do the experiment and stop wasting everybody's time by endlessly posting BS all the time. It is really getting boring.

 

[Ziggurat]

It is hilarious that you should post this; since this is what you claim all the time: You claim that one does not need to cancel an electric-field between two contacts for the voltage to drop to zero. That is YOUR line not mine.

Nope, I've never claimed that. You will search in vain for any quotes to that effect. I have no idea how you keep concluding that I'm saying the opposite of what I'm actually saying.

In my case the electric-field is cancelled at the position of every charge-carrier owing to an opposing polarization force.

First off, the field is canceled everywhere within the superconductor. Any remnant field and you'd get a voltage.

Second, you seem to be confusing forces with fields. They aren't the same. The external electric FIELD is cancelled by an internal electric FIELD. Force is proportional to total field, so this means that there is no electric force. So at equilibrium, there is no polarization force either. No polarization force, no polarization energy.

 

[sol invictus]

Nope, I've never claimed that. You will search in vain for any quotes to that effect. I have no idea how you keep concluding that I'm saying the opposite of what I'm actually saying.

He's done that more times than I can count to all of us. The only explanation is severe cognitive dissonance - he literally cannot understand us, because he's so afraid of discovering he's wrong his mind keeps him from being able to.

 

[Ziggurat]

He's done that more times than I can count to all of us. The only explanation is severe cognitive dissonance - he literally cannot understand us, because he's so afraid of discovering he's wrong his mind keeps him from being able to.

I was actually serious about my suggestion that he see a neurologist. By his own admission he's got memory problems. There may be real medical issues involved here, not merely cognitive dissonance.

Time is cruel, and can ravage the mind as well as the body.

 

[sol invictus]

Do the experiment and stop wasting everybody's time by endlessly posting BS all the time. It is really getting boring.

If only you could see the extreme irony in this comment...

Doesn't it strike you as significant that in all the many interactions you've had over the years, not one physicist could understand your "theory" (and you couldn't understand them)? This thread is the latest example - you've got at least four very well-educated, intelligent, motivated people trying to understand you, and after 1,100 posts they are even more convinced that you're a deluded fraud (or at best, senile) than they were to start. Meanwhile you've misunderstood nearly everything they've told you. In fact you've not just misunderstood it, you've gotten it exactly backwards even after multiple repetitions.

There is a single common factor in all that, from which most people would draw the obvious conclusion. Instead, your conclusion is that "physics is rotten" - that everyone else is wrong. I'm not sure if it's sad or funny.

 

[sol invictus]

I was actually serious about my suggestion that he see a neurologist. By his own admission he's got memory problems. There may be real medical issues involved here, not merely cognitive dissonance.

Time is cruel, and can ravage the mind as well as the body.

That's another possible explanation, yes. The test would be whether he's like this on other topics as well, or just on his pet "theory".

 

[ben m]

Johan, I have a suggestion. Is there one person on Earth, other than yourself, who could log in here and explain your theory for you? Someone who:

a) knows basic E&M inside out, to the satisfaction of a mainstream physicist. Someone who could walk into a Griffiths-based final exam and ace it. Not someone who would say "I cannot solve this Gauss's Law because it contradicts my gyro-mechanical infra-aether theory."

b) understands your theory inside out, to your satisfaction.

If such a person exists, get them to log in here and explain your theory for you. You are not qualified to do it yourself. Getting a coherent circuit analysis out of you is like getting an oxy-redux lecture from an alchemist.

If no such person exists, I humbly suggest that you figure out why not.

 

[johanfprins]

Comments on post #1168 by Ziggurat

If it is impossible for you to understand the simple primary school fact that an applied force can be cancelled by an equal and opposite opposing force, then you it is impossible to argue sense with you. Thus if you have an array of localized states each of which can polarize to cancel an applied electric force qE at its position, how the hell can there be an electric field at that position when you take a line-integral of an electric-field through such a point? Stop being stupid!

 

[johanfprins]

Comments on post #1178 by sol invictus

Doesn't it strike you as significant that in all the many interactions you've had over the years, not one physicist could understand your "theory"

Another lie: Typical of your sick mentality!

This thread is the latest example - you've got at least four very well-educated, intelligent, motivated people trying to understand you,

"Well-educated, intellegent, motivated people" will not hide behind anonymous names: Only charlatans do.

and after 1,100 posts they are even more convinced that you're a deluded fraud (or at best, senile) than they were to start.

Obviously, only charlatans who are too afraid to reveal their identities, act in this way. I have been treated in the same way by the Apartheid secret police: Faceless scoundrels!

Meanwhile you've misunderstood nearly everything they've told you.

I have not! It is you who cannot understand that for charge-carriers which can be accelerated, and which move through a conductor by entering one contact and leaving by another, cannot EVER cancel an applied electric field EVER. You all claim it is possible, which proves that your knowledge of physics is less than what my goldfish knows.

There is a single common factor in all that, from which most people would draw the obvious conclusion. Instead, your conclusion is that "physics is rotten" - that everyone else is wrong. I'm not sure if it's sad or funny.

Have you read the complete argument from section to 1 to section 38? No you have not! And you probably will be too stupid to understand simple logic. But you are arrogant enough to keep on insulting me behind Ku Klux Klan masks. You are really impressing are you not! You are disgusting! Well educated? I do not think so at all! You are craven charlatans.

 

[Ziggurat]

If it is impossible for you to understand the simple primary school fact that an applied force can be cancelled by an equal and opposite opposing force, then you it is impossible to argue sense with you.

There is no force! If it is impossible for you to understand that a nonexistent field cannot produce a force, then it is impossible to argue sense with you.

 

[SOdhner]

"Well-educated, intellegent, motivated people" will not hide behind anonymous names: Only charlatans do.

The internet never forgets, and these days more and more employers are doing searches on people. I think it's prudent to keep a certain degree of anonymity when you can. While I don't know the real-life names of these people, I do trust that they are not part of a conspiracy; they aren't the same person, for example.

So then, what does it matter who they "really" are? If we were to work out some arrangement where a neutral third party talked to them and verified that they have names, and relevant jobs or educations, what would that prove? You've already said that there are many credentialed people who disagree with you, so what good does any credential do?

There are a lot of good reasons to use a pseudonym online, and that doesn't change anything about what they are saying - either they are right or they are wrong, regardless of if they tell you their names. I would count any dismissal based on using an online name as an Ad Hom.

 

[johanfprins]

Comments on post #1173 by Ben m

Johan, I have a suggestion. Is there one person on Earth, other than yourself, who could log in here and explain your theory for you?

Yes there are.

If such a person exists, get them to log in here and explain your theory for you.

They all warned me that the mainstream will fight me to the end and that I should not engage such scumbags; since history has taught us that they first have to die out before physics can progress. I should have heeded their advice! I cannot expect such persons to join the fray in order to spend endless hours to be insulted by charlatans like you, sol and Ziggurat; who obviously argue just for the sake of arguing.

I might be able to convince them to engage a person who is not a scoundrel who hides behind anonymity. I cannot expect highly talented, intellegent, busy people to waste their time on physics-idiots like you, sol and Ziggurat; without knowing who you are. Why should they waste their time on my behalf and be contaminated by the likes of you? In fact, even if they are willing, I will forbid them to go through the cesspool of moronic-arguments I have encountered from you on this thread.

 

[johanfprins]

There is no force! If it is impossible for you to understand that a nonexistent field cannot produce a force, then it is impossible to argue sense with you.

So when you use your hand to compress a spring, your hand and the force it exerts become non-existent after you have compressed the spring. If posting BS was a spot, you would have been a leopard!

 

[Ziggurat]

In fact, even if they are willing, I will forbid them to go through the cesspool of moronic-arguments I have encountered from you on this thread.

So such people exist, but we'll just have to trust your word on that because you won't let them talk to us. Sure, you've convinced us all now. And how do they feel about having you dictate who they can and cannot talk to? Do they like being treated like children?

Or perhaps you're actually talking about your children. Are they the only ones who "believe" you, because it's easier to humor Gramps when he gets like this?