Merged UFO @ Jerusalem, 2011. Call Captain-D

Mister Earl said:
Everything I said was true. The second part of that statement is a dodge. You have been shown to be factually incorrect in this thread, and you refuse to address this. A simple "I'm sorry, I was wrong" would do much for your credibility.



Are you conceding that the video you were viciously defending as real is a forgery, as was stated by pretty much everyone else earlier?
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Show me an example. I've repeated my statement about the fake Jerusalem video many times now.

If it's fake, it's fake. They were some pretty good actors though I guess.
 
kageki said:
Well I guess that makes the both of us.
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You asked for examples of UFO hoax videos with actors. I gave you examples.

You're now saying this was unnecessary, after you'd asked for it? Why is that?
 
Kageki, please see posts #77 and 85 in this thread. In them Stray Cat shows major discrepancies between the video footage of the supposed UFO and the expected workings of real-world physics.

If after you've read posts #77 and 85, you still feel that we have no sound basis for rejecting the video as legitimate, feel free to explain your reasoning.

Thanks. :cool:
 
AdMan said:
You asked for examples of UFO hoax videos with actors. I gave you examples.

You're now saying this was unnecessary, after you'd asked for it? Why is that?
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And I've explained why the fake Jerusalem video is pointless and raised a question about the people in the video.

How was that unnecessary?
 
kageki said:
And I've explained why the fake Jerusalem video is pointless and raised a question about the people in the video.

How was that unnecessary?
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I didn't post the fake Jerusalem video. Not sure why you're referring to my post.

Please keep you posts straight.
 
Vortigern99 said:
Kageki, please see posts #77 and 85 in this thread. In them Stray Cat shows major discrepancies between the video footage of the supposed UFO and the expected workings of real-world physics.

If after you've read posts #77 and 85, you still feel that we have no sound basis for rejecting the video as legitimate, feel free to explain your reasoning.

Thanks. :cool:
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Here I'll even help you out:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread658652/pg1

So yeah I guess they are hoaxes. You have to admit it was pretty good acting.
 
AdMan said:
I didn't post the fake Jerusalem video. Not sure why you're referring to my post.

Please keep you posts straight.
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Originally Posted by kageki View Post
...so your post was not just wrong, but unnecessary.

That's what I'd say about all of your posts, actually.


Originally Posted by kageki View Post
And I've explained why the fake Jerusalem video is pointless and raised a question about the people in the video.

How was that unnecessary?
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I didn't say you posted the fake Jerusalem video.
 
kageki said:
Here I'll even help you out:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread658652/pg1

So yeah I guess they are hoaxes. You have to admit it was pretty good acting.
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Pardon me, but... huh?

Why did you quote me, then proceed to ignore what I had written in reference to Stray Cat's debunking, post a link to someone else's debunking page, begrudgingly admit the videos are hoaxes and finally end on a complete non-sequitur?

Please explain.
 
Vortigern99 said:
Pardon me, but... huh?

Why did you quote me, then proceed to ignore what I had written in reference to Stray Cat's debunking, post a link to someone else's debunking page, begrudgingly admit the videos are hoaxes and finally end on a complete non-sequitur?

Please explain.
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I'm not knowledgeable in this field as I said earlier so I can't comment on anything technical so I just have to accept them for the most part.

So it's fake right?
 
kageki said:
I'm not knowledgeable in this field as I said earlier so I can't comment on anything technical so I just have to accept them for the most part.

So it's fake right?
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I am knowledgeable in this field and my answer is what ever you want it to be.
 
Frying Dutchmen said:
There's another video It's the fourth or fifth one I have to say I'm now convinced.
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That's the full version of video 4

Analysis seen earlier in this thread , or here on my YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84IK8X3HXro

I haven't gone into detail yet about the full version, but you'll notice that the quality of the image from inside the car is totally different to that when they get out of the car and start 'filming' the UFO.

Also as they drive up the hill, there are background city lights that blur in nearly the same way as the ones in the UFO footage do, but again they don't show the horizontal lines that are so clear on the actual UFO footage as the camera moves quickly to follow the UFO as it zooms upwards.

I think, these film students made the UFO video first and then filmed themselves driving up there as a way of making the whole thing more convincing. This however is just speculation based upon analysis of the footage.
 
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kageki said:
I've repeated my statement about the fake Jerusalem video many times now.
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Well, I haven't answered because you seem dishonest and antagonistic, but if you're really Jonesing for someone to answer your question about whether it's "pointless" or not, the only way I think it's possible to reply is by asking you to define "pointless", and perhaps to provide an example of a video with a point. What features would a video need to have a point, in your estimation?
 
Vortigern99 said:
Pardon me, but... huh?

Why did you quote me, then proceed to ignore what I had written in reference to Stray Cat's debunking, post a link to someone else's debunking page, begrudgingly admit the videos are hoaxes and finally end on a complete non-sequitur?

Please explain.
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Good luck with that request :D
 
Stray Cat said:
That's the full version of video 4

Analysis seen earlier in this thread , or here on my YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84IK8X3HXro

I haven't gone into detail yet about the full version, but you'll notice that the quality of the image from inside the car is totally different to that when they get out of the car and start 'filming' the UFO.

Also as they drive up the hill, there are background city lights that blur in nearly the same way as the ones in the UFO footage do, but again they don't show the horizontal lines that are so clear on the actual UFO footage as the camera moves quickly to follow the UFO as it zooms upwards.

I think, these film students made the UFO video first and then filmed themselves driving up there as a way of making the whole thing more convincing. This however is just speculation based upon analysis of the footage.
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The two videos were uploaded on the same day.
 
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