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kageki said:
Read the whole sentence of the second part you bolded.
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I'll not just read it (the only part in the referenced post that I bolded), but I'll bold it up a bit as well.


kageki said:
Funny thing first link was rense:
http://www.rense.com/general77/haiti.htm

Linking a software isn't an explanation though. You need to explain from the video and it would've been nice if you didn't cop out. You pass yourself off as some video expert so you should be able to explain it in your own words why the haiti video is fake, but you can't. Even then the article was bit a short on the technical explanation other then the admission from the author of the video itself.

I'm not sure what needs to be addressed for video 1, but I still find the people in the video interesting. Since you say yourself you haven't debunked the videos so I'm not sure why people can claim them to be fake with such certainty.
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Don't forget to click the link. Does that big, black lettering say Haiti UFO Video - HOAX or am I still having trouble with my reading?


Again, are you claiming that this post isn't referring to the Haiti UFO?
 
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Akhenaten said:
I'll not just read it (the only part in the referenced post that I bolded), but I'll bold it up a bit as well.





Don't forget to click the link. Does that big, black lettering say Haiti UFO Video - HOAX or am I still having trouble with my reading?


Again, are you claiming that this post isn't referring to the Haiti UFO?
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I referred to the Haiti video and video 1.
 
Mike! said:
Do you have a Masters in pretzel logic?
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Look what is the problem? My post is still there unedited for you to read.

First paragraph was about the Haiti video. Second paragraph about video 1. It's not hard to read.
 
You're making the classic error of attempting to switch the burden of proof. An explanation was linked earlier for you so now that you understand what the burden of proof is, can you explain why you think the video (any of them) is genuine?
 
Mike! said:
Do you have a Masters in pretzel logic?
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It's right here in this bottle . . .


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RoboTimbo said:
You're making the classic error of attempting to switch the burden of proof. An explanation was linked earlier for you so now that you understand what the burden of proof is, can you explain why you think the video (any of them) is genuine?
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I'm not necessarily switching the burden. I did raise a question regarding the people in video 1 which I would be fine as saying it's inconclusive.

I can't offer any more explanation at this point nor am I trying to make a case that it's necessarily genuine. I just haven't found the debunking explanation to be convincing. That is all.
 
Mike! said:
Yes, but how do we know it's fake?
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I posted the video to illustrate the point made by Adman that people do make UFO hoax videos just for fun. I did it.

Now, as for how can people know it's indeed a hoax, there are many elements in there that point to that direction. Probably you will never be able to prove it's a hoax, so you will be confronted with two options: 1) It's a hoax judging by the many flaws detected; 2) It's an alien craft from outer space.

So in the end it's up to the intellectual integrity of those who judge to decide which option is the most probable.
 
kageki said:
I'm not necessarily switching the burden. I did raise a question regarding the people in video 1 which I would be fine as saying it's inconclusive.

I can't offer any more explanation at this point nor am I trying to make a case that it's necessarily genuine. I just haven't found the debunking explanation to be convincing. That is all.
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Assume for a moment that there is no debunking explanation. What evidence would you demand of the orginators of the video (any of them) to prove to you that it is genuine?
 
kageki said:
Funny thing first link was rense:
http://www.rense.com/general77/haiti.htm

Linking a software isn't an explanation though. You need to explain from the video and it would've been nice if you didn't cop out. You pass yourself off as some video expert so you should be able to explain it in your own words why the haiti video is fake, but you can't. Even then the article was bit a short on the technical explanation other then the admission from the author of the video itself.
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Then as you know it's a hoax, it seems like you would just want to waste my time by having me write up my analysis of why it is a hoax.
What a strange person you are.

kageki said:
I'm not sure what needs to be addressed for video 1, but I still find the people in the video interesting. Since you say yourself you haven't debunked the videos so I'm not sure why people can claim them to be fake with such certainty.
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Because no one has come forward to show they are genuine.
There is zero evidence pointing towards them being genuine and an increasing picture of errors (technical and circumstantial) which would lead any critical thinker to the concluson that we are looking at a fake.
 
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