Wake up West. Wake up Obama. Islamic filth is coming to your town.

[leftysergeant]

Turkish fast food is not as worse as US fast food?

Bicycles.

 

[nescafe]

Nescafe wrote:
You should have been smarter than that.

No one is against Philanthropy. Philanthropy is voluntary. We are against government forcefully taking out money and redistributing the result of our hard and smart work without our willingness.

Yeah, it really sucks that The Government takes my money to do stupid and wasteful things like police/fire/water/sanitation/education/transportation/defense/market regulation.

</sarcasm>

you wrote:
Again, You should have been smarter than that.
you do, I do, each individual do. Pursue the things that interest you.

Awesome. How about I start up a coal mine, pay my workers in company script that they can use to pay rent on their company-provided shack and purchase goods at the company store, and we can extract more coal with daily mandatory Bring Your Children To Work in the Mines Day! Because, you know, that would increase my quality of life.

But, noooo.... liberals don't want each individual to pursue their dream but take the result, "higher quality of life" from me and give it to the people with poor value system.

If according to someone, if something is not "higher quality of life" then let other have it. But noooo, liberals get jealous of us having all the good quality of life. Why liberals are jealous of our quality of life if it is not valuable to him?

Protip: Try researching actual liberal positions, instead of propping up strawmen. Hayek is a good starting place, specifically Why I Am Not a Conservative.

You wrote:
That is a good question. Very good question.

Who decides what kind of health problem one has?
A physicians, and sometime a group of physicians.

Who decides what grades do you get in your exam?
Professor and sometime a group of professor.

Who fixes your automobile?
An auto-mechanic.

Who entitled them to be labeled as Physicians, Professors, Auto Mechanics, Electricians?
There are test, exam, certification, license you will have to go through.
It requires qualification.

Therefore, "Qualified, 3rd Party, Double Blind, Successive Approximation, Statistical Methodology" will determine who contributes more for the betterment of mankind.

What we need is Democracy 2.0, that is Qualified Democracy.
Right now any Joe Blow, cockroach, pig all have one vote. As long as your heart beats you got a vote. Whether you have brain or not doesn't matter.

Right, because that worked so well the last time we tried it.

 

[BNRT]

Therefore, "Qualified, 3rd Party, Double Blind, Successive Approximation, Statistical Methodology" will determine who contributes more for the betterment of mankind.

So you are saying that qualified people should determine if people are qualified. Who then determines who are the people who are qualified to determine if other people are qualified?

Also, not all inventers better the quality of life.

 

[nescafe]

Also, always remember that money is the result of life long good value system.

So much fail. How about:

1. Being born to the right parents.
2. Marrying the right spouse.
3. Being the most ruthless sociopath out there.
4. Blind luck.

All of the above have been sources of middling to great wealth.

I guess, you liberals do not teach your children above positive principle.
No wonder, you are just a middle class, working class.

You are a fool. Having a strong middle class (blue or white collar) is one of the best indicators of how "healthy" a society is, and is a core tenent of most "liberal" economic and political schools of thought.

If CEO of General Electric did anything illegal then catch him, try him in the court of law, and put him to jail if found guilty.

In theory, yes. In practice, the whole "catching" part is tricky -- money is power, and if you have enough you can be a whole lot more efficient at sweeping things under the rug, finding loopholes that will get you off, or influencing the legislative process enough that what you were doing was not "illegal" in the first place.

No one is forcing middle class people to work. If they do not want to work then fine, don’t’ work. We will take our factory to China.

Way to demonstrate your lack of empathy.

<more moderately incoherent rant snipped>

 

[A Laughing Baby]

Also, always remember that rich people frequently go to jail and do not ever use their money to avoid prison or manipulate the legal system. This never happens. Ever.

 

[timf1234]

http://www.internationalentrepreneurship.com/total_entrepreneur_activity.asp
what is actually the evidence for your claims?
we are both in the midfield.

What kind of data source is that?
How did they compute entrepreneurship index?
US: 10.6%? Peru 30%? Uganda 31.5%?
Do you want me to believe above data?
Although not perfect but US system is far better than that of Peru and Uganda for the successful result for entrepreneur minded people. Show me European mega success like Face book, Google, Microsoft, Ebay, Amazon.com. Dell computer….. the list goes on.

And do you know that most of these founders are self-made billionaires.
But alas, US’s business friendly laws/environment have changed and are changing for worse due to liberals agenda.

This is why I take Paris Hilton as my moral guide and compass.

Complete nonsense.
Do your own research and you will see the statistical result that one has higher probability of becoming multi-millionaire by entrepreneurship than going into show business or in sports. Therefore, Paris Hilton can’t be a role model nor her way of getting rich is highly probable. Plus, I think she inherited the money did not make on her own.

Bernie Madoff?

No system is perfect. But for every Madoff I can show you two Bill gate like.
Nothing is perfect, but capitalism is the best of all system. Of course, we have to play by rules. When we catch someone doing illegal thing then try them and put them to jail if found guilty.

If you cannot carry on a civil conversation here, that might be a good idea.(Don't bother sending me the URL.)

Actually, they are intended to keep people acting like hominids instead of like babboons.

Some animals found to have low level, primitive, altruism like sense. No one is against helping others. But know it is a help not a right. Plus you have no right to force me to help others. You can only request. Yes, we should teach our children to help others but it must be voluntary.

Europe has become infected with the mental disease that that idiot Thatcher set loose. Luckily, they seem to be resisting. The way that Iceland tanked after they bought that slimeball Friedman's ideas may incentivize them to resist the insane urge to privatize the commons.

Liberals built this country and have occasionally saved capitalism from itself. This was a grave mistake.

And you have wandered too far off-topic. Start a thread or something.

Absolutely. Liberals had many good ideas and have done a lot of good. For example Women Suffarge, Abolishing slavery, Support for Civil rights for Blacks, Giving minorities equal rights, Separation of Church and State are basically liberal’s ideas in actions. We are far better off today because of these good ideas.

But now, since 1990, starting from Jimmy Carter, Noam Chomsky, late Senator Canady. Michael Morres and the mental disorder other people like him liberalism have taken a new turn. PC, political correctness is running amok. As a result liberals can no longer feel, sense or recognize good from bad, right from wrong, truth from lies any more. All they do is opposing any and almost all conservative philosophy. Liberals identity is in affect “Anti-Conservative”.
Now, liberals belief and radiate many bad behavior, ideology, those are:
Lack of responsibility, dependency, curbing capitalism, PC, Affirmative action, unemployment, food stamp, cash for clunker, bail outs, so called “no child left behind in school” programs, list goes on..and on.
Do Conservative have bad ideas?
Absolutely.
Anti stem cell research, invoking religion in making decisions, Capital punishment, against euthanasia.
As of today, due to some aspect of conservative faith , American people won’t elect an atheist for US president, period.

and yet Europeans are in better shape than Americans.
how did that happen?

Better shape for who?
If you are in the bottom 30% of competitive index (knowledge, smartness, skill, foresightedness, Hardworking, have positive value system, inventor, driven, fearless competitor, incessant striving for excellence) then in Europe you will get better return for your time spend (living) in Europe than in America. But if you are in the top 5% or 10% then US is a better place to get most of your talent.

Yeah, it really sucks that The Government takes my money to do stupid and wasteful things like police/fire/water/sanitation/education/transportation/defense/market regulation. </sarcasm>

Two things.
1) These are the right job that government should do and charge us for the services government provides but then do not ask me to pay ten times more than my next door dirt poor guy for the same service of fire truck, or for using a gallon of drinking water, or for the same education. That’s utterly unfair. My property tax is being used to put life support system to prolong the life of bad/poor value system of incompetents dirt poor.
2) Government shouldn’t be in business of unemployment, food stamp, cash for clunker, healthcare, first time home buyer voucher, green energy voucher, subsidized education for one but not for me. Unfair, unfair, unfair.
You (government) set the rule of the game. I play by the rule. At the end of the day (in ten years or so, at the end of the game, I score higher than other. Then government come back and change the final score of the game. What kind of nonsense is that.

Awesome. How about I start up a coal mine, pay my workers in company script that they can use to pay rent on their company-provided shack and purchase goods at the company store, and we can extract more coal with daily mandatory Bring Your Children To Work in the Mines Day! Because, you know, that would increase my quality of life.

Then just don’t work. Quit.
Start your own coal mine. Or do something else that you are good at.

So you are saying that qualified people should determine if people are qualified. Who then determines who are the people who are qualified to determine if other people are qualified?
Also, not all inventers better the quality of life.

Corollary: So you are saying physicians will decide who is a good physicians?
So, you are saying ski champions are going to the judge for ski race/
So, you are saying, Mathematicians are going to decide if you or I, the new comer to the field of mathematics, have an error in my mathematics.
Do you have to be a rocket scientist to answer that?
Do you have a better way?
That’s why “Successive Approximation” comes in my "Qualified, 3rd Party, Double Blind, Successive Approximation, Statistical Methodology"

Can we build a more precise equipment using less precise equipment?
Absolutely. By means of ingenuity and ‘Successive Approximation” and “Statistical Methodology”
Do you have a better method?

Confession:
I am all in favor of Classical Liberalism.
But I am against the moronic modern liberalism that deviated from the classical liberalism since 1980s or early 1990s.

Also, always remember that rich people frequently go to jail and do not ever use their money to avoid prison or manipulate the legal system. This never happens. Ever.

Of course, it happens. Tighten the loop holes. But do not change the score of a game after the game. Do not change rule of the game in the middle of it.

So much fail. How about:

1. 
   [1]Being born to the right parents.
   [2]Marrying the right spouse.
   [3]Being the most ruthless sociopath out there.
   [4]Blind luck.

All of the above have been sources of middling to great wealth.

Except number 3, you are correct.
There are always reasons for someone ending up with bad/good value system and hence poor/rich respectively. But the fact remains, we must encourage good value and discourage bad value.
All happenings in the universe either 1) has a priori cause or 2) as a result of random event as allowed by quantum mechanics or 3) is the result of chain of combination of 1 and 2. Therefore, using this logic no one is truly responsible for his/her good or bad action or thoughts. But still we need to punish the criminals not for revenge, punishment or retribution but for restitution and deteerance.
Too heavy for baby atheist, half-baked immature atheist, I think.

In theory, yes. In practice, the whole "catching" part is tricky -- money is power, and if you have enough you can be a whole lot more efficient at sweeping things under the rug, finding loopholes that will get you off, or influencing the legislative process enough that what you were doing was not "illegal" in the first place.

Then make laws to close the loop holes.

Way to demonstrate your lack of empathy.

Greatest empathy to the society is to produce things most efficiently.
If you can’t be profitable (as liberal LeftySergeant says, by working $ 5.00/hr.) then find a new profession, learn a new trade; so that you can make $50.00/hr. Producer must, should, and will take their factory to wherever it can be done most efficiently, therefore, maximizing the benefit to the society.

 

[A Laughing Baby]

Absolutely. Liberals had many good ideas and have done a lot of good. For example Women Suffarge, Abolishing slavery, Support for Civil rights for Blacks, Giving minorities equal rights, Separation of Church and State are basically liberal’s ideas in actions. We are far better off today because of these good ideas.

But now, since 1990, starting from Jimmy Carter, Noam Chomsky, late Senator Canady. Michael Morres and the mental disorder other people like him liberalism have taken a new turn. PC, political correctness is running amok. As a result liberals can no longer feel, sense or recognize good from bad, right from wrong, truth from lies any more. All they do is opposing any and almost all conservative philosophy. Liberals identity is in affect “Anti-Conservative”.
Now, liberals belief and radiate many bad behavior, ideology, those are:
Last of self-responsibility, dependency, curbing capitalism, PC, Affirmative action, unemployment, food stamp, cash for clunker, bail outs, so called “no child left behind in school” programs, list goes on..and on.
Do Conservative have bad ideas?
Absolutely.
Anti stem cell research, invoking religion in making decisions, Capital punishment, against euthanasia.
As of today, due to some aspect of conservative faith , American people won’t elect an atheist for US president, period.

I'm going to take particular issue with this post here. Can you please enumerate why each of the bolded things are bad? I leave out the first three because they aren't actually concrete actions that any liberal in any sort of power has promoted in recent memory, and I leave out the last of your programs because it was a pet project of George Walker Bush.

I also would like to know what your issues are (and please be specific) with Noam Chomsky and (who I can only assume you meant) the late Ted Kennedy. I'll go ahead and leave out Jimmy Carter since I can guess what your issues were with him, and Michael Moore because he's essentially a pundit.

 

[BNRT]

Corollary: So you are saying physicians will decide who is a good physicians?
So, you are saying ski champions are going to the judge for ski race/
So, you are saying, Mathematicians are going to decide if you or I, the new comer to the field of mathematics, have an error in my mathematics.
Do you have to be a rocket scientist to answer that?
Do you have a better way?
That’s why “Successive Approximation” comes in my "Qualified, 3rd Party, Double Blind, Successive Approximation, Statistical Methodology"

Can we build a more precise equipment using less precise equipment?
Absolutely. By means of ingenuity and ‘Successive Approximation” and “Statistical Methodology”
Do you have a better method?

But you were not talking about physicians or mathematicians, were you? You were talking about "who contributes more for the betterment of mankind." Now, who would be qualified to make the decision who contributes more for the betterment of mankind and who doesn't? Scientists? Politicians? Popular vote?

ETA: And who controls them? Who makes sure they do not cheat and choose their own family/social group/company/profession as the ones who contributes more for the betterment of mankind?

 

[DC]

What kind of data source is that?
How did they compute entrepreneurship index?
US: 10.6%? Peru 30%? Uganda 31.5%?
Do you want me to believe above data?
Although not perfect but US system is far better than that of Peru and Uganda for the successful result for entrepreneur minded people. Show me European mega success like Face book, Google, Microsoft, Ebay, Amazon.com. Dell computer….. the list goes on.

And do you know that most of these founders are self-made billionaires.
But alas, US’s business friendly laws/environment have changed and are changing for worse due to liberals agenda.

show me better data. its your claim after all.
i didn't talk about Europe, i talk about Switzerland and that is tiny and has several huge international companies. And a comparable GDP per capita.
we even are ahead with the Billionaires per capita
http://www.areppim.com/stats/stats_richxnation_10.htm
looks like we are doing damn well for being euroscum socialists.

 

[timf1234]

timf1234 - Why is it you can't spell, can't punctuate, can't create paragraphs and can't create readable sentences? Is English not your native language?

That's correct.

 

[timf1234]

But you were not talking about physicians or mathematicians, were you? You were talking about "who contributes more for the betterment of mankind." Now, who would be qualified to make the decision who contributes more for the betterment of mankind and who doesn't? Scientists? Politicians? Popular vote?

ETA: And who controls them? Who makes sure they do not cheat and choose their own family/social group/company/profession as the ones who contributes more for the betterment of mankind?

Good questions.
"Qualified, 3rd Party, Double Blind, Successive Approximation, Statistical Methodology" = Q3DBSASM

To be a doctors who have to pass profession related tests.
Qualification
So, one need to be test in IQ, General Knowledge, World History, Basic Economics, Logic, Philosophy, etc. then create a board of x number of people.

3rd Party, Double Blind test should take care of personal interests.
As in jury selection defense and prosecute ask questions to the potential jury pool and can reject x number of jury.

How do we select/appoint supreme court justices?

neither the process nor the outcome will be perfect.
But Successive Approximation, Statistical Method will take care of that.

Do you have a better method?

If you keep your emotion aside you will discover that any of the top 10 industrialist did more good to the world than mother Theresa.

You liberals justifiably laugh at believer's illogical faith but do the same mistake by not acknowledging the above facts.

Q3DBSASM

 

[timf1234]

show me better data. its your claim after all.
i didn't talk about Europe, i talk about Switzerland and that is tiny and has several huge international companies. And a comparable GDP per capita.
we even are ahead with the Billionaires per capita
http://www.areppim.com/stats/stats_richxnation_10.htm
looks like we are doing damn well for being euroscum socialists.

If you are not going to compare Europe with the US then I am going to compare New York city with Switzerland. Then again you lose.
wake up.

More immigrants became millionaire in less than couple of decades in the US than in Europe.

Does this fact gives you cognitive dissonance?
You can't swallow the truth?

DC your value system based solely on compassion is flawed. You need to re-drive your principles from ground up. Please develop more foundational, lower level morality principles first before you decides if unemployment benefits, food stamps, cash for clunkers, handouts, first time home buyer subsidies are good or not.

 

[DavidJames]

Good questions.
"Qualified, 3rd Party, Double Blind, Successive Approximation, Statistical Methodology" = Q3DBSASM

To be a doctors who have to pass profession related tests.
Qualification
So, one need to be test in IQ, General Knowledge, World History, Basic Economics, Logic, Philosophy, etc. then create a board of x number of people.

3rd Party, Double Blind test should take care of personal interests.
As in jury selection defense and prosecute ask questions to the potential jury pool and can reject x number of jury.

How do we select/appoint supreme court justices?

neither the process nor the outcome will be perfect.
But Successive Approximation, Statistical Method will take care of that.

Do you have a better method?

If you keep your emotion aside you will discover that any of the top 10 industrialist did more good to the world than mother Theresa.

You liberals justifiably laugh at believer's illogical faith but do the same mistake by not acknowledging the above facts.

Q3DBSASM

Actually, you haven't presented any facts. You provide unsupported opinions. Let me know when you have any facts. Thanks.

 

[DC]

If you are not going to compare Europe with the US then I am going to compare New York city with Switzerland. Then again you lose.
wake up.

More immigrants became millionaire in less than couple of decades in the US than in Europe.

Does this fact gives you cognitive dissonance?
You can't swallow the truth?

DC your value system based solely on compassion is flawed. You need to re-drive your principles from ground up. Please develop more foundational, lower level morality principles first before you decides if unemployment benefits, food stamps, cash for clunkers, handouts, first time home buyer subsidies are good or not.

GDP
European Union 16,106,896
United States 14,624,184

ooooh, even the crappy EU is doing better.

No matter how you twist it, you loose.

 

[nescafe]

What kind of data source is that?
How did they compute entrepreneurship index?
US: 10.6%? Peru 30%? Uganda 31.5%?
Do you want me to believe above data?

It is better than the total lack of data on your part.

 

[nescafe]

Complete nonsense.
Do your own research and you will see the statistical result that one has higher probability of becoming multi-millionaire by entrepreneurship than going into show business or in sports. Therefore, Paris Hilton can’t be a role model nor her way of getting rich is highly probable. Plus, I think she inherited the money did not make on her own.

You are seriously out of the loop for a USAnian, then. Paris Hilton is famous for being a spoiled heiress. Her way of becoming rich is very probable, since once you are rich it is easier to pass on your wealth to your kids.

 

[nescafe]

Two things.
1) These are the right job that government should do and charge us for the services government provides but then do not ask me to pay ten times more than my next door dirt poor guy for the same service of fire truck, or for using a gallon of drinking water, or for the same education. That’s utterly unfair. My property tax is being used to put life support system to prolong the life of bad/poor value system of incompetents dirt poor.

Do you know any actual poor people? What makes you think they are incompetent? Do you have any knowledge of what creates and sustains poverty?

2) Government shouldn’t be in business of unemployment, food stamp, cash for clunker, healthcare, first time home buyer voucher, green energy voucher, subsidized education for one but not for me. Unfair, unfair, unfair.

Aside from stimulus measures like cash for clunkers and the first time homebuyer tax credits and energy policy forcing measures like green energy vouchers are avaialble to anyone who met the criterion at the time -- you could have been a billionaire and received those. For the others, they are their because it is hard to get an education and a healthy diet for your kids when you are working 12 - 18 hour days at minimum wage just to pay the rent and keep the power on in the winter, much less to be able to afford the education that might be able to get you out of the trap you and your kids would otherwise be stuck in.

You (government) set the rule of the game. I play by the rule. At the end of the day (in ten years or so, at the end of the game, I score higher than other. Then government come back and change the final score of the game. What kind of nonsense is that.

Society and the governance thereof is not a game.

Except number 3, you are correct.

No my point 3 stands. Ever heard of a company called Enron? IIRC, their management was just fine with letting parts of California suffer from rolling brownouts and blackouts just so that they could increase their takings from brokering energy sales. Sounds pretty sociopathic to me.

There are always reasons for someone ending up with bad/good value system and hence poor/rich respectively. But the fact remains, we must encourage good value and discourage bad value.

You have yet to show how wealth is a direct and sole consequence of ones value system.

 

[timf1234]

You are seriously out of the loop for a USAnian, then. Paris Hilton is famous for being a spoiled heiress. Her way of becoming rich is very probable, since once you are rich it is easier to pass on your wealth to your kids.

Proof of moronic liberals mind.
Theory of probability.

What are we discussing here?
We are we discussing about the kind of government policies, business friendly laws make a country good for someone and anyone to be rich. Of course, we will be talking about statistic and probability.

In modeling, one can think of US, China, Japan, Europe as an economic machine. Draw a blob or circle in a piece of paper. Then representing millions of people in the system draw a line to it. Then draw another line out of the same circle. This outgoing line should represent the number of multi-millionaires the system (US, China...etc.) are able to produce, let say in 20 years.

The ratio of this output (multi-millionaires) and the number of people tries to make money tells us the efficiency of the of government policy.

Similarly, one can find the probability of getting rich by adopting a profession as a doctor or business owner/entrepreneurship, modeling/show business, or be a college professor.

I said, the probability of someone, anyone, an immigrant to get rich is higher if he/she tries to be business owner than going to be in show business.

You can't use the clause "given the fact that someone is born in a very rich family". Of course, in that case the probability to be rich (by inheritance) will be almost 100%. This argument of yours shows intellectual dishonesty of not only yours but liberals in general. Actually, your neural Connectome (wiring) has malfunction, It is damaged. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Being born in a rich family can't be the aspiration, goal or advice.
To be a scientist, or business owner or a mountain climber can be an aspiration, goal, choice or decision.

Think deeper..., liberals.

 

[timf1234]

GDP
European Union 16,106,896
United States 14,624,184

ooooh, even the crappy EU is doing better.

No matter how you twist it, you loose.

Another proof liberal intellectual dishonesty or mental disorder.

Population of EU:492 million; US 308 million
per capita: US: $47,000 EU: $32,900

In case of number of multi-millionaires and billionaires US vs. Eu produces you are justifiably allowed to scale it according to the population difference. But still US win.

And we you take the number of self-made multi millionaires and billionaires US vs. Eu then the difference is even bigger.

When you take the number of self-made immigrant multi-millionaire then the difference is even bigger.

Similarly, one can find the efficiency of each profession, like medical filed, holywood, engineers, lawyer, small business owner/entrepreneur.

Modern liberals (another name of intellectually dishonest people),

I also have said that the US is becoming more like EU every year. That is more social policy, more encouragement for entitlement, handouts, bad habits, bad behavior as a result US is gradually becoming less attractive for entrepreneur minded people who believe on fierce competition.

China and India is gradually rewarding entrepreneur more and more therefore, future looks bring for India and China.

Hong Kong is number one in terms of production of multi-millionaires when adjusted for its smaller population. This mean Hong

DC,

The US/EU GDP without adjusting it for the population difference that you presented as your argument shows either you are an ignorant person, or you can't process data, or you are a dishonest person. I am more inclined to think that you are an intellectual dishonest person.

On the other hand, I am being totally objective. Because, I neither love US, nor Eu nor Hong Kong. My analysis is objective.

Hong Kong is number one in terms of production of multi-millionaires when adjusted for its smaller population. This mean Hong laws are business friendly and most efficiency to create wealth.

Because of the modern day's distorted liberalism US is now heading to its downfall. A system (be it US, EU or China) that doesn't encourage excellence and doesn't discourage entitlement mentality is bound to fall. We (tens of millions out of 6.7 billion people of the world) the qualified people will go on strike and the world will starve.

If you love the truth (I doubt liberals do) then ask your self, what was the cause of doubling the life expectancy on Earth, from 35 year to 65 years in the last 100 years? Was it due people like mother Theresa or due to the advancement in medicine, science and technology?

If you really, really care about people then stop liberal mental moral masturbation and understand and preach the things that really make the world a better place - that is, preach "Pursuit of Excellence", Competition, Creativity, Business, Entrepreneurship. Stop the things that directly or indirectly reinforces entitlement mentality, laziness, dependency. Shoot for the star. Put man on the moon and bring them back safely to Earth. Tell people get off your butt, government food stamp. You liberals are destroying the very fabric of the Western civilization.

 

[nescafe]

In modeling, one can think of US, China, Japan, Europe as an economic machine. Draw a blob or circle in a piece of paper. Then representing millions of people in the system draw a line to it. Then draw another line out of the same circle. This outgoing line should represent the number of multi-millionaires the system (US, China...etc.) are able to produce, let say in 20 years.

The ratio of this output (multi-millionaires) and the number of people tries to make money tells us the efficiency of the of government policy.

Do you have any actual peer-reviewed numbers to support your assertion that the US has multi-millionaires and/or self made millionares on a per-capita basis, that the reason for that is a direct consequence of the regulatory regime in the US compared to everywhere else, and (most important) that said self-made millionaires are morally superior to the rest of us, or are you just making it up as you go along?