Merged 'Loose Change' filmmaker arrested

I mean, Heroin for FSM's sake.

I wouldn't be rubbing it in if the jerk had been caught selling weed, but Heroin?!

I always thought the Loose Change crowd were on SOMETHING, but I never would have guessed this.
 
akama1 said:
was trawling google hits on his arrest and came across this
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread656984/pg2



??? what the .... that was a new one from out of left field. also fail to see the relevance

The other thing i noticed, the debunker sites reporting on this feel sorry for korey and hope he gets professional help. The truther site, up in arms that it is a CIA setup.
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Not visiting bATS*** if I can help it, but let me guess... no evidence was produced of this claim, right?
 
I haven't read the whole thread as yet (just page 1) but has someone made the link to Charlie Sheen going back into rehab?
 
Just to be clear for first time readers of this forum who may stumble across it just because of the reference to Korey Rowe: Yes, it's true that most of us here don't have a whole lot of respect for the guy. Count me in among that group. That said, the film he's most associated with - Loose Change and it's various variants - is erroneous, misleading, and just plain inaccurate regardless of whether he was busted doing heroin or not. He could be an otherwise faultless citizen with zero criminal issues, and LC would still be erroneous, misleading, and inaccurate.

The point of this thread is social: We bust on gullible people, and get harsher with those who choose to mislead others. It's not lauditory behavior, but yes, we do it. We got to be honest with ourselves about it. However, none of this is a commentary on whether LC is correct or not. Discussion of the filmmaker is still fair game, given his association with the film, but if anyone wants a discussion on the flaws of the film itself, do a search for past threads. LC would be wrong if Rowe were a clean-living, "Just Say No" personality. His arrest may indeed tell you all something about his credibility, and that can indeed be used as one issue with which a person judges the film by, but that is a separate issue from the film's inherent problems. A film is inaccurate regardless of the filmmakers' credibility, but that filmmaking group's credibility in conjunction with its accuracy or inaccuracy can indeed help form your overall judgement of the film.

Just so we're clear on this, for any new reader who's not versed in our subculture here.
 
ElMondoHummus said:
Just to be clear for first time readers of this forum who may stumble across it just because of the reference to Korey Rowe: Yes, it's true that most of us here don't have a whole lot of respect for the guy. Count me in among that group. That said, the film he's most associated with - Loose Change and it's various variants - is erroneous, misleading, and just plain inaccurate regardless of whether he was busted doing heroin or not. He could be an otherwise faultless citizen with zero criminal issues, and LC would still be erroneous, misleading, and inaccurate.

The point of this thread is social: We bust on gullible people, and get harsher with those who choose to mislead others. It's not lauditory behavior, but yes, we do it. We got to be honest with ourselves about it. However, none of this is a commentary on whether LC is correct or not. Discussion of the filmmaker is still fair game, given his association with the film, but if anyone wants a discussion on the flaws of the film itself, do a search for past threads. LC would be wrong if Rowe were a clean-living, "Just Say No" personality. His arrest may indeed tell you all something about his credibility, and that can indeed be used as one issue with which a person judges the film by, but that is a separate issue from the film's inherent problems. A film is inaccurate regardless of the filmmakers' credibility, but that filmmaking group's credibility in conjunction with its accuracy or inaccuracy can indeed help form your overall judgement of the film.

Just so we're clear on this, for any new reader who's not versed in our subculture here.
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Absolutely true. We do have to be very careful in what we say, so that "lurkers" don't get the wrong impression.

We do not say that LC is wrong because Kory has been arrested for dealing heroin, it is wrong all on it's own.
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
Oh yeah... whatever happened with that, anyway?
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I would assume, based on what I know of the military justice system, that they busted him in rank and gave him either a bad conduct, dishonorable, or other than honorable discharge and washed their hands of him. Hardly useful to confine the guy for any length of time, although I wouldn't be surprised if there was a short period of confinement included. That sort of thing isn't exactly advertised in the military system the way it is in the civilian system, so I can't look up information on it, but my guess would be that he was punished in some way, shape, or form.
 
Undesired Walrus said:
Reminder, innocent till proven guilty.
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I have to agree (excluding waterboarding known and admitted terrorist scumbags).

I have a relative that was arrested for selling cocaine. Now, if you didn't have intimate knowledge of the case, you'd think my relative was a scumbag too. Turns out, a friend of his asked him for a ride (about 40 miles) and asked if they could make a quick stop about halfway through. So at the stop, the friend proceeded to sell an undercover cop an undisclosed amount of cocaine. My relative was arrested along with the friend. Even though his friend told the investigators from the first day that my relative had nothing to do with the crime (aside from giving his friend a lift) it took almost 9 months to clear his name. His bail was A LOT more than Korey's.

As much as I'd love to jump in the bash-fest (oh it looks fun lol), I don't want to eat crow if facts come out that Korey was in a similar situation (god I hope he's guilty).

Carry on, have fun!

ETA: This was in NY (state law) as well.
 
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dudalb said:
Last time I looked, this forum is not a court of law.
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Yeah, but, if anyone here even suggests that Rowe is guilty before a verdict has been posted, then a horde of conspiracy theorists will start throwing non-sequiturs around like antigravity waffles, and claim that, because posters on this forum assumed Rowe's guilt, 9/11 was therefore an inside job. Of course, they'll do that anyway, but it's more fun to see what they make up on their own rather than feeding them straight lines.

Dave
 
Sabrina said:
I would assume, based on what I know of the military justice system, that they busted him in rank and gave him either a bad conduct, dishonorable, or other than honorable discharge and washed their hands of him. Hardly useful to confine the guy for any length of time, although I wouldn't be surprised if there was a short period of confinement included. That sort of thing isn't exactly advertised in the military system the way it is in the civilian system, so I can't look up information on it, but my guess would be that he was punished in some way, shape, or form.
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Worked with a guy who'd got a "general discharge" from the Marines, after two sessions in the brig.
Not a nice guy at all.
Our boss once commented that he'd never seen anyone so "universally despised" !!!
 
As a man who has had *ahem* a brush or two with the law I agree that we shouldn't be too hasty to judge.

However, if I were to make an observation, I'd say I can understand why Loose Change transformed into a paranoid delusion from its beginning as a short story.
 
ElMondoHummus said:
Just to be clear for first time readers of this forum who may stumble across it just because of the reference to Korey Rowe: Yes, it's true that most of us here don't have a whole lot of respect for the guy. Count me in among that group. That said, the film he's most associated with - Loose Change and it's various variants - is erroneous, misleading, and just plain inaccurate regardless of whether he was busted doing heroin or not. He could be an otherwise faultless citizen with zero criminal issues, and LC would still be erroneous, misleading, and inaccurate.

The point of this thread is social: We bust on gullible people, and get harsher with those who choose to mislead others. It's not lauditory behavior, but yes, we do it. We got to be honest with ourselves about it. However, none of this is a commentary on whether LC is correct or not. Discussion of the filmmaker is still fair game, given his association with the film, but if anyone wants a discussion on the flaws of the film itself, do a search for past threads. LC would be wrong if Rowe were a clean-living, "Just Say No" personality. His arrest may indeed tell you all something about his credibility, and that can indeed be used as one issue with which a person judges the film by, but that is a separate issue from the film's inherent problems. A film is inaccurate regardless of the filmmakers' credibility, but that filmmaking group's credibility in conjunction with its accuracy or inaccuracy can indeed help form your overall judgement of the film.

Just so we're clear on this, for any new reader who's not versed in our subculture here.
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Very well said! This is one of the reasons why I have so much respect for the JREF-forum. Here, you can find real arguments and real facts, not just personal attacks.
 
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