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Quit using such biased and speculative sources. Clearly what you have been reading has false information.

Check the citations on wikipedia to determine whether the information is from a reliable sources or not. I'm sure it is more academic than the ancient astronaut sites you are using.

THIS is the first time I have ever seen the Puma Punka stones described as sandstone...

The source for the Wikipedia entry is from 1970, and is in spanish. Not that either of those fact matter. I would just like to see something scholarly, recent, and in a language I understand.
 
THIS is the first time I have ever seen the Puma Punka stones described as sandstone...

The source for the Wikipedia entry is from 1970, and is in spanish. Not that either of those fact matter. I would just like to see something scholarly, recent, and in a language I understand.

I'll try to look up some scholarly articles on it, when I googled it I was mostly finding stuff like "ancient mysteries", "mystic places" and "unexplained mysteries". The types of places that would like to make it sound as mysterious and supernatural as they can.
 
I'll try to look up some scholarly articles on it, when I googled it I was mostly finding stuff like "ancient mysteries", "mystic places" and "unexplained mysteries". The types of places that would like to make it sound as mysterious and supernatural as they can.

I had the same problem...
 
What are you talking about?

You can't replicate the statue of David or a silicon chip. To you, they must have been made by aliens. Just like I can't replicate stone masonry so it must be aliens.

So are those both true or are they both fallacious? Or are you hypocritically asserting that one is true and the other isn't?
 
Wikipedia is your source...?Not exactly a scholarly source. I mean 'I' could change the page right now to say they are diorite or even unobtainium.

That is the first time I've ever heard of the stones being sandstone.

Sandstone is very soft, and I doubt seriously that ALL the stones there are made of it, simply by the lack of weathering.

Alright.

IF you can find ANYONE who can replicate that work, I'll kiss both your feet and theirs.

David was carved out of marble. After working with granite, I understand why he chose that medium.

Gian Lorenzo Bernini's work is equally impressive: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rape_of_Proserpina

The irony in this post is high.

Even most of the wooish sites I saw acknowledge that the stones were sandstone. Feel free to continue believing otherwise.

And you completely missed the point regarding STONE AGE TOOLS since the people who carved these stones used METAL TOOLS that they had been using for THOUSANDS OF YEARS AT THE TIME.

Really, we are all wrong sometimes. Admitting it actually gains you respect around here. Give it a try.
 
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If you CAN'T replicate this work with modern hand tools, then clearly someone back then had 'advanced technology'...

What we have in Puma Punku is something IMPOSSIBLE to make with stone age tools.

Then again, maybe I'm wrong. Pick up a stone age chisel and prove it.

My current offer remains, leave the stone age tools out of it. Carving a 90 degree angle out of granite is tough. Diorite is even harder.

The stones in question are sandstone, and look like sandstone. It would be wishful thinking indeed to see them as granite. The workmanship is indeed superb and precise, showing great craftsmanship, expertise, and geometrical savvy. They apparently prefabricated many of these stones at the quarry in precisely produced shapes that were interchangeable, very clever indeed. The craftsmen who worked these stones were in possession of metal tools, as should be obvious since one of the most interesting aspects of this stone work is the metal butterfly joints they used to hold them together. There is no question that these people were very very skilful, imaginative and inventive.

The idea that because you don't know how to do it, it must be the work of nonhumans is nonsensical, egotistical, ethnocentric prattle. Those folks were great masters of their art, but they did not need gods and spacemen to teach them how to carve rock, or some dude on the internet to tell they couldn't. The credit is all theirs.
 
If you CAN'T replicate this work with modern hand tools, then clearly someone back then had 'advanced technology'...

What we have in Puma Punku is something IMPOSSIBLE to make with stone age tools.

Then again, maybe I'm wrong. Pick up a stone age chisel and prove it.

My current offer remains, leave the stone age tools out of it. Carving a 90 degree angle out of granite is tough. Diorite is even harder.

The Egyptians were intricately carving diorite over 4000 years before the peak of Pumapunku...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Diorite_Vase_Neqada_II_Predynastic_Ancient_Egypt_Field_Museum.jpg

And before you further embarrass yourself by declaring it IMPOSSIBLE, please see...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obelisk_building_technology_in_ancient_Egypt
 
News at 11
Why super-highly advanced aliens are primitive
:D

The Egyptians were intricately carving diorite over 4000 years before the peak of Pumapunku...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Diorite_Vase_Neqada_II_Predynastic_Ancient_Egypt_Field_Museum.jpg

And before you further embarrass yourself by declaring it IMPOSSIBLE, please see...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obelisk_building_technology_in_ancient_Egypt
my favourite alien artifact is this one
hammurabi-code.jpg

The Code of Hammurabi is a well-preserved Babylonian law code, dating to ca. 1700 BCE (short chronology). The sixth Babylonian king, Hammurabi, enacted the code, and partial copies exist on a human-sized stone stele and various clay tablets. The Code consists of 282 laws, with scaled punishments, adjusting "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" (lex talionis) as graded depending on social status, of slave versus free man.

One nearly complete example of the Code survives today, on a diorite stele in the shape of a huge index finger, 2.25 m or 7.4 ft tall *
The Code is inscribed in the Akkadian language, using cuneiform script carved into the stele, today on display in the Museum of Modern Art.
But I don't understand, why would Aliens have a human king write laws for humans without mentioning they exist ?
certainly someone got the finger here *
 
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The Egyptians were intricately carving diorite over 4000 years before the peak of Pumapunku...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Diorite_Vase_Neqada_II_Predynastic_Ancient_Egypt_Field_Museum.jpg

And before you further embarrass yourself by declaring it IMPOSSIBLE, please see...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obelisk_building_technology_in_ancient_Egypt

Sir, with all do respect, 'round holes' are easy. A stick, and a bow, with some ground quartz will drill a hole in just about anything. Making squared 90 degree INNER corners is something else entirely.

Take a close look at the work. Carving is one thing, but what made the Puma Punku stones into what they are was a masonry wonder.
 
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Sir, with all do respect, 'round holes' are easy. A stick, and a bow, with some ground quartz will drill a hole in just about anything. Making squared 90 degree corners is something else entirely.

Take a close look at the work. Carving is one thing, but what made the Puma Punku stones into what they are was a masonry wonder.

And the comment just above re: Egyptian obelisks?

I've been to Egypt, I've marvelled at the obelisks - the size, the intricacy of the carving, the amount of carving, the fact that they are granite...
 
The stones in question are sandstone, and look like sandstone. It would be wishful thinking indeed to see them as granite. The workmanship is indeed superb and precise, showing great craftsmanship, expertise, and geometrical savvy. They apparently prefabricated many of these stones at the quarry in precisely produced shapes that were interchangeable, very clever indeed. The craftsmen who worked these stones were in possession of metal tools, as should be obvious since one of the most interesting aspects of this stone work is the metal butterfly joints they used to hold them together. There is no question that these people were very very skilful, imaginative and inventive.

The idea that because you don't know how to do it, it must be the work of nonhumans is nonsensical, egotistical, ethnocentric prattle. Those folks were great masters of their art, but they did not need gods and spacemen to teach them how to carve rock, or some dude on the internet to tell they couldn't. The credit is all theirs.

First, there are granite, diorite, and sandstone quarries in Bolivia. I am 90% certain that 'some' of the stones at Puma Punku are diorite. I am also certain that some are made of sandstone. In my searches I have seen sources that say both, and both stones are common to the local geology.

Second, what I said was that whoever did that had advance technology.

The accuracy of the work itself is awesome, but when you think about how many 'master masons' it must have taken, then the whole project takes on another meaning. You'd need an army of master masons, to do this. There had to have been a way of mass producing these things. They fit together like perfect stone legos, hundreds of them.

They look like they came out of a mold, rather than being individually carved.
 
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So, lets pretend for a moment that all the anecdotes ARE accurate, that history IS a depiction of gods descending from the heavens, and that this is what people are seeing when they witness a U.F.O. The debate is over they exist.

The question is how do we make contact, or otherwise 'invite' them back, so we can all meet face to face?

I propose we invite them to the opening ceremonies at the next Olympics. In my exuberant youth, I came to the conclusion that they would show up, just as soon as most of the world was looking at one place... Digitally speaking, we are almost capable of focusing global attention on a singular spot.

How else would one go about reaching out to them?

Does anyone know if the large pictograms worked out for the Nazca?

How should we, as the human race, reach out?


If aliens were already here what makes you sure they all up and left? They could still be here among us. Even their ships could be in warp state. If that is the case then there is no need to reach out. :D
 
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If aliens were already here what makes you sure they all up and left? They could still be here among us. Even their ships could be in warp state. If that is the case then there is no need to reach out. :D

Could you define or explain "warp state"?
 
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The state of being warped or twisted? If you go by ermm some people's claims of seeing all those flying discs pop in and out. How else could they appear and disappear so quickly? We have to think logically here.
 
First, there are granite, diorite, and sandstone quarries in Bolivia. I am 90% certain that 'some' of the stones at Puma Punku are diorite. I am also certain that some are made of sandstone. In my searches I have seen sources that say both, and both stones are common to the local geology.

Second, what I said was that whoever did that had advance technology.

The accuracy of the work itself is awesome, but when you think about how many 'master masons' it must have taken, then the whole project takes on another meaning. There had to have been a way of mass producing these things. They fit together like perfect stone legos, hundreds of them.

They look like they came out of a mold, rather than being individually carved.


So... anyway... the Egyptians?
 

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