Wake up West. Wake up Obama. Islamic filth is coming to your town.

DC said:
in the internet
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Internet was not one of the two group of people we were comparing.

We were comparing 1.3 billion Muslims around the globe to the people of the Western world minus Muslims

Let's not change the debate.
 
timf1234 said:
Internet was not one of the two group of people we were comparing.

We were comparing 1.3 billion Muslims around the globe to the people of the Western world minus Muslims

Let's not change the debate.
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i have no problem with the vast majority of those moslems.
 
DC said:
what question?
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Following was the question and you gave the wrong answer.
I guess, you never have taken multiple choice question.

Originally Posted by DC
Today's Religious Mind's Value system is inferior to that of the Atheists.
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Tim wrote:
And where do you find higher percentage of atheists?
In the West or in those 57 OIC so called countries?
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DC Wrote:
"....in the internet."
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timf1234 said:
Don't tell me about working class.

Do you ever realize that the benefit to the mankind from one or just few smart people is more than a million just working class effort combined?
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You do realize, don't you, that someone has to actually do some labor to make any of those astounding inventions useful?

If that is true then who should be rewarded hugely?
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Those who actually do the labor that produces the products that the inventors dream up deserve a decent day's provisions for a day's work.

I think I am begining to see what you most despise about Islam. It is anti-laissez-faire-capitalist.

Ayn Rand has perverted your thought processes.

Most of the working class are pretty close to parasites in the society. They add very little value to the benefit of mankind.
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Utter rubbish.

We are not going to apologize to you because we are good, we are better, faster, smarter than you are. You take your incompetent people and go to a new planet. And then don't come back begging for our help when an asteroid is about to collide your planet. We will be able to save you but you can't save yourself.
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You seem to think that without the capitalists nothing woulld ever get done. Capitalism is a relatively new phenomenon. Work gets done without the investor class. Their purpose is just to move the resources around to where they are needed. Being rich does not make you worth more than another person.
 
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timf1234 said:
Following was the question and you gave the wrong answer.
I guess, you never have taken multiple choice question.

Originally Posted by DC


Tim wrote:


DC Wrote:
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i don't know of polls about atheism in OIC countries.
but the most atheists are in China.
 
DC said:
i don't know of polls about atheism in OIC countries.
but the most atheists are in China.
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China is not OIC.
If you do not know that the percentage of atheists in the West (Europe) and even in the US is much higher than OIC countries then I shouldn't be surprised if you tell me the Earth is flat.

No wonder, you do not know what is Islamic Filth.
You have very little knowledge of the world we live in but you ought to have a definite opinion.
 
timf1234 said:
But you are still average 6 pack American drunken liberal Joe.
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Funny, I always thought Ryokan was a Norwegian Atheist Buddhist.

Not everyone fits into your ridiculous caricature of people whose politics are not yours.
 
timf1234 said:
To all the liberal's lobotomized brain,


Don't tell me about working class.

Do you ever realize that the benefit to the mankind from one or just few smart people is more than a million just working class effort combined?

If that is true then who should be rewarded hugely?

Now, here is the test for your lobotomized liberal brain.

Imagine, only one city without electricity just for a week. How chaotic, how difficult life is going to be?
Now, think of Thomas Alpha Edison and/or Mr. Tesla discovery and commercialization of electricity. Add all the benefit the entire wire is reaping around thousands of city.

Now think about the invention and commercialization of automobile, penicillin, Aircraft, formulation of the concept of human rights, liberty, freedom of expression, computers, the list goes on and on......

What you see around you and enjoyment you are having is due to less than 1% of the people in the world.
How much did your working class contribute? Very little.

Most of the working class are pretty close to parasites in the society. They add very little value to the benefit of mankind.Working class are already getting more than what they deserve.
Stop stealing my money to give it to the incompetent, people with poor value system. Stop your hand out to put these working class in your life support system so that they can vote for you, so that you can keep getting elected.

It is in your interest to keep the low people low so that you can have your power. You do not have their interest in your heart. You want their votes, so allow illegal immigrant. You want their vote so keep them low and dependent on your handout.

You need to encourage and reward the good, strong, wealthy, industrialist who add value to the society.

Read Ayn Rand philosophy.

We are not going to apologize to you because we are good, we are better, faster, smarter than you are. You take your incompetent people and go to a new planet. And then don't come back begging for our help when an asteroid is about to collide your planet. We will be able to save you but you can't save yourself.

We do not want quota system.
We do not want preferential favoritism.
We want competition and justice.
You breed parasites. We bread doer, movers, shakers, creative, industrialists.
Even your company is bad for the society.

We will never stop the pursuit of excellence.
I aint apologizing because I am too good for you, liberal morons.
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I hope you don't buy groceries from a grocery store, get your car fixed at a shop, ride a bus, drive on roads that are built by construction workers, wear clothes bought from a local retailer, use toilet paper... I think you get the picture. You just put down all the people who allow you to live your life as you do right now, which really isn't very kind. You probably bought the computer you are using from someone in "the working class". All the people who make these wonderful contributions to society have only been able to do so because people from "the working class" take care of their other needs for them. If they had to grow their own food, sew their own clothes, and pump their own water then they probably wouldn't have time to do what they do.
 
leftysergeant said:
You do realize, don't you, that someone has to actually do some labor to make any of those astounding inventions useful?

Those who actually do the labor that produces the products that the inventors dream up deserve a decent day's provisions for a day's work.

I think I am begining to see what you most despise about Islam. It is anti-laissez-faire-capitalist.

Ayn Rand has perverted your thought processes.



Utter rubbish.



You seem to think that without the capitalists nothing woulld ever get done. Capitalism is a relatively new phenomenon. Work gets done without the investor class. Their purpose is just to move the resources around to where they are needed. Being rich does not make you worth more than another person.
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Of course, workingclass has to work.
That is why I am not advocating to kill them (the working class) or be unfair to them but just don't take my money to put life support system to extend their bad behavior, idea, habits, thoughts, and value system.

Plus, remember, we can build robots to replace dumb human. But I can't replace smart human with robots that easily.

Decent wage?
What is that? Whatever market bare should be defined as decent wage. Never ever forget that.

You liberals are destroying the Western value system.

Yes, Capitalism is relatively new phenomenon. I am praising this new Western value. I am not advocating pre-Galileo era West.

It is not only about rich but also about smart, creative, perseverance, just.
What is justice?
Learn from nature: whoever produces things that others wants should survive and thrive, that is fair and just. Learn from natural selection and survival for the fittest.

NO, it is not only moving resources around. As a matter of fact smart, creative, industrialist creates resources out of the things that you never thought would be resources. I am advocating creation.

You bleeding heart but brain less liberals, lobotomized:
Today our life expectancy is twice as much as what it used to be a century ago. This is did not happen due to billions of working class in the world but happened for few smart scientists.

Look around, the thing you enjoy is mostly due to less than 1% people of the world.

Take your dumb working class in a different planet.
Given us some time we will create genetically engineered robots to replace you and your liberals working class buddies. And these synthetic humanoid won't even ask wages, no break time, no law suit either. How about that?

This should shut you up.

Yap, I am for excellence, competition, creativity, hard work, good value system.

You liberals thought you can change the life of Africans by dropping UNO plane loads of food for the hungry in Rwanda, Zambia, Uganda, Zaire, Southern Sudan etc? Your policy is a measurable failure. Nothing has changed in those countries.

You liberals want to sleep well by showing sympathy, by feeding the hungry.
You have been feeding the body. Have you ever thought about feeding their soul? Feed the soul = fixing their value system. That is the foundation.

Your brainless bleeding heart (progressive liberals like Obama) love to do moral masturbation.

Now, you are destroying good old American value by giving out handout to incompetents.

Read Sam Harris book Moral Landscape. Science/reason should define morality.
 
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I hope you don't buy groceries from a grocery store, get your car fixed at a shop, ride a bus, drive on roads that are built by construction workers, wear clothes bought from a local retailer, use toilet paper... I think you get the picture. You just put down all the people who allow you to live your life as you do right now, which really isn't very kind. You probably bought the computer you are using from someone in "the working class". All the people who make these wonderful contributions to society have only been able to do so because people from "the working class" take care of their other needs for them. If they had to grow their own food, sew their own clothes, and pump their own water then they probably wouldn't have time to do what they do.
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I responded to your issues in my response to leftysergeant above.
 
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timf1234 said:
Of course, workingclass has to work.
That is why I am not advocating to kill them (the working class) or be unfair to them but just don't take my money to put life support system to extend their bad behavior, idea, habits, thoughts, and value system.
Plus, remember, we can build robots to replace dumb human. But I can't replace smart human with robots that easily.Decent wage?
What is that? Whatever market bare should be defined as decent wage. Never ever forget that.

You liberals are destroying the Western value system.

Yes, Capitalism is relatively new phenomenon. I am praising this new Western value. I am not advocating pre-Galileo era West.

It is not only about rich but also about smart, creative, perseverance, just.
What is justice?
Learn from nature: whoever produces things that others wants should survive and thrive, that is fair and just. Learn from natural selection and survival for the fittest.

NO, it is not only moving resources around. As a matter of fact smart, creative, industrialist creates resources out of the things that you never thought would be resources. I am advocating creation.

You bleeding heart but brain less liberals, lobotomized:Today our life expectancy is twice as much as what it used to be a century ago. This is did not happen due to billions of working class in the world but happened for few smart scientists.

Look around, the thing you enjoy is mostly due to less than 1% people of the world.Take your dumb working class in a different planet.
Given us some time we will create genetically engineered robots to replace you and your liberals working class buddies. And these synthetic humanoid won't even ask wages, no break time, no law suit either. How about that?

This should shut you up.

Yap, I am for excellence, competition, creativity, hard work, good value system.

You liberals thought you can change the life of Africans by dropping UNO plane loads of food for the hungry in Rwanda, Zambia, Uganda, Zaire, Southern Sudan etc? Your policy is a measurable failure. Nothing has changed in those countries.

You liberals want to sleep well by showing sympathy, by feeding the hungry.
You have been feeding the body. Have you ever thought about feeding their soul? Feed the soul = fixing their value system. That is the foundation.

Your brainless bleeding heart (progressive liberals like Obama) love to do moral masturbation.

Now, you are destroying good old American value by giving out handout to incompetents.

Read Sam Harris book Moral Landscape. Science/reason should define morality.
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So 1% of the people of the world have made the world what is today? No. Prove it. Prove to me that that 1% has been solely responsible for that. Prove to me that they could have done it without the other 99%. Your numbers are useless and arbitrary.

Robots? No. The technology does not currently exist to replace every working class position in the world while still maintaining your current quality of life. If it does, prove it, but I know you can't.

Your elitist attitude is sickening to me.

Your "good old American value" was built on the backs of the working class too.

I'm not sure why you think the bolded phrases are necessary to prove your point. There is no "science or reason" to them.
 
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So what's your incredible contribution to society?
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My contribution to the society is proportional to the wealth I have created for myself.

If I did not contribute enough then I do not deserve more either.
But you on the other hand seems to advocating more reward for less contribution.

I say stop this unemployment benefit madness.
Stop the food stamp.
Stop socialized medicine/healthcare
Stop ideas like "Cash for Clunker"
Stop social security
Stop Medicare
Stop property tax

or at least minimize these.

I favor the flat tax. And the shocker, in my world, flat tax doesn't mean x% but $x. Period.
We should pay tax only for the services we get from the government.
If two people enjoying the same service then they both pay the same $x. Period.

As when I go to a restaurant to eat a rich or a poor pays same dollar amount for the food and services they get from the restaurant.

Then the rich can do the charity on their own choosing. Screw the government. As we got rid of King and Queen, now it is about time to get rid of un-necessary part of the government.

We are under no obligation to prolong the life of parasites.
 
timf1234 said:
My contribution to the society is proportional to the wealth I have created for myself.

If I did not contribute enough then I do not deserve more either.
But you on the other hand seems to advocating more reward for less contribution.I say stop this unemployment benefit madness.
Stop the food stamp.
Stop socialized medicine/healthcare
Stop ideas like "Cash for Clunker"
Stop social security
Stop Medicare
Stop property tax

or at least minimize these.

I favor the flat tax. And the shocker, in my world, flat tax doesn't mean x% but $x. Period.
We should pay tax only for the services we get from the government.
If two people enjoying the same service then they both pay the same $x. Period.

As when I go to a restaurant to eat a rich or a poor pays same dollar amount for the food and services they get from the restaurant.

Then the rich can do the charity on their own choosing. Screw the government. As we got rid of King and Queen, now it is about time to get rid of un-necessary part of the government.

We are under no obligation to prolong the life of parasites.
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I've only just joined the conversation, and I've said no such thing. I've said that you have no appreciation for the contributions of people who make your life such as it is as you go about living it. As a matter of fact, you seem to despise these people. What occupation do you hold? Are you a "mover and a shaker"? Or are you one of "the working class"? Come on, you must be a scientist or something, or else your entire argument is just a big pile of steaming self-hate.
 
ria_rokz said:
So 1% of the people of the world have made the world what is today? No. Prove it. Prove to me that that 1% has been solely responsible for that. Prove to me that they could have done it without the other 99%. Your numbers are useless and arbitrary.

Robots? No. The technology does not currently exist to replace every working class position in the world while still maintaining your current quality of life. If it does, prove it, but I know you can't.

Your elitist attitude is sickening to me.

Your "good old American value" was built on the backs of the working class too.

I'm not sure why you think the bolded phrases are necessary to prove your point. There is no "science or reason" to them.
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Of course, my 1% is arbitrary but the concept stands in principle.

Here is the proof.
If you moron, lazy bomb, 6 pack joe, with bad value system, rotten apple, spoiled by government handout, if you (brainless liberals) will not accept my (our) $4.00/hr. wages to manufacture my (our) inventions then I will take my (our) factory to China and India, screw you, idiot.

Then you will extend unemployment benefit for another year to your lazy buddies until you bankrupt America and then will have to listen to China and India. It is high time that you progressive change your attitude before you destroy America and live as world's 3rd class citizen.
 
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