Childlike Empress
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You know perfectly well that the data is faked, Farmer. Read some interesting quotes of yours lately. Anyway, that's not my area of interest, just providing the counter argument. Have fun.
Flight AA77 on 9/11
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BCR
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No, my 'quotes' were speculation and I qualified them as such. I do not know the FDR to be 'faked'. Quite the contrary, it is virtually impossible to fake it and have it exhibit normality and such close correlation with other data sets at the same time.
Changing a few non-compressed data fields in an fdr file is easy. The compressed data file is something altogether different and that is the meat-and-potatoes of the thing
Childlike Empress
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If this would be a genuine data set they would not leave it to amateurs/private investigators to "decode" it. They would take care that it's not misinterpreted.
DGM
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Why? It was not important to the investigation.
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DGM
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Public who? Can you show me some public outcry that would warrant a full investigation into the actual track of the plane to where it ended up. ALL the physical evidence answers that question.
What exactly is the limit on what you need to ignore before you start thinking you might be wrong?
Childlike Empress
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Well, if there's no controversy, DGM, and the public doesn't demand answers, I wonder what it is you waste your life with? Dead is da twoof and yet da duhbunkies keep on pantomime debunking. Curious.
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BCR
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They did "decode" it CE. Then they turned it over to the FBI. It was a criminal investigation, not an accident investigation. We are talking about the final 4 - 5 seconds of data. They did not require that data. They had the plane (or what was left of it) inside the Pentagon. They did not have to go on public forums and play super-sleuth.
The data has always been there in the file. I for one did not need the remaining data since what I had correlated with the other data. It is nice to have and I greatly appreciate Warren cracking the algorithm to finally have access to it.
People like you don't phase me a bit any more. Back in 2007 when I discovered the 'missing data', I was raked over quite a bit by 'truthers' and that is why I no longer hang in that crowd. So take your pick who you want to listen to. Those of us who have been consistently right, or those who have been consistently wrong. No skin off my knuckles either way.
DGM
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Mostly I "waste my life" playing golf or skiing (season depending of course). "Da-twoof" is just something to pass the time at work.
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LOL what possible use would it be to the investigation? And if it was faked why wouldn't they simply fake it without errors. They are so smart to have staged all 911 but can't fake a data field???
Why even admit the FDR data survived at all?
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Sabretooth
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Funny...Balsamo is having a woody because PrisonPlanet is running it on their frontpage today.
Anyway, there are a couple things that I wanted to ask you guys about:
I’ve never worked with Radio Alts. Is Dennis being accurate in their measuring capabilities? Even if he is right, it doesn’t mean the RA wouldn’t be recording some sort of reliable data, correct? Also, where did he make up the crap about 480 knots being “well outside the capabilities of a standard 757”?
And then this BS…in his follow up post:
If he was trying to make himself sound legit, he certainly destroyed that with this stupid piles of words. This just makes him sound like pure crazy. So all those bodies from 77 were planted after the fact? WTF?
And then!:
First of all, I find this funny because it comes up completely out of context. Second, we have a truther (Dennis) blowing up the statements of a con (April) who used that info to sue AA. Can truthers ever get their stories right?
Anyway, this Dennis guy sounds a whole bunch looney…I had to laugh reading the “pat on the back” responses that follow his diatribe of nonsense.
Anyway, there are a couple things that I wanted to ask you guys about:
Dennis Cimino said:
I’ve never worked with Radio Alts. Is Dennis being accurate in their measuring capabilities? Even if he is right, it doesn’t mean the RA wouldn’t be recording some sort of reliable data, correct? Also, where did he make up the crap about 480 knots being “well outside the capabilities of a standard 757”?
And then this BS…in his follow up post:
Dennis Cimino said:
If he was trying to make himself sound legit, he certainly destroyed that with this stupid piles of words. This just makes him sound like pure crazy. So all those bodies from 77 were planted after the fact? WTF?
And then!:
Dennis Cimino said:
First of all, I find this funny because it comes up completely out of context. Second, we have a truther (Dennis) blowing up the statements of a con (April) who used that info to sue AA. Can truthers ever get their stories right?
Anyway, this Dennis guy sounds a whole bunch looney…I had to laugh reading the “pat on the back” responses that follow his diatribe of nonsense.
I do not know the manufacturer of the Radar Altimeter in American 757's, however, the Radar Altimeters I have worked with were good beyond Mach 1.2. That is not just a manufacturing specification...... I have flown them at slightly more than 1.2.
Additionally, Balsamo is setting up a strawman here. It is common knowledge that Radar Altimeters measure what is beneath the antenna as long as it will provide a return of the signal. It does not have to be the ground. A return from a tree would be a transient. Because of the FDR sampling rate it is impossible to determine exactly what AA77's RA was measuring from. Of course, Balsamo's contention is that it could be measuring the last signal from the roof of the Pentagon. There is really no way to determine exactly what it was measuring at that 4' height without knowing the exact position of the aircraft via other means. It's his usual half truth BS to deceive the layman.
The speed of AA77 was past Vmo briefly. This is just his continuation of the fake Vg crap he has spread in several forums to include here. It's discussed in another thread.
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funk de fino
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You have been completely and utterly had. It is hilarious.
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Because and unlike the 'truthers' the investigators are an honest lot knowing that any errors they make can (and will be) picked up by those following the case.
CE and the others are looking for uncrossed T's and undotted i's
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Farmer,
Is it at all possible the FDR data came from the plane that was following the 757?
Is it at all possible the FDR data came from the plane that was following the 757?
Sabretooth
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Someone just has to Stundie this one!
Wow, you said you would not be posting much more, it was going to be a Childlike Empress free zone, and here you are spreading moronic lies and delusions. Good job, I see you lied about being scarce, and you have no clue this dolt is a liar who makes up nonsense.
I flew a Boeing jet past Vmo, the RADAR Altimeter worked. I have flown over 350 knots, I was 500 to 600 feet above the ground, the RAD/ALT read 500 to 600 feet. This guy is a moron, a Balsamo nut case expert, who has to lie to keep up his paranoid nut case conspiracy theories, like the ones you have.
The RADAR Altimeter works at the speed of light, this means for aircraft the RAD/ALT will work and report the distance at all possible speeds. That being said, the way the RADAR altimeter is used, it is installed and checked out for landing, and those speeds are below 200 knots. I agree for time of flight a RADAR altimeter is used, it is installed to be accurate for landing, and in use in landing systems. However, it works great at all speeds. We have Balsamo making up lies for morons again. Thanks for posting it, you continued to be fooled and taken by morons.
You made no comments; ? because you have no clue you posted lies and moronic delusions; again.
Flight Data Recorder Expert Dennis Cimino is a moron on this issue, I flew a Boeing jet, and the RADAR altimeter reads relative height above the ground at speeds past Vmo. Case closed. Unless you think RADAR Altimeter have been dumbed down by Balsamo's expert on woo.
Balsamo "offer no theory" moron club of lies continue, as debunker socks post at p4tf, disguised as "nut case conspiracy theorist", insulting Balsamo without his knowledge. It is funny, many of the posters at pilots for truth forum insult Balsamo, and he has no clue he was insulted.
No theory? What the heck are the lies Dennis makes up? Idiots. The idiotic lies Balsamo has to fling to sell DVD to morons.
Reheat and other F-111 speed demons have flown low, some very fast, faster than MACH1. Their RADAR Altimeter worked, Dennis is wrong, and he never said much anyway. The RADAR altimeter works in radio/microwave frequencies at the speed of LIGHT, not sound! Poor Dennis is making up delusions to fool people so they can share his insane conspiracy theories. The RADAR altimeter will still function at all speeds, even the speeds Balsamo claims a 757 can't do, even when it did. How stupid is Balsamo?
This comes down to math; Balsamo can't do math.