Wake up West. Wake up Obama. Islamic filth is coming to your town.

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50,000 people showed up in a rally in Pakistan to show support for the killer Mr. Qadir, who shot Mr. Teseer 40 times on his back. Mr. Tesser was the Governor of Pakistan's largest province, Punjab. Mr. Teseer fault: he was against the Blasphemy law.

Another 1,000 Pakistani lawyers signed resolution supporting the Blasphemy law.

http://www.dawn.com/2010/12/16/campaign-launched-to-protect-blasphemy-law.html

Here is the detail.

This is a sincere attempt to warn and wake up the West.
If you like this post then please repost it all over the net.

Ref.: http://www.project-reason.org/newsfeed/item/in_pakistan_the_shooter_is_the_hero/

Muslims are the first victim of Islam.
Let’s help Muslims and ourselves by finding a vaccine to the Islamic Memetic Mental Virus.
Remember, we did not win the war on bacteria (European Bubonic Plague) with guns, fighter jets, bombs or aircraft carriers. We did it by understanding the science behind it and attacking the germ itself. In this case the germ is not the Muslim, nor the terror but the Islamic Meme. Muslims are the first victim of Islam. My whole family are victim of this. There are many thousands like me are living in the West. Western governments are not consulting us. Government would rather consult the Trojan horses.

@Sam0117
[And for everyone to read and be aware of what you are dealing with.]
Please read this article in the Pakistani News Paper:
http://tribune.com.pk/story/42158/pakistans-human-cockroaches/
Or just Google for “Pakistani Human Cockroach” and read it.

Wake up, West
My objective has less to do with Sam but more to do with warning the kind hearted, mostly just minded but gullible Westerner. Millions of Trojan, like Sam, or Tariq Ramandan, or Riza Aslan, or CAIR, ISNA, MSA playing taqiyaa (deception) taking the West for a free ride.

Visit http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/


Read this.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2004/09/islam-will-rule-the-world.html

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Not all muslims are bad. Not all muslims think every word of the quran need to be followed to the letter, in the same way all christians don't think the bible is the direct word of god. It seems like you got a religious axe to grind, coupled with some bizarre form of mysticism. I don't think you found a good place, in these forums, to propagate your message.
 
Mister Earl said:
Not all muslims are bad. Not all muslims think every word of the quran need to be followed to the letter, in the same way all christians don't think the bible is the direct word of god. It seems like you got a religious axe to grind, coupled with some bizarre form of mysticism. I don't think you found a good place, in these forums, to propagate your message.
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Does "Statistic" mean something to you?
Please re-read my post carefully.

What percentage of Christians in the US or in Europe think the punishment for blasphemy is death?
And what percentage of Muslims believes so?
Ans.: overwhelming majority. Check out PEW research poll.

I did not say all Muslims, I said 95% or so.
 
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If you so easily condemn 95% of muslims just because of some poll, then you are a fool and worse. Give me a link to your poll, I'll look over it. I'm sure it's garbage, but I'll look anyway.
 
I dunno what he means bout most of the stuff but I recognized the Taqiyya thingy.

After 911 I had checked into Islam and under Taqiyya they can even deny their Muslim faith (pretty sure that's why they had to waterboard a couple of em) or pose as individuals of another faith.

In Non-Judea Christianity you cannot deny Christ or God.

A lot of the seemingly nice Muslims are nice and don't believe in Taqiyya and others are using Taqiyya and intentionally acting nice til it is their turn to strike.
There is actually no way of knowing til it is too late.

I giggle reading posts of people trying to figure out why Radical Muslims hate the West so much. Just shows how they do not understand Islam at all and most never will since they think all religion is woo anyways. One thread thought it was because they couldn't please themselves sexually LOL.

A sleep for sure.

That was the West's first mistake; not trying to comprehend the religion but grouping it with all the others just because it is considered an Abrahamic faith.

As for the OP how the heck can you stare into people souls through the CPU?

I have never heard of that before.
 
USEagle13 said:
I dunno what he means bout most of the stuff but I recognized the Taqiyya thingy.

After 911 I had checked into Islam and under Taqiyya they can even deny their Muslim faith (pretty sure that's why they had to waterboard a couple of em) or pose as individuals of another faith.

In Non-Judea Christianity you cannot deny Christ or God.
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Of course you can. You're not supposed to, there are rules in the belief system against it, but to imply that a Christian couldn't deny god actually goes against scripture. Peter did it three times.
 
timf1234 said:
Does "Statistic" mean something to you?
Please re-read my post carefully.

What percentage of Christians in the US or in Europe think the punishment for blasphemy is death?
And what percentage of Muslims believes so?
Ans.: overwhelming majority. Check out PEW research poll.

I did not say all Muslims, I said 95% or so.
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I would like to see some evidence of this claim.
 
slingblade said:
Of course you can. You're not supposed to, there are rules in the belief system against it, but to imply that a Christian couldn't deny god actually goes against scripture. Peter did it three times.
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I worded it wrong sorry.

In Islam it is not against scripture to deny your faith (Taqiyya).

In Christianity it is against scripture to deny your faith.
 
timf1234 said:
Does "Statistic" mean something to you?
Please re-read my post carefully.

What percentage of Christians in the US or in Europe think the punishment for blasphemy is death?
And what percentage of Muslims believes so?
Ans.: overwhelming majority. Check out PEW research poll.

I did not say all Muslims, I said 95% or so.
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Huh, that's odd. According to Bloomberg 90% of pakistanis see this sort of extremism as a problem:
About 90 percent of nearly 5,000 Pakistanis polled (PDF) in July and August 2009 said religious extremism is a serious problem in the country, the Washington-based International Republican Institute, which carried out the survey, said.
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Also, a recent Pew study, perhaps the one you refer to, does find religious persecution is significantly higher in Muslim-majority nations. But, there is no discussion of what proportion "think the punishment for blasphemy is death". In fact, they point out:
Most Muslim believers want religious principles and democratic values to coexist, John Esposito, a professor of international affairs at Georgetown University, said in a paper for the Association of Religion Data Archives. Esposito explored Gallup Poll data from 2001-2007, encompassing a survey sample including more than 90 percent of the world's Muslims.

Significant majorities of Muslims in many countries said religious leaders should play no direct role in legislation, foreign policy or restricting freedom of the press. Citizens in countries in which Muslims are a majority said they want greater political freedoms and rule of law, Esposito said.
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So, what are you on about, again?
 
timf1234 said:
50,000 people showed up in a rally in Pakistan to show support for the killer Mr. Qadir, who shot Mr. Teseer 40 times on his back. Mr. Tesser was the Governor of Pakistan's largest province, Punjab. Mr. Teseer fault: he was against the Blasphemy law.

Another 1,000 Pakistani lawyers signed resolution supporting the Blasphemy law.

http://www.dawn.com/2010/12/16/campaign-launched-to-protect-blasphemy-law.html

Here is the detail.

This is a sincere attempt to warn and wake up the West.
If you like this post then please repost it all over the net.

Ref.: http://www.project-reason.org/newsfeed/item/in_pakistan_the_shooter_is_the_hero/

Muslims are the first victim of Islam.
Let’s help Muslims and ourselves by finding a vaccine to the Islamic Memetic Mental Virus.
Remember, we did not win the war on bacteria (European Bubonic Plague) with guns, fighter jets, bombs or aircraft carriers. We did it by understanding the science behind it and attacking the germ itself. In this case the germ is not the Muslim, nor the terror but the Islamic Meme. Muslims are the first victim of Islam. My whole family are victim of this. There are many thousands like me are living in the West. Western governments are not consulting us. Government would rather consult the Trojan horses.

@Sam0117
[And for everyone to read and be aware of what you are dealing with.]
Please read this article in the Pakistani News Paper:
http://tribune.com.pk/story/42158/pakistans-human-cockroaches/
Or just Google for “Pakistani Human Cockroach” and read it.

Wake up, West
My objective has less to do with Sam but more to do with warning the kind hearted, mostly just minded but gullible Westerner. Millions of Trojan, like Sam, or Tariq Ramandan, or Riza Aslan, or CAIR, ISNA, MSA playing taqiyaa (deception) taking the West for a free ride.

Visit http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/


Read this.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2004/09/islam-will-rule-the-world.html

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Removed material availble via links
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We have already a cure for Religious Memetic Mental Virus.
Its called reality and science.
 
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DC said:
We have already a cure for Religious Memetic Mental Virus.
Its called reality and science.
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How would you implement it?
Your vaccine will offend the victims you are trying to help.
May be you need to read about Ayn Rand and watch her YouTube videos and visit "Naturalism" websites.

You have to give the drunk another drink otherwise they won't elect you in the office. You have to continue to provide food stamp, extended unemployment benefit, free healthcare and of course sweet talk so that they can maintain their cognitive consonant. You have to get elected, don't you?
 
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timf1234 said:
How would you implement it?
Your vaccine will offend the victims you are trying to help.

You have to give the drunk another drink otherwise they won't elect you in the office. You have to continue to provide food stamp, extended unemployment benefit, free healthcare and of course sweet talk so that they can maintain their cognitive consonant. You have to get elected, don't you?
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in small doses over huge time spans, it worked with other religions as well.
 
timf1234 said:
"huge time spans" ?
Meanwhile they will be keep killing and keep taking our freedom of speech.
By that time demography will change so much may be they will change you and me instead.

http://www.dawn.com/2011/01/18/govt-not-amending-blasphemy-law-says-pm.html

http://www.dawn.com/2011/01/18/govt-not-amending-blasphemy-law-says-pm.html
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the vast majority of Muslim do not kill. Nor do they threaten my freedom of speech, here it goes more into the other direction, here they get discriminated against.
And most of their children that are going to school here, end up being much less religious than their parents, and in a few generations they are as secular as most here.

We have much more important problems to solve. Climate Change for example.
 
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USEagle13 said:
I worded it wrong sorry.

In Islam it is not against scripture to deny your faith (Taqiyya).

In Christianity it is against scripture to deny your faith.
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It sounds like the Muslim version of God is more reasonable than the Christian version in this instance.

Muslim: "Allah, they will kill my family and me if they discover that we are Muslim."

Allah: Then conceal your faith so that you and your family may be protected from their violence.


Christian: "Jesus, they will kill my family and me if they discover that we are Christian."

Jesus: "Gee, that's too bad. I guess you're all going to be tortured to death, because if you deny me, even to protect your children from harm, I'll hold it against you."
 
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