Gaza - A 5 Star Concentration Camp *****

[bigjelmapro]

The United Nations, the EU, Russia, China, and most other nations on Earth recognize Israel as a soverieign and legitimate state. And they recognize Israel's legitimate and legal borders to be the cease-fire lines of 1949.
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Green line isn't a de facto border, never was, never will be. They are voided armistice lines.

Spamming this above drivel of yours won't make it any truer, which applies to Bishadi's concentration camp definition and its application to Gaza as well.

 

[a_unique_person]

Green line isn't a de facto border, never was, never will be. They are voided armistice lines.

According to Oslo, it was. Israel signed up even.

 

[The Fool]

Green line isn't a de facto border, never was, never will be. They are voided armistice lines.

Spamming this above drivel of yours won't make it any truer, which applies to Bishadi's concentration camp definition and its application to Gaza as well.

what voided the green line?

 

[Safe-Keeper]

and castro was considered a dictator and hamas is considered a terrorist org.

Wow. That is all.

 

[Mycroft]

According to Oslo, it was. Israel signed up even.

I read that agreement and don't remember that part.

Can you cite it for us?

 

[bigjelmapro]

According to Oslo, it was. Israel signed up even.

If Oslo states such a thing, then perhaps you would like to share it.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

11 pages, and Bishadi is still spamming the same definition in hopes that the Goerring law will take effect.

What is the Göring Law? The idea that if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes accepted?

 

[UWdude]

Come to Gaza!

It's not Auschwitz!

 

[IDB87]

Come to Gaza!

It's not Auschwitz!

Come to Auschwitz - it's not Gaza?

 

[Safe-Keeper]

Come to Gaza!

It's not Auschwitz!

Moo?

 

[Mycroft]

If Oslo states such a thing, then perhaps you would like to share it.

Crickets chirping on that one, huh?

 

[bigjelmapro]

Crickets chirping on that one, huh?

As is usually the case by AUP. I'm sure he'll come back trying to backpedal something different.

 

[The Fool]

Crickets chirping on that one, huh?

no...the crickets are chirping on this....

"what voided the green line?"

Bigjell likes to describe the Greenline as voided..I'm just curious as to how he reaches this conclusion.

 

[Thunder]

no...the crickets are chirping on this....

"what voided the green line?"

Bigjell likes to describe the Greenline as voided..I'm just curious as to how he reaches this conclusion.

Is appears that according to the CIA Factbook, the 1949 Armistice Line is still very much in effect.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/maps/maptemplate_is.html

Oh, and look, according to the Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics, the Armistice Line is still very real (adjusted to include the annexation of part of the West Bank to create "East Jerusalem, of course).

http://gis.cbs.gov.il/shnaton59/all_israel2008.pdf

And what's this? A map of Israel from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, showing the Green Line? how can this be?

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Facts+About+Israel/Israel+in+Maps/Judea+and+Samaria.htm

ah, maybe this little article from Wikipedia can explain it all:

The Green Line is not an international or permanent border. Justice Stephen M. Schwebel, who was a judge of the International Court of Justice at The Hague for 19 years, including three years as its president, wrote: "...modifications of the 1949 armistice lines among those States within former Palestinian territory are lawful (if not necessarily desirable), whether those modifications are...'insubstantial alterations required for mutual security' or more substantial alterations - such as recognition of Israeli sovereignty over the whole of Jerusalem." In a footnote, he wrote: "It should be added that the armistice agreements of 1949 expressly preserved the territorial claims of all parties and did not purport to establish definitive boundaries between them." [3]

While the line is a temporary border, in practice it is used to differentiate between those areas which are administered as part of the State of Israel, and the areas outside it, which are administered by the Israeli military or the Palestinian National Authority.[4][5] The extended municipality of Jerusalem constitutes one exception to this: although the parts ruled by Jordan until 1967 fall outside the Green Line, Israel has informally annexed them according to the BasicJerusalem Law (1980).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Line_(Israel)

 

[bigjelmapro]

CIA factbook displays a 1949 armistice line and states nothing along its 'effect' and neither is this armistice line being used in practice.

Wiki article states exactly what it should:

The Green Line is not an international or permanent border.

MFA's map has this explanation in the beginning:

The maps contained in this publication are for illustrative purposes only and should not be considered authoritative.

Stating the existence of a voided armistice line is not the same as stating that its applicable in demarcating an international border, which, as stated in the wiki link, is "not an international or permanent border"

Welcome back and try again.

 

[The Fool]

CIA factbook displays a 1949 armistice line and states nothing along its 'effect' and neither is this armistice line being used in practice.

Wiki article states exactly what it should:



MFA's map has this explanation in the beginning:


Stating the existence of a voided armistice line is not the same as stating that its applicable in demarcating an international border, which, as stated in the wiki link, is "not an international or permanent border"

Welcome back and try again.

hey...you are correct. Its not a permanent border....from the same article "While the line is a temporary border"

once again...what voided it? A wiki article?

 

[a_unique_person]

As is usually the case by AUP. I'm sure he'll come back trying to backpedal something different.

Backpedal what. Everyone knew what the accord meant, a gradual withdrawal of the settlements, and the establishment of a Palestinian state in the WB and Gaza, with a connecting corridor of some sort. Netanyahu knew what it meant, that was why he and others immediately set out to subvert it, as he in his own words. Rabin was assassinated. His assassin knew what it meant.

 

[bigjelmapro]

Backpedal what. Everyone knew what the accord meant, a gradual withdrawal of the settlements, and the establishment of a Palestinian state in the WB and Gaza, with a connecting corridor of some sort. Netanyahu knew what it meant, that was why he and others immediately set out to subvert it, as he in his own words. Rabin was assassinated. His assassin knew what it meant.

Above is case and point of backpedalling of your prior statment:

Green line isn't a de facto border, never was, never will be. They are voided armistice lines.

According to Oslo, it was. Israel signed up even.

Did you find where Olso states that the 1949 armistice lines are de facto borders between Israel and a future Palestinian state?

Guess not, hence the backpedalling above. Thanks for proving my point once again.

 

[a_unique_person]

As is usually the case by AUP. I'm sure he'll come back trying to backpedal something different.

Backpedal what. Everyone knew what the accord meant, a gradual withdrawal of the settlements, and the establishment of a Palestinian state in the WB and Gaza, with a connecting corridor of some sort. Where in the accord did it say that Netanyahu could use his dishonesty to expand settlements?

 

[a_unique_person]

Here is the Stormont agreement on Northern Ireland. http://www.nio.gov.uk/agreement.pdf I can't find anywhere in it that actually says what the actual border is. Everyone knew what it was, though.