Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

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DOC said:
First of all I want to know why he is using the word proof in this thread. This thread is about evidence not proof. Currently there is no proof for Christianity but there is plenty of evidence. This is similar to abiogenesis (the life from non-life theory), there is some evidence but no proof.
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So am I right to assume you would have agreed with the statement if it said "evidence" instead of "proof"?*



DOC said:
ETA But the bible does say without faith it is impossible to please God, so it would seem God doesn't want us to have definite proof regarding religion.
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Yeah, but the bible says a lot of things. It isn't really a great source for logic, reason or morality.

For instance, the Atheist Philosopher, Peter Singer, who you stated as having extremely troubling moral views, supports the idea of everyone donating (especially the rich) large percentages of their wealth to the poor and less fortunate.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/17/ma...IFj6Vzp9pg A
This troubling concept was also advocated in the bible. (Matthew 19:16-28)
Indeed, it seems that many Christians today have realized just how this moral view is.
 
DOC, enough!

If you really have any credible "Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth" then answer the simple question that's been put to you repeatedly.

How did Simon The Zealot die?*

If there is "Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth" this should be an easy answer, so stop the smoke and mirrors, stop the obfuscation and answer the bloody question.

If you post in this thread again, without answering this question, you obviously have no 'evidence'... so, case closed!



*Extra-biblical, historical evidence MUST be provided.


This is your time DOC, your 15 minutes, put up or shut up! It's your choice.




I hate all this fonty, boldy, coloury nonsense, but it's the only way to get through to fundies!
 
zooterkin said:
To be fair, any evidence would have to be extra-biblical, since the bible doesn't give any account of his death. :) "Historical" is another matter, of course.
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Yeah, I knew that, but I remembered how he can strangle the verses in the babble to fit whatever point he's trying to make at the time. You know what I mean, like how the different Genesis accounts can be made to fit the scientific understanding of how the solar system was formed, ergo the New Testament is true.:boggled:
 
welshdean said:
Yeah, I knew that, but I remembered how he can strangle the verses in the babble to fit whatever point he's trying to make at the time. You know what I mean, like how the different Genesis accounts can be made to fit the scientific understanding of how the solar system was formed, ergo the New Testament is true.:boggled:
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:D
 
Kapyong said:
Best SELLING?
It's GIVEN AWAY for FREE !
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Last weekend I found a little New Testament with a folded-up tract tucked in it. At first, I thought 'someone left their bible on a pharmacy shelf' and then it hit me. First time in my life, except for the people who used to hand out Chick Tracts outside of rock concerts. What a waste of money and paper.
 
joobz said:
In context of his data, that's not true.
He counted 8 post about him in 3 or 4 pages (strange that he wouldn't know if he looked at 3 pages or 4 pages, but ok).
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True, and I admit I was mostly having a bit of fun at DOC's expense. I'd still argue that his reference to 'this 441 page thread' suggested a lack of awareness that page size was variable.

If we accept that the number of posts/page is constant (except for the most recent page), we can still use his reported value to determine the total number of posts about him.
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Although with a huge margin of error, given the incomplete last page, and the uncertainty over whether it's 3 or 4 pages (so, at 40 posts per page, between 81 and 159). ETA: Not to mention his apparent claim to be Simon the Zealot, too.
I support this analysis as it represents one of the few instances where DOC has provided actual evidence of something.
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:D
 
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Kapyong said:
Gday,

Best SELLING?
It's GIVEN AWAY for FREE !


K.
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I mentioned earlier that I think A Tale of Two Cities gets the gong for all-time best seller. What's more, it's all about London and Paris which are real places, and therefore it must be a true story.

I'm wondering if DOC will try claiming that there was no paper and no such thing as fiction in the time of Charles Dickens.
 
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DOC said:
But the bible does say without faith it is impossible to please God
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but we do not have a single piece of evidence that the bible its true when talking about the supernatural. There is no evidence for this God character. Every single piece you have presented has been shown to be incorrect or an example of logical fallacy.

Face it DOC, there is no God to please, and faith in him is misplaced.
 
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I'm sorry, did the originator of the thread "Evidence for why we know....." just tell us that God doesn't want us to have any? What a cop out - going down the hidden god route - a god that rewards gullibility and not reasoning/intelligence.
 
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