WTC7 and the NIST free fall failure

Here is a nice view of the east corner kinking north.
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...and if you look closely then you see the width of the core imprinted in the facade.
...and you see the west face contracting while the therd part of the core goes down.

Somehow the definition of implosion comes into mind.
 
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Dragon37 said:
For God's sake get to the point! What exactly are you trying to prove because your first post is not an answer. Asking questions is not an answer. Why F'ing hell can't deniers ever be straight with their damn answers instead of bloating up their comments with fluff? How about answering questions instead of beating around the bush or pulling the name-calling and condescension? Why do you all profess to be more knowledgeable than people who have been doing such work for years, perhaps decades? What makes your calculations/analysis more credible than those teams that worked on on this study? Did you use all the evidence they did or did you just use that which proves your theory? Are you working from the base that NIST is wrong or are you actually working from the same base NIST did, namely why did 7 WTC collapse? You should be working from the latter not the former.

... and so forth.

So far everything you have typed has been a waste of time because it doesn't actually impact upon the NIST initiation model. (BTW i note that when you deniers talk about the freefall you always seem to leave out any consideration of centre of gravity.)
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Did I ask any qustion? No.
I SAID FREE FALL!
Short. Straight. Down! Got it?

Obviously you are the one with some problem in understanding.

Copy and pasty your **** everywhere. Fits always.

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A W Smith said:
you did? I thought you said this.



i'm sure glad we got that cleared up. So you are saying building seven was imploded? Care to lay out how?
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im·plo·sion (m-plzhn) - a violent collapse inward

by what? by mass.

Anything else would be off topic, right?

What do you say about the topic? Any suggestion?

Do you think NIST did a failure or not? Why?
 
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achimspok said:
Did I ask any qustion? No.
I SAID FREE FALL!
Short. Straight. Down! Got it?

Obviously you are the one with some problem in understanding.

Copy and pasty your sh** everywhere. Fits always.

Btw, use the search function for "center of mass". Maybe you learn something (about yourself).
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Righto. Just a regurgitation of the collapsed into its footprint argument.

Avoid and handwave away any questions you can't answer.

Typical. Rude, condescending, and arrogant. You have no point, except post after post of fail.

Welcome to my ignore list
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achimspok said:
I disprove nothing, do I?
I just added a new aspect to the holy report.
Let's call it "faster than free fall buckling"?
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Is that some sort of space rodeo event? I like zero g hand ball myself.
 
Dragon37 said:
Righto. Just a regurgitation of the collapsed into its footprint argument.

Avoid and handwave away any questions you can't answer.

Typical. Rude, condescending, and arrogant. You have no point, except post after post of fail.

Welcome to my ignore list
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So sorry, you learned nothing about the center of mass and yourself.
What exactly was your on topic question I avoided to answer?
There was non.
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achimspok said:
Yes, I mean it. Should I copy the explanation from post #1?

I try it again because R.W.Fassbinder said: If it makes effort then it's always better.

Here it goes:
1) The center part of the core dropped. That part needed about 0.17 seconds to litarally fall at gravitational acceleration.

2) At the same time the perimeter wall (north face) started to bow inwards suggesting an intact floor system that pulled the wall towards the core.
That motion caused an optical illusion seen from the vantage point of "camera 3" because in the 2D video it looks like some bowing downwards.

3) Several frames later the bowed north face gave way and dropped. It reached immediately an acceleration of a little more than 9.81m/s² for a little less than a second.
Imho core-floors-perimeter acted like a spring system. In other words, the perimeter wall was accelerated by the already falling core (and the core was decelerated in the same way).
Of course the center of mass of the entire system didn't fall faster than free fall but the perimeter wall did for a short period of time.

4) the perimeter slowed down to 9.81m/s² and fell further as a unit with the core. That happens exactly in the moment when NIST's "stage 2 - free fall" started.
Hence, since I (and nobody else) have no problem to see that NIST must have measured free fall for "stage 2" the only possible conclusion for the measured deceleration is a "faster than free fall" drop of the north perimeter.

A secondary conclusion is that NIST interpreted the visible movement in the wrong way (besides other failures in their method).
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Why would they do that? Glad you caught it but now what are you going to do about it?
 
achimspok said:
No. If it would - hypothetically - head easterly while bowing - hypothetically - downwards while in fact the NW corner is almost static ... what do you think how much the roofline would stretch towards east and ground? 5-6 meters or so?
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My very own problem is, I cannot see any stretching of the wall nor do I see any downward bowing.
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Please stop with the bouncing buildings.
 
Oh, I see you cum and finally found the explanation.
Thumbs up!

Who are "they" and what do they do?
 
tsig said:
Why would they do that? Glad you caught it but now what are you going to do about it?
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Hey! Hallo! You wrote "Why would they do that?" Who do you mean by "they"? And what do you mean by "do"?

Do you mean NIST? ...and do a false measurement?

Now, what am I going to do about that?

I did it in the right way, I guess. I told the public about it. ...waiting for any comment that makes any sense.
If there is non then I did it obviously rigth.
Next step... don't know. I guess some experts will may be think about that rapid and fast onset of nothing below movement. We will see. I'm open for any good idea.
 
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The nitty gritty.

Here we have the same situation over and over. We are expected to take the word of some arrogant young guy on the internet from a cult, who thinks he can just recite some conspiracy site and say gotcha........over the evalutions of 1000's of experts, dozens of professional institutions and organizations, that were consulted by NIST to assist and investigate. We are expected to also believe that NIST and everyone involved are a bunch of devious liars, that dude online would never lie, neither would any of the CT sites he's reciting from...

LMFAO... These people are too comical...
 
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