9/11 Bee dunkers are unclear: Did Building 7 crash into other buildings as it fell?

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Apparently according to physics bees cannot fly. Since they are defying basic physics they must also be part of the 9/11 conspiracy. And anybody who is part of it is guilty of treason, therefore bees should be executed for their role in the 9/11 Crimes.

Maybe that's why bee populations are dying off - truthers are going after the small, easy targets first...:D
 
what is a Bee Dunker?

is that someone who dunks chocolate-covered bees into milk and then swallows them whole?
 
Bee Dunker is truther code for "everybody else in the world except our tiny cult".
 
The thread title...
9/11 Bee dunkers are unclear: Did Building 7 crash into other buildings as it fell?
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...is a lie.
Everybody here is absolutely, unambiguously clear that WTC7 crashed into other buildings as it fell.
ergo has been shown the images of Fiterman Hall wich was a) on the far side of WTC7 as seen from WTC Plaza and b) damaged on the roof and south face. ergo has been shown the links to sources that would inform him that indeed WTC7 crashed into Fiterman Hall, rendering it a total loss.
ergo has also been shown photos and links that tell a clear and unambiguous story about the Verizon Building: Every "bee dunker" who has commented on this subject has been 100% clear that WTC7 crashed into Verizon.

Why is ergo lying in the thread title already?

Can we expect ergo to not lie in any subsequent post?

I see a trip to AAH, alas before I will be able to contact James Randi for the Challenge.
 
Oystein said:
Everybody here is absolutely, unambiguously clear that WTC7 crashed into other buildings as it fell.
ergo has been shown the images of Fiterman Hall wich was a) on the far side of WTC7 as seen from WTC Plaza and b) damaged on the roof and south face. ergo has been shown the links to sources that would inform him that indeed WTC7 crashed into Fiterman Hall, rendering it a total loss.
ergo has also been shown photos and links that tell a clear and unambiguous story about the Verizon Building: Every "bee dunker" who has commented on this subject has been 100% clear that WTC7 crashed into Verizon.
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So building 7 crashed into both Fiterman Hall and the Verizon building?
 
I don't see why this is such a complicated issue. The the "truth" cult teaches that the building collapsed into its own footprint, just like a CD. Therefore WTC7 must have been a CD, 9/11 was an inside job, new world order, subterranean aliens, blah blah blah.

The problem that is that we see the debris field extends to other buildings, causing damage. Is this true or not? Do these other buildings lie within the footprint or not? Are there photographs of this or not? :rolleyes:
 
adkinsjr said:
I don't see why this is such a complicated issue. The the "truth" cult teaches that the building collapsed into its own footprint, just like a CD.

The problem that is that we see the debris field extends to other buildings, causing damage. Is this true or not? Do these other buildings lie within the footprint or not? Are there photographs of this or not? :rolleyes:
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Tell me what you see in this video, and what about it refutes the CD theory.

 
We're told that the building fell to the south, yet we see debris damage to the north. The rubble pile, however, is centered over its foundation, therefore while mass dispersed, the collapse was still down into its own footprint.
 
ergo said:
So building 7 crashed into both Fiterman Hall and the Verizon building?
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Debris from WTC 7 undeniably impacted the Verizon building, as can been in this photo: http://www.debunking911.com/b7verizon2.jpg

It's logical to conclude that the collapse of WTC 7 damaged Fiterman Hall. It does not appear damaged prior to WTC 7's collapse, but does appear damaged after the collapse.
 
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So I guess from AE's pictures without commentary, we can conclude that some flying debris and the rubble from WTC 7 damaged nearby buildings.

The argument in the referring thread is that this somehow refutes the idea that the building fell straight down (or largely straight down, since we know imploded buildings can and do fall at angles.) And that because it damaged other buildings, it didn't fall into its footprint, i.e., fall straight down. And therefore couldn't possibly be a controlled demolition.

Edit: and that the picture he provides for us above shows that the building fell outside of the specific site it was built on, and fell somewhere else.
 
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ergo said:
So I guess from AE's pictures without commentary, we can conclude that some flying debris and the rubble from WTC 7 damaged nearby buildings.

The argument in the referring thread is that this somehow refutes the idea that the building fell straight down (or largely straight down, since we know imploded buildings can and do fall at angles.) And that because it damaged other buildings, it didn't fall into its footprint, i.e., fall straight down. And therefore couldn't possibly be a controlled demolition.
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No. Truthers claim that it fell into its own footprint, proving that it was a controlled demolition.

We're just pointing out that it didn't fall into its own footprint, so the claim of proof is invalid, on its own stated grounds. Truthers keep making false claims, which are easily refuted with photographic evidence such as the above.

ETA the standard definition of building footprint is something like this: 'A building footprint is the outline of the total area of a lot or site that is surrounded by the exterior walls of a building or portion of a building, exclusive of courtyards. In the absence of surrounding exterior walls, the building footprint shall be the area under the horizontal projection of the roof.'
The pictures clearly demonstrate a large mound of WTC 7 debris outside its footprint and a substantial section of curtain wall (perimeter steel columns) resting against an adjacent building.

Suffice to say the A&ET911Truth claims are directly contradicted by this observation.
 
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tempesta29 said:
We're told that the building fell to the south, yet we see debris damage to the north. The rubble pile, however, is centered over its foundation, therefore while mass dispersed, the collapse was still down into its own footprint.
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"It fell into its own footprint, except that it didn't."
 
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