Merged Rep. Giffords Shot In Tucson

..."FACTS, Counselor! FAAAAAAAAACTS, COUNSELOR! Gahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!" You sound like a broken record. Specifically, a Yoko Ono record.

Good god Dorian, some restraint please!
I mean Bay City Rollers would've been bad enough.
Air Supply would've been on the edge of fighting words.
But Yoko Ono?!?
That is a mortal insult!
I beg you to reconsider the use of such horrible, horrible rhetoric.
 
Hopefully. The wound sounds horrific though, and although she may survive, I'm struggling to believe she will be able to fill her post in any meaningful capacity. :(
Nah, lots of people do fine with small areas of the brain removed if they are not real critical areas.
 
Go back and read pages 1-5 of this thread...and you'll see things like this:
If Sarah Palin's map didn't mean anything and was harmless, why did they take it down today? What reason was there to take that down? They should have left it up and insisted it meant nothing and wasn't connected at all.

I wonder why they took it down?
 
The guy was not left, right, or center. He was batpoop loony. He didn't need any instructions or signs or maps to act crazy. He was crazy.

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/article_91db5db4-1b74-11e0-ba23-001cc4c002e0.html

Apparently no record of military enlistment, either.

http://twitter.com/starsandstripes/status/23885416570552320


Yes, from the look of his youtube channel, it will be very hard to ascribe any sort of coherent motive to his actions.

Sad, sad news. :(
 
Just back from the Real WorldTM, scanning through this entire thread and rereading my post (which was #3 pre-merge).

Oh. ******

This is a defining moment in the future of the USA and the World.

If this is treated as a Left/Right issue with all the standard spume and rhetoric of American politics, I will be greatly afraid.

:scared:

:scared: -- Thanks all. :(
 
Spectrum? Nuance? That sounds suspiciously reasonable.

You are in the wrong thread, buddy.

I know. I'm still waiting for the moment I get creamed for something I've not said or even remotely implied. There's a reason I have like only 150 or so posts...
 
And that bothered you, why?

If the Congresswoman was shot accidentally in a hunting accident, it would still illustrate the inappropriateness of putting up a map with crosshairs targeted at politicians that included the Congresswoman's name, a map Palin refused to admit was wrong and take down.

I've not checked but it was said in this thread that Palin's staff took the map down within 30 minutes of the shooting. Think that might be an admission the map was a bad idea?

you may have missed the part of this thread which showed that the Left wing DailyKos also used the word "targeted" and named Rep. Giffords describing how she had a "bullseye" on her

Now, I don't point this out as if to claim the DailyKos is to blame...but merely to point out that BOTH sides use the same type of rhetoric.
 
Hopefully. The wound sounds horrific though, and although she may survive, I'm struggling to believe she will be able to fill her post in any meaningful capacity. :(


She's already risen from the dead, don't you dare count her out. :D
 
Did anyone hear something? Sounded like a misquito to me...
At first, I read that as 'misquoto' - then I realized that you misspelled 'mosquito'. Misspelled it! Where's the FAAAACTS, Counselor? FAAAAAAAAAAACTS!

Speaking of that, when are you going to post some?
 
when you can't counter their FACTS...correct their Grammar


You shouldn't have capitalized "grammar" there.
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Good god Dorian, some restraint please!
I mean Bay City Rollers would've been bad enough.
Air Supply would've been on the edge of fighting words.
But Yoko Ono?!?
That is a mortal insult!
I beg you to reconsider the use of such horrible, horrible rhetoric.
That was restraint. Letting go would have meant a Yoko Ono record that was playable.
 
If Sarah Palin's map didn't mean anything and was harmless, why did they take it down today? What reason was there to take that down? They should have left it up and insisted it meant nothing and wasn't connected at all.

I wonder why they took it down?

You sound like the wackos on the Right who yell, "Why won't Barack Obama release his long form birth certificate!? Why not just produce it...if you have nothing to hide?"

Go to the Conspiracy forum, provide the "evidence" to your theories...let's discuss
 
Think that might be an admission the map was a bad idea?

Think it might be knowledge of how the map would be connected to the shooting by deranged folks?

If the Congresswoman was shot accidentally in a hunting accident, it would still illustrate the inappropriateness of putting up a map with crosshairs

The map was inappropriate. But linking this, or any shooting to it is deranged. The guy was a lunatic. Loon - A - Tic. He didn't look at any maps for inspiration...
 
Well, if that's really him, then "insane" is his primary political affiliation.

So we can agree on something ! Something good comes from this horror show.


Schizophrenic affected by Ron Paul's rhetoric? Thanks for the screen shots.

So are you advocating that we restrict political speech to avoid inciting violent paranoid schizophrenics ?


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when people like Sarah Palin post maps of the USA, with sniper-scopes targeting politicians she does not agree with, she has to ask herself "how will an insane or extremist interpret this map? is it going too far?"

Same question as above. What is your solution ?

We already have arrived at a point where legitimate political issues cannot be raised or argued without specious charges of racism or dismissive claims of stupidity and ignorance of the opponents. If political speech is suppressed, if opposition is denigrated and their arguments demeaned with ad homiem, then what sort of moron doesn't understand that violence is the necessary result ?

How will an insane person react to your posts ? Is that really the criteria we should use ?


it would be FASCINATING to find out that this guy just randomly happened to pick a Congressperson that just happened to be on Palin's target list.

my..the coincidences are astounding!!

Sarcasm noted & appreciated. Do you suppose Mark David Chapman shot John Lennon for his socialist lyrics ? Perhaps due to the then 16yo Palin's HS right-wing basketball prowess ?

tHonestly, this thread has all the emotion and substance of the paranormal and conspiracy theory forums.

+1
And much of the partisan argumentation here is about as enlightening as a monkey throwing it's feces.

I may disagree with MattM on specifics , but he is one of the few ppl here observing this forum is "a place to dscuss skepticism, critical thinking .... "

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The video clearly shows that JaredL was upset by receiving a "mini-bible" from the military after declaring no "none" religious affiliation, and he ends the video with an anti-deist line. Obviously he was a rabid pro-Dawkinsian, and incited to violence by the pro-Christian assumption of the military. [sarcasm].
 
If Sarah Palin's map didn't mean anything and was harmless, why did they take it down today? What reason was there to take that down? They should have left it up and insisted it meant nothing and wasn't connected at all.

Sure, you'd leave it alone if she left it up right? You'd quit trying to make the connection, right? Give us all a fargin' break already...


Taking it down was the right thing to do. Period.
 
I was out near the Safeway on Oracle (the location the shooting took place at) an hour before the gunman open fired.

I was just now informed of what happened. Is no one safe from the idiocy of conspiracy theorists? And why a nine year old girl? What amount of brain-washing could she have done?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2011-01-08-gifford-shooting_N.htm

Here's a link depicting a bit more of what happened. The guy that did the shooting was pretty deep in the "Rabbit Hole" so to speak, and apparently went a little insane because of it. Giffords was shot in the head, but survived. So was a nine year old girl (who died) and a few others.
 
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