Merged Theory links Newtonian/Quantum the amazing Frank Znidarsic

[ben m]

Is not the edge of the proton fuzzy the "average spacing between nucleons in large nuclei" is akin to the edge of proton fuzziness

No. The "fuzziness" doesn't have an edge worth defining at all.

You're just fishing for an excuse to imagine you're right.

 

[ben m]

Well break down the mathematic in the paper equation by equation

It's exactly the same math that you posted in 36-point font earlier in the thread.

 

[RussDill]

If the priests mention it in the chapel then you must seriously look at it. The dogma is mind boggling think for yourselves only now that phyorg says well maybe there is something to this do you take a look. what about all the time before your priests said this might be possible
But thanks for the link for those that do need clergy it give some credence to the idea of it being at least possible, the first of many hurdles

Yes, lets instead take the word of someone who doesn't understand the double slit experiment (and misunderstands it in a very amusing way).

 

[Mister Earl]

the news does what it will. You are drawing parallells between non related things please clairifiy how doing a cold fusion experiment would somehow cause him to become the richest person on the planet instantaneously?

Well. Here's why I'm bringing this up:

At a uniform 50 - 10 nm palladium, cold fusion with palladium is reduplicated easily and has been around the world

Yes. If he'd accomplished cold fusion, then clean and near limitless energy could be had by all. The energy crisis would end before it really began, and odds are countless lives would be saved. So yeah, I consider my question pretty relavent, especially since you as the OP brought it in to the discussion.

You made the claim that cold fusion has been accomplished. You further that by saying that it has been replicated around the world. I'm asking you either back up your claim, or withdraw it.

And his house to magically go off the grid instantaneously. Or even every nuclear, coal, and natural gas power plant in the world been shut down or reconfigured to use cold fusion in an instant.

Yes. I'm quite sure if cold fusion had been achieved, this would be extremely newsworthy, and the upgrades would have begun at a furious pace. Yet it has not.

there are many steps between what you purport will happen as a matter of cause from cold fusion success and it is factious of you to be so ignorant.

Can you prove that step 1 has even begun? Or how about my original question? Prove that this guy has actually achieved cold fusion. Can you do that? You made the claim, now back it up. Thank you. Oh, and feel free to skip the pithy personal attacks, they aren't adding anything of value to this discussion.

 

[Skwinty]

Yes, lets instead take the word of someone who doesn't understand the double slit experiment (and misunderstands it in a very amusing way).

Who are you talking about here, has Frank got anything to do with the link I provided?

 

[JCM]

Here is a link to cold fusion research in2010. http://www.physorg.com/news188377829.html

'Cold fusion' moves closer to mainstream acceptance
A new "calorimeter," shown immersed in this water bath, provides the first inexpensive means of identifying the hallmark of cold fusion reactions: the production of excess heat. Credit: Melvin Miles
A potential new energy source so controversial that people once regarded it as junk science is moving closer to acceptance by the mainstream scientific community. That's the conclusion of the organizer of one of the largest scientific sessions on the topic -- "cold fusion" -- being held in San Francisco for the next two days in the Moscone Center during the 239th National Meeting of the American Chemical Society (ACS).

Any credence in this progress?

Funny how no one gave your post any thought. Of course there is credence.
Michael McKubre, Ph.D
George Miley, Ph.D
Melvin Miles, Ph.D
Vladimir Vysotskii, Ph.D
Tadahiko Mizuno, Ph.D
Peter Hagelstein, Ph.D
and of course Dr Li
Xing Zhong Li, Ph.D., presents research demonstrating that cold fusion can occur without the production of strong nuclear radiation. He is developing a cold fusion reactor that demonstrates this principle. Li is a scientist with Tsinghua University in Beijing, China
But none of these people rule the wolrd so according to Earl they haven't done a thing. They need flying cars and gridless homes with cold fusion plants for it to be real accoring to my name is earl

 

[Mister Earl]

But none of these people rule the wolrd so according to Earl they haven't done a thing. They need flying cars and gridless homes with cold fusion plants for it to be real accoring to my name is earl

Can you answer my questions without resorting to childish tantrums and personal attacks?

 

[JCM]

Yes, lets instead take the word of someone who doesn't understand the double slit experiment (and misunderstands it in a very amusing way).

Please explain what you state Franks understanding of it is and what your understanding of it is. Clearly please. How does Frank's model explain the experiment? Since you know he doesn't understand it you must then know how he doesn't that is specifically what is wrong with his view

 

[JCM]

No. The "fuzziness" doesn't have an edge worth defining at all.

Actually it does and it 1.36fm. The edge is the the edge of interactions so yes sorry it does play a role. Just as the earths atmosphere plays a role you can say the radius of the earth is the crust but that is not the whole picture buddy
You're just fishing for an excuse to dismiss the math in this theory.

 

[JCM]

Can you answer my questions without resorting to childish tantrums and personal attacks?

Your questions are childish I already answered them. I didnt state cold fusion has been replicated everywhere I said multiple place around the world. I didnt state about money news power plants. You are saying if a then b,c,d, etc... Im saying there is no correlation. You do not become the richest man in the world by simple discovering a new source of energy. it takes a lot of steps and for you to say well there is no d so a has not been accomplished is a logical fallacy. What is the rate of this supposed "change" you espouse will take place? I mean you ignore vested interests amongst a plethora of other things. Not everyone accepts the science yet so why would everything suddenly change.

Show me how any of what you are saying is not strawmen or false correlations
I mean can anyone help me here Earl is obviously asking illegitimate questions in not just my eyes right?

 

[RussDill]

Who are you talking about here, has Frank got anything to do with the link I provided?

I'm talking about Frank's statement that the double slit experiment has something to do with wavewidth. (which unless I'm really mistaken, it based on wavelength)

 

[Skwinty]

I'm talking about Frank's statement that the double slit experiment has something to do with wavewidth. (which unless I'm really mistaken, it based on wavelength)

OK, maybe I should try and read it sometime.

 

[JCM]

Earl Xing Zhong Li presents research demonstrating that cold fusion can occur without the production of strong nuclear radiation. He is developing a cold fusion reactor that demonstrates this principle. Why is not Dr. Li richer than Helu?
If cold fusion can occur without the production of strong nuclear radiation you would think all coal nucleur hydro gas and other power plants would simply shut down if not phase completely out of existence I mean right Im not being facetious right

 

[MattusMaximus]

Is not the edge of the proton fuzzy the "average spacing between nucleons in large nuclei" is akin to the edge of proton fuzziness

No. If I were to charge two balloons each with a net negative charge, and they repelled each other to a distance of 10cm, would you conclude that electrons are then 10cm in diameter?

 

[JCM]

No. If I were to charge two balloons each with a net negative charge, and they repelled each other to a distance of 10cm, would you conclude that electrons are then 10cm in diameter?

No you are right but could nothing be garnered from such a macro level about the micro?

 

[Skwinty]

Maybe he is equating width with E amplitude.

But then height should equate to B amplitude.

oh wait, I suppose that would depend on his his frame of reference so maybe width applies to both.

Sounds like a an inspiring read.

 

[MattusMaximus]

Well break down the mathematic in the paper equation by equation

It doesn't matter what the math says if it is based upon false premises to begin with. I can say 3 + 4 = 7 all day long, and it would be correct in math classes, but that doesn't necessarily mean that if I add a vector of length 3 with a vector of length 4, then I'll always get a vector of length 7. Physics is more than just a blind application of math.

 

[MattusMaximus]

Is not the edge of the proton fuzzy the "average spacing between nucleons in large nuclei" is akin to the edge of proton fuzziness

No. If I were to charge two balloons each with a net negative charge, and they repelled each other to a distance of 10cm, would you conclude that electrons are then 10cm in diameter?

No you are right but could nothing be garnered from such a macro level about the micro?

 

[Mister Earl]

Your questions are childish

Actually, they're quite relevant, considering the topic.

I already answered them.

No, you waved your hand and pretended my questions weren't there.

I didnt state cold fusion has been replicated everywhere I said multiple place around the world.

And I asked you to prove it. I'm waiting.

I didnt state about money news power plants. You are saying if a then b,c,d, etc... Im saying there is no correlation.

What I said was, if this guy had actually created cold fusion, then yes, he'd be rich already. Sure, the technology would take time to mature. But he'd also be one of the most famous people in the world. He'd be touring about. He'd be on every talk show. People would be paying him obscene amounts of money to talk at various conferences. Why is this not happening? Please answer.

You do not become the richest man in the world by simple discovering a new source of energy.

Perhaps not. But neither would they remain in the backround, avoiding peer-reviewed scientific journals like the plague.

it takes a lot of steps and for you to say well there is no d so a has not been accomplished is a logical fallacy. What is the rate of this supposed "change" you espouse will take place?

Step one would be worldwide recognition for the amazing scientific advance that has taken place. This has not happened yet. Why? Please answer.

I mean you ignore vested interests amongst a plethora of other things.

No, I ignore baseless claims. I ask for evidence. That's how things work around here.

Not everyone accepts the science yet so why would everything suddenly change.

If he were able to produce cold fusion under scientifically controlled conditions, then "The science would be accepted". That's how science works.

 

[JCM]

It doesn't matter what the math says if it is based upon false premises to begin with. I can say 3 + 4 = 7 all day long, and it would be correct in math classes, but that doesn't necessarily mean that if I add a vector of length 3 with a vector of length 4, then I'll always get a vector of length 7. Physics is more than just a blind application of math.

You are right about Physics. I did say way back Im into the math not physics. But what algebraic terms are being "mis-defined" as it were?