OK, so how do thermite demolitions work again?

Chodorov said:
So your theory doesn't explain the molten iron in all three basements. Since the iron was there you must accept that your theory is wrong.

There there. There there. Time heals all things.
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Yes, my "theory" does explain it. Yours (for reasons you'll never want to understand) does not.

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Chodorov said:
Arabs alone theorist
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Aaaaand we find the reason for Chodorov's denialism: Good ol' fashioned racism.

"It couldn't 'ave been dose rag-heads in dem caves who dunnit! 9-11 was too big an operation fer a bunch o' goat-herders! A WHITE MAN DUNNIT!"
 
Thanks Dave, Trutherslie.....

I'm assuming then, by the size of the residue sample in the picture provided, that there were no large(relatively speaking) solidified chunks of previously molten metals/material?

What I'm getting at (and it doesnt involve thermite), is; Is there any evidence of residues at GZ that would support the eyewitness accounts of molten materials? Based on the eyewitness descriptions, there should be some re-solidified materials en masse.
 
Chodorov said:
Well of course not. If you used only things which go BOOM that would be a harder sell. Its clear there was both thermate AND mutliple explosions. Notice the AND.
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And by clear you mean you have evidence of thermate and explosives use?
 
uke2se said:
Aaaaand we find the reason for Chodorov's denialism: Good ol' fashioned racism.

"It couldn't 'ave been dose rag-heads in dem caves who dunnit! 9-11 was too big an operation fer a bunch o' goat-herders! A WHITE MAN DUNNIT!"
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Thats a powerful argument of course. Its just not the one I'm making here. My argument is that it wasn't done by people in caves, or by the blind man who sleeps besides the fridge, or by any Australian aboriginals. It had to be done by people who could get in the building and have the building rigged up. Now how does your theory explain the molten iron in all three basements?
 
Chodorov said:
Thermate of course. There were multiple explosions.
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Firstly thermate is not an explosive. Secondly no evidence of thermate has ever been found.

Chodorov said:
As to the ad hoc "aluminium replacement theory" it wasn't molten aluminium that was found in all three basements. Rather it was molten iron.
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Thirdly - what happens to liquid steel when it cools to room temperature? (I refuse to use the word molten because it's ambiguous)

Fourthly - How much liquid steel are you saying was present? Grams? Kilograms? Tonnes?

Fifthly- why is there no evidence of this previously liquid steel? If you have evidence please provide it. Witness statements won't do because even I as a trained metallurgist will not be able to tell the composition of a liquid metal/alloy just by looking at the colour/temperature.

Sixthly - Please show me a mechanism by which such an amount of liquid steel could remain in the liquid state for such a period of time.

Anyone who has any experience with thermate/thermite, even watching youtube vids will know that the thermite reaction is over in a matter of a couple of minutes and the resulting products cool rapidly to form solids in under 5 minutes.

Thank You.

I doubt you'll answer these questions so I shan't bother asking for calculations for how much thermate was required for demolition, how it was applied/how it was rigged, how the timing was so precise with such an imprecise material to affect a top down collapse, how it wasn't affected by fire on the floors where the aircraft hit, why their isn't any evidence of steel columns/beams with damage caused by thermate or coated with thermate reaction products and why there is no video of the large firework display that would be visible when the thermate was ignited on multiple floors.
 
Chodorov said:
Thats a powerful argument of course. Its just not the one I'm making here. My argument is that it wasn't done by people in caves, or by the blind man who sleeps besides the fridge, or by any Australian aboriginals. It had to be done by people who could get in the building and have the building rigged up. Now how does your theory explain the molten iron in all three basements?
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What is your evidence it was Iron, and how does your theory explain it? How did those buildings get "rigged up" anyway?

Oh wait. Do you even have a theory?
 
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twinstead said:
And by clear you mean you have evidence of thermate and explosives use?
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Of course. Multiple convergent evidence. Video, sound, witness testimony. You cannot have more evidence then that for the multiple explosions. As to thermate you see molten iron dripping from the building. You have the molten iron in all three basements, as well as the tell-tale spheres that come about when iron goes from a gas to a solid. The arab-kids-alone media force-feeding explains none of the above.
 
Chodorov said:
Thermate of course. There were multiple explosions. How does your theory, the one you were told ten years ago, explain the multiple explosions?
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Here's a bunch of examples of people using the word "bomb" and "explosion" and "blast" not referring to any form of explosive.

Gary Craig lives near the main entrance of County Stadium, the Brewers' current home. "It was like TWO BOMBS going off. It was like TWO EXPLOSIONS," Craig said.
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A scary S.F. BLAST under streets... An underground EXPLOSION in downtown San Francisco frightened hundreds of office workers .... she was on the 12th floor of a building overlooking the intersection, which is near Market Street, when "the whole building shook."
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At least nine upper stories were on fire and muffled EXPLOSIONS could be heard in the building... EXPLOSIONS could be heard within the building and authorities cordoned off a zone some 500 metres in diameter in case it should collapse.
[Source]

Again, NONE of these refer to bombs.
 
Chodorov said:
Of course. Multiple convergent evidence. Video, sound, witness testimony. You cannot have more evidence then that for the multiple explosions. As to thermate you see molten iron dripping from the building. You have the molten iron in all three basements, as well as the tell-tale spheres that come about when iron goes from a gas to a solid. The arab-kids-alone media force-feeding explains none of the above.
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You know you not only have to SAY you have evidence, it actually really has to BE evidence, right?

1. Give me your evidence the metal was iron.
2. explain how it fits into your theory
 
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Edx said:
Here's a bunch of examples of people using the word "bomb" and "explosion" and "blast" not referring to any form of explosive.

Gary Craig lives near the main entrance of County Stadium, the Brewers' current home. "It was like TWO BOMBS going off. It was like TWO EXPLOSIONS," Craig said.
[Source]

A scary S.F. BLAST under streets... An underground EXPLOSION in downtown San Francisco frightened hundreds of office workers .... she was on the 12th floor of a building overlooking the intersection, which is near Market Street, when "the whole building shook."
[Source]

At least nine upper stories were on fire and muffled EXPLOSIONS could be heard in the building... EXPLOSIONS could be heard within the building and authorities cordoned off a zone some 500 metres in diameter in case it should collapse.
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Again, NONE of these refer to bombs.
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Right. Thanks. Multiple convergent evidence for multiple explosions. There is only so much that you can do to muffle multiple explosions.

Oh I see. You are not even dealing with 9/11. I didn't pick it up that you had changed the subject entirely. What we want to know about is 9/11
 
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Chodorov said:
Right. Thanks. Multiple convergent evidence for multiple explosions. There is only so much that you can do to muffle multiple explosions.
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????? ahahahah!

None of those quotes have anything to do with 911

FAIL :rolleyes:
 
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Chodorov said:
Right. Thanks. Multiple convergent evidence for multiple explosions. There is only so much that you can do to muffle multiple explosions.
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Oh, I get it. Your're one of those who instead of answering serious questions that put your theory into doubt or even providing evidence for it, you just keep repeating your assumption over and over again and hope it suddenly becomes right the 1000th time you do?

Nice debate mojo
 
twinstead said:
You know you not only have to SAY you have evidence, it actually really has to BE evidence, right?

1. Give me your evidence the metal was iron.
2. explain how it fits into your theory
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Right. Iron was what the witnesses said. Iron was the constituency of the spheres found. No evidence for aluminium. No possibility of it being aluminium on the basis of the Arabs alone theory.
 
Chodorov said:
Its clear there was both thermate AND mutliple explosions. Notice the AND.
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No, that isn't clear. For it to be clear you need to provide evidence. Got any? Specifically for explosives (note the distinction from 'explosions') and thermate (a claim that was made up by a twoofer to explain why there were no evidence for demolition explosions).
 
Edx said:
????? ahahahah!

None of those quotes have anything to do with 911

FAIL :rolleyes:
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No I picked that up. Scroll back. You will see I picked that up and edited it. You see we are only interested in 9/11. Not in some sort of party trick distraction that you've concocted.
 
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