Don't these 3 kinda stick out when you consider Guede's claims, that Meredith was killed by someone else. Bloody tissue near the crime scene and one in the yard.
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Continuation Part 2 - Discussion of the Amanda Knox case
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Don't these 3 kinda stick out when you consider Guede's claims, that Meredith was killed by someone else. Bloody tissue near the crime scene and one in the yard.
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You actually believe that multiple wounds is evidence to the contrary? I'd love to see the treatise that says a single assailant can't inflict multiple wounds and bruises. And then I would burn it.
With two different knives?
You mean a lone wolf scenario where Guede breaks in the house, takes a crap without flushing, beats up meredith, sexually assaults her, kills her with one knife, and flees the country.
Prosecution expert says that all the knife wounds could have been created by one knife. The difference is all the wounds can't be created by the knife from Sollecito's apartment. So if that knife isn't the murder weapon then all the wounds are created by one knife. He also says all the bruising could have been created by one person. No evidence was entered to prove a fake break in.
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So Rudy alone then? Nobody else involved?
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I'm still curious about the fact that you accept multiple bruises and cuts indicates multiple attackers. Are you seriously backing that line of reasoning? Do you think OJ Simpson must have had an accomplice? He did leave multiple cuts and bruises on two people after all.
Edit: You also inferred that sexual assault is indicative of multiple attackers? How?
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I'm trying to establish if you think Rudy used two knives. Is that a rational belief?
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That's not what you were trying to establish. You were trying to establish that all these pieces of evidence lead you to the conclusion that the lone wolf theory "doesn't cut it". Ok, let's say I agree with you there were multiple attackers and that Rudy didn't do it alone. Ok? Many of the things you listed still wouldn't make sense as indicative of multiple attackers.
That there was a sexual assault? That's indicative of multiple attackers? I don't think so, but by all means explain how it is.
Multiple bruises and cuts? Indicative of multiple attackers? I don't think so, but by all means explain.
A crap without flushing? I admit it's confusing on its face, but I don't see how this indicates multiple attackers.
So we're left now with two knives and a fake break in? Ok, I'll assume for the sake of argument that you're right about that and those indicate multiple attackers. That doesn't mean the aforementioned pieces of evidence indicate what you imply they do.
What two knives?
That's what the court decided. Do you contest this?
The court had to decide that. It didn't fit with the size of the wounds (which easily could have been made by one smaller knife) and the bloody print.
see what I mean by contortions?
The court had to decide that. It didn't fit with the size of the wounds (which easily could have been made by one smaller knife) and the bloody print.
see what I mean by contortions?
Oh a conspiracy then. Good to know.
What evidence? Yep they found Knox dna in her apartment, Wow thats a huge discovery. The prosecution experts, police and witnesses were caught lying and the prosecution's own witnesses were contradicting the prosecutions theory.
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I think either you are trolling (and quite successfully, kudos) or you are having flashbacks to the first thread which was a very long time ago.
The court decided that there were two knives, but the court decided all sorts of stupid things, including that it was "thus possible and in fact probable... that Amanda, advised and convinced by her boyfriend, that is Raffaele Sollecito, to take this knife with her, if not only to make her feel more secure, and that, if necessary, it could have served as a deterrent against possible ill-intentioned persons". (Massei p403, or p376 in the PMF PDF).
While you may not yet be quite clear on the idea that rational people might think for themselves and fix their own opinions based on the evidence, rather than mindlessly and irrationally agreeing with whatever a court says, I don't think anybody else here is unclear on the idea and hence repeating the arguments that have already been put to you on this point seems unnecessary.
The prosecution experts stated that the wounds were compatible with a single knife. The totality of the evidence clearly inclines a rational observer to the belief that the murder was committed by a single attacker with a single knife. I don't think there is anything more to be said.
Im open to the possibility of someone else involved. Im even open to Knox and Sollecito being involved. I just require more than hearsay, rumor, homeless guy that can't get his story straight, and prosecution theories that have no evidence to support them, to consider them guilty.
Also, I think the 2 knife theory is absurd. I mean seriously. They want you to believe knox is carrying around that machette of a kitchen knife in her purse without leaving a trace of blood in her purse, tearing up her purse or anyone seeing her carrying it. Plus to top it off, the dna results can't be reproduced, there was no blood on the knife, it wasn't even sealed to avoid contamination, it doesn't match the knife wounds, and it wasn't cleaned with bleach or washed off in either Sollecito's sink or Meredith's. Yet its claimed to be the murder weapon.
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Hi Mary, I'm well informed on the case. For the past 2 years I've been gathering informations about the events that took place back in 2007 and also about the trial, but to date I have found no credible explanation on how did Raffaele's DNA got on the bra clasp of Meredith Kercher, apart from contamination, of course.
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Kev: "The totality of the evidence clearly inclines a rational observer to the belief that the murder was committed by a single attacker with a single knife. I don't think there is anything more to be said."
Apart from the fact that the prosecution put forward a convincing argument that this was not the case. This was accepted unanimously by the jury. How many "rational observers" was that?
I guess that your definition of "rational observers" is those people who support your theories and speculations.
Apart from the fact that the prosecution put forward a convincing argument that this was not the case. This was accepted unanimously by the jury. How many "rational observers" was that?
I guess that your definition of "rational observers" is those people who support your theories and speculations.
It would seem that everyone here, apart from RWVBWL,could be barking up the wrong tree.
There is a very real possibility that the murderer was someone else as described in the alternate theories link above.
I have said this several times before, but no-one wants to even entertain the thought that although Rudy was present at the cottage he was not the murderer.
Well that goes both ways. Apparently the new judge has serious concerns about the conviction of Sollecito and Knox.
I have no problem entertaining the thought of Rudy not being involved. Just as soon as Rudy himself can explain the following:
Bloody handprint on the wall. The handprint that would require someone that didn't commit the murder to step over the body to leave it on the wall.
Plus him going through Meredith's purse.
Plus him going clubbing rather than sitting at home in shock over the murder.
Why he fingers knox as the person that rang the doorbell to her own apartment.
Why he said Knox/sollecito had nothing to do with the murder on skype.
How he identified the correct window that was broken when the news reported a different window.
Why he said that someone might have raped Meredith.
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