The 100% Impossible 9/11 Inside Job

Dragon37 said:
You do know that hypnotist cannot make anyone do anything they do not want to do? Clearly not. If they are capable of doing what you say they why is that conspiracy nutbars exist? Are you going to advance that you guys are just not susceptible? lol.

You CTer's are funnier than Monty Python.
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If you convince someone they are doing something other than what they are doing, you don't have to make them go against their will. If you convince a guy that a gun is a "happy magic ray" which turns him into a god, you could probably get a man to shoot himself in the head.

Seriously, are we denying that mind control/brainwashing is possible? Make sure you want to go down that road before you do.
 
tempesta29 said:
Seriously, are we denying that mind control/brainwashing is possible? Make sure you want to go down that road before you do.
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what evidence do you have that the plane pilots OR the 9-11 hijackers were under some sort of "mind control"?

were they reading Prisonplanet as they were flying?

:p
 
tempesta29 said:
If you convince someone they are doing something other than what they are doing, you don't have to make them go against their will. If you convince a guy that a gun is a "happy magic ray" which turns him into a god, you could probably get a man to shoot himself in the head.
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So you're saying, for example, that with a particular kind of indoctrination, an educated and technically competent person could be convinced that crashing a passenger airliner into a skyscraper, thus killing himself as well as numerous people who he has been convinced are deserving of his hatred, would transform him into an immortal being with a special honored status in an eternal afterlife paradise?

That's one of the hardest elements of the historical narrative of 9/11 to understand and believe, but you make such a convincing argument that I'll regard that issue as settled.

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
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tempesta29 said:
Seriously, are we denying that mind control/brainwashing is possible? Make sure you want to go down that road before you do.
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This is just getting even more silly. Even you must realise that you've plucked this possibility out of thin air, you are just guessing. And you expect people to take it seriously. The reason your having to resort to wilder and wilder speculation is because under scrutiny your other speculations have fallen apart.

Put your hands in the air and step away from the internet, seriously. Even by your own standards there has been no movement for ten years in the cause for 9/11 Truth. It's not going anywhere, have a break for a year, take up some other hobby.

I don't think your a liar at all but I think you are repeating the falsehoods of others and those people are not interested in the truth and have their own agenda. Don't waste any more of your time dancing to their tune.
 
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tempesta29 said:
Your argument assumes that those directly involved in such an operation even have total cognitive awareness of what they're doing or that they would remember any of it afterwards.
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Your rebuttal assumes it's possible for someone to be controlled like the (fictional) Manchurian Candidate to carry out a complex task without knowledge during or after doing so. It's not.

tempesta29 said:
Oh but wait, mind control is just a conspiracy theory. Yawn.
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Yes. Mind control, at least of the type you're fantasizing about, is just a conspiracy theory.
 
chipmunk stew said:
Your rebuttal assumes it's possible for someone to be controlled like the (fictional) Manchurian Candidate to carry out a complex task without knowledge during or after doing so. It's not.
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And I assume you have evidence that this isn't possible.
 
deeper said:
This is just getting even more silly. Even you must realise that you've plucked this possibility out of thin air, you are just guessing. And you expect people to take it seriously. The reason your having to resort to wilder and wilder speculation is because under scrutiny your other speculations have fallen apart.
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So you admit it's a possibility. Thanks for playing.

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tempesta29 said:
If you think, after watching hypnotists on daytime television convince a man in an armchair he's driving a Ferrari, that the CIA can't do more or less the same, then there's not much more to discuss: you need to learn more about the subject.
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I think if you believe the claims of daytime TV shysters, that provides an insight into why you believe 9/11 was an inside job.
 
tempesta29 said:
And I assume you have evidence that this isn't possible.
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It's not possible to prove a negative, but for all intents and purposes, it's a safe assumption that it's impossible.

Show me a single case in which it's been done and I'll revise my assumption.
 
tempesta29 said:
So you admit it's a possibility. Thanks for playing.

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Thanks for playing word games with you?

Yea. Endless discussion of semantics and irrelevant minutiae is exactly the same as discussing actual points in a debate. Thanks for your clarification.
 
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chipmunk stew said:
Your rebuttal assumes it's possible for someone to be controlled like the (fictional) Manchurian Candidate to carry out a complex task without knowledge during or after doing so. It's not.
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I would have to agree with you on this one. However what have you got to say about the multiple war simulations going on that day, including one scenario of a hijacked plane flying into a building? All those people working on these maneuvers could have been unwitting accomplices to the attack, no?

How far out can you pull the coincidence theory without making yourself look like a kook?
 
tempesta29 said:
Seriously, are we denying that mind control/brainwashing is possible? Make sure you want to go down that road before you do.
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There's no evidence to support the idea that any amount of external manipulation can turn someone into an unthinking automaton who has no memory of his actions.
 
Quiproquo said:
I would have to agree with you on this one. However what have you got to say about the multiple war simulations going on that day, including one scenario of a hijacked plane flying into a building? All those people working on these maneuvers could have been unwitting accomplices to the attack, no?How far out can you pull the coincidence theory without making yourself look like a kook?
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How so? Please elaborate. Thanks.
 
Quiproquo said:
I would have to agree with you on this one. However what have you got to say about the multiple war simulations going on that day, including one scenario of a hijacked plane flying into a building? All those people working on these maneuvers could have been unwitting accomplices to the attack, no?

How far out can you pull the coincidence theory without making yourself look like a kook?
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How many "simulations" actually took place?
 
Quiproquo said:
I would have to agree with you on this one. However what have you got to say about the multiple war simulations going on that day, including one scenario of a hijacked plane flying into a building? All those people working on these maneuvers could have been unwitting accomplices to the attack, no?

How far out can you pull the coincidence theory without making yourself look like a kook?
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Everything you always wanted to know about 9/11 "war games" (but were afraid to ask):

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70300
 
Um. This whole "including one scenario of a hijacked plane flying into a building" wasn't that before 9/11 or only an on paper proposal? I thought this had already been debunked years back. Not to mention what relevance is it anyway?
 
triforcharity said:
How so? Please elaborate. Thanks.
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For example, it is reported that there was a war simulation of hijacked aircrafts going on. To this end there were "phantom" planes flying around on the radar. This could have been used to confuse any appropriate response to the attack if we had reports of dozens of hijacked aircraft instead of the four which occured on 9/11. The technicians and administrators of the simulations would be unwitting accomplices.
 
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