Of course, what is surprising or illogical from one vantage point may be "reasoning from the obvious" in another.
A: Jupiter interacts electrically with its moons.
B: Jupiter interacts electrically with the Sun, as does the Earth.
C: The planets in the Solar System are charged bodies.
D: The Sun has an electric field.
Suddenly the elephant so long "hidden" in the living room of astrophysics is exposed. Since the Sun gives off proton storms, and the protons in the solar wind are being accelerated away from the Sun, it should have been obvious all along that the Sun is the center of an electric field…
E. Electrical transactions between the Sun, the planets, and the planets' moons are only to be expected in the Electric Universe.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/arch06/061123abcd.htm
Oh, dear, another direct quote from thunderdolts.
It starts off with "NASA investigators now recognize that Jupiter's auroras are electrical phenomena." Apparently this is from 2005, and at that time it was already well known what creates aurora (accelerated particles hitting the atmosphere), but I guess thunderdolts did not know that yet.
And yes, there is a tail to the auroral spot, which was well explained by 2005. And then comes the question:
thunderdolts said:
"…Europa is not thought to be volcanic, so what could produce the electrical current that zips along and eventually gives rise to Europa's auroral footprint?" the writers of the report ask.
Which reports is that supposed to be? Definitely not the paper by Grodent, because I know that he knows about Alfvén wings, something that has been know about since the Voyager era!!! (i.e. ~20 years before that GRL paper by Grodent).
So, the interaction of the Jovian magnetosphere with the Galilean moons is, if anything
electromagnetic, calling it electric does not make any sense at all. The magnetic field of Jupiter moves faster than the moon and gets draped over the moon. This sets up Alfvén waves, travelling along the magnetic field to Jupiter and back again, and this sets up a current system.
Here is a paper that I wrote about this.
So actually, the interaction is magnetic and the changes in the magnetic field create electric fields and sets up currents. The magnetic field is the starting point for this phenomenon.
Jupiter interacts with the solar wind of the sun, which again is mainly a magnetic interaction.
Are the planets charged? Yes, probably they have a small charge, but then what? What do they want to do with the charge? Well, I guess that comes from the following misconception:
thunderdolts said:
An electrical interaction between Jupiter and its moons means that the bodies are charged. (As soon as you grant that one body is charged, the other body is also charged in relationship to it).
The fact that currents flow along the Io, or Europa or Ganymede or Callisto flux tube does not mean at all that the moons are charged. This conclusion means that thunderdolts does not understand the way the moons interact with the magnetic field of Jupiter (not surprising). Look in my paper in the references for full explanations of this process by e.g. Neubauer and by Herbert and by Kivelson.
Then we get to that the sun has an electric field. Probably yes, as it has a net charge (see post by Tim Thompson for link to paper by Neslusan), but the electric field is small, as far as I know, no real electric field has been measured.
Ah, proton storms are the indication that the Sun is in the centre of an electric field? Then what is with the electrons that are also accelerated away from the Sun? Of course a so called proton storm is just the same as a solar flare, and yes there is an abundance of protons then passing by the Earth, but also an equal amount of electrons. It is just that in these kind of events the protons have more energy because of the interaction with the CME (shock acceleration).
So, to end, electromagnetic interactions between the solar wind and the planets or between the magnetosphere and moons are only to be expected in mainstream plasmaastrophysics and space physics.
Did I write that? NO! Learn to read! I wrote “So your saying it can't be falsified? That's a worry.”
FYI a “?” at the end of a sentence means it’s a question.
Just use a method for low-pressure gas discharge physics.
I don’t think pointing out your using the wrong model is an excuse.
As I understand it: EU/PC theory has the Sun as a focus or Z pinch of a galactic Birkeland current. It’s also scalable from the lab experiments of plasma Z pinches. So, can’t you do something with that for your total energy budget math?
I have already shown that an electric Sun does not match the observations, there is no large current flow a la Juergens, because we do not observe that kind of magnetic field, no such currents were measured above the poles of the Sun, there is no dynamo that can drive that kind of current that is needed for an electric Sun and last but not least,
there exists no electric Sun model that is even remotely quantitative. I am NOT going to do a calculation for the energy budget here, because I already did do that with the stupid Juergens model.
Why don't you do some
real work? But then, you can only parrot thunderdolts, and further nothing.
This is no discussion, this is just you copying the whole thunderdolts website here, and if you have finished that, you will probably start copying posts from godlikeproductions.
