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The Freeman Movement and England

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gtm said:
The Trust debate has moved from the sublime to the ridiculous:-
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I like this:
mark1963 wrote:
Because trusts have been so well hidden and all that is discussed is contracts, that's all that folks know about. The grand deception.
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This trust stuff is so well hidden the only people that know about it is half a dozen posters on the Icke site. Now all they have got to do is to convince the judiciary that their discovery is the truth.
 
Stacey Grove said:
I like this:
mark1963 wrote:

This trust stuff is so well hidden the only people that know about it is half a dozen posters on the Icke site. Now all they have got to do is to convince the judiciary that their discovery is the truth.
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Trust (hah!) the Icke loons to up the ante. We've got to go deeper! Statutory law is actually contract law, but contract law is actually trusts!

Why stop there? Peel back another layer of the onion of deception, oh ye valiant FOTLers! What deep, dark conspiracy lies beneath the mask of trusts!
 
Stacey Grove said:
I like this:
mark1963 wrote:

This trust stuff is so well hidden the only people that know about it is half a dozen posters on the Icke site. Now all they have got to do is to convince the judiciary that their discovery is the truth.
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yosick explains it all:

The more education you are exposed to, the less you know.
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I expect his knowledge is unlimited.
 
Perhaps FMOTL is the true conspiracy? Promoted by con men to extract cash from morons?
 
D'rok said:
There are rogues, and then there are rogues, if you take my meaning.

Han Solo, Menard is not!
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Turns out, it was gas, not offense.

A true rogue doesn't get offended unless it suits his interests to pretend to be so. Not that I particularly like being compared even accidentally to this clown...
 
Note to Yozhik

Yozhik is showing off yet again over on Ickes.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=148955&page=11
But hey ... I should be flattered.
Being insulted by JREF members is actually an expression of being intimidated and fearful ... otherwise the cowards would be here, debating the points directly, rather than cowering around a Weetabix bowl, beating the monkey into submission.
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I was there, until they all conspired to get me banned.
Maybe thats why posters from here dont want to bother signing up and debating with people on Ickes. its all one sided moderation.
Yozhik, if your reading this come and sign up here, theres no bias moderation on this site.
Oh, and you keep asking Rumpole if he has done any research, can you just clear up where and what he should be researching, not youtube videos and commercial redemption sites by any chance.

Oh and by the way , stop waffling on about the whys and wherefores of what you believe trusts to be and how they are used and tell your fellow freemen how they can use your information to enrich their lives.
Is your information and research you have done any use to anyone, or is it just unsubstantiated idiocy spewed onto the page?
 
You've almost got to admire the balls of someone willing to say something so stupid. Ban all dissenting voices, then complain that dissentors won't come and debate with you. Brilliant!
 
Sledge said:
You've almost got to admire the balls of someone willing to say something so stupid. Ban all dissenting voices, then complain that dissentors won't come and debate with you. Brilliant!
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You've touched on what for me has become the most pertinent point.

Menard, Yozhik, Girlgye, Herald Holmes, Mark1963. They hold court there like freeman royalty and spout complete rubbish, but the usual suspects (often from their own circle) are there to lap it up though. Oh, plus Bones.

Then they proclaim victory over the "naysayers" while conveniently forgetting the "ban dissenters" witch hunt that left only a few rational voices on the forum. This is a victory for the freemen though. Not exactly an inspiring precedent for life in Freeman Valley, eh...?

I think I'm going to make it my new year's resolution to keep away from that forum. The lack of thought there has gone beyond comedy to slightly worrying/mildly disturbing.

"The lunatics have taken over the asylum......"
 
cocana said:
I think I'm going to make it my new year's resolution to keep away from that forum.
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if you are who I think you are, I do hope you reconsider.
Your input there is first class..er.. that is if you are who I think you are:D
 
cocana said:
I think I'm going to make it my new year's resolution to keep away from that forum. The lack of thought there has gone beyond comedy to slightly worrying/mildly disturbing.

"The lunatics have taken over the asylum......"
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+ 1

To my mind they've got even crazier since I started lurking in the Spring.
 
gtm said:
+ 1

To my mind they've got even crazier since I started lurking in the Spring.
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Absolutely agreed. The turning point came when the gurus were pushed on some basic tenets of the law and their beliefs. Since then we've had bannings and, most of all, insane ramblings which have reach far beyond "normal" levels for that freeman forum. They've lost the plot completely now and this latest thing about trusts is a prime example.

O blimey, thanks to you there's another identity to work out now...! ;)
 
cocana said:
Absolutely agreed. The turning point came when the gurus were pushed on some basic tenets of the law and their beliefs. Since then we've had bannings and, most of all, insane ramblings which have reach far beyond "normal" levels for that freeman forum. They've lost the plot completely now and this latest thing about trusts is a prime example.

O blimey, thanks to you there's another identity to work out now...! ;)
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God, the 'Trusts' Aaaaaah :jaw-dropp

They got that from the American commerce & sovereign movements. So much of their theories has been demolished that they have to go looking for new 'tech' - for example, we very rarely hear about maritime law these days.
 
gtm said:
God, the 'Trusts' Aaaaaah :jaw-dropp

They got that from the American commerce & sovereign movements. So much of their theories has been demolished that they have to go looking for new 'tech' - for example, we very rarely hear about maritime law these days.
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O yes, maritime law is everything. That one was a real giggle. Girlgye still has her jaws around that bone even now, so someone needs to wind her up a bit. She rarely fails to take the bait, although she has been slightly more restrained of late.

Next time she shoots off more 'legal' jibber jabber.....
 
Meanwhile we have Herald Holmes. If someone tees them up he never fails to drive them off.

It would appear that roads, infrastructure and other benefits of statehood are not benefits after all and must be proved to be such. Can't post the link but I'm sure people who dip into the DI Forum will spot what I've seen.

If you dug a 20" deep hole for him, he'd jump in just to spite you! :D
 
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cocana said:
O yes, maritime law is everything. That one was a real giggle. Girlgye still has her jaws around that bone even now, so someone needs to wind her up a bit. She rarely fails to take the bait, although she has been slightly more restrained of late.

Next time she shoots off more 'legal' jibber jabber.....
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Don't they ever clue in to the fact that they each have mutually exclusive "truths" about what law really is?
 
O yes, maritime law is everything. That one was a real giggle. Girlgye still has her jaws around that bone even now, so someone needs to wind her up a bit. She rarely fails to take the bait, although she has been slightly more restrained of late.
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Ah yes the hysterical Mary Gye, always value for money, she actually accused me of trying to make her commit suicide?????
She also just recently accused me of having "unyielding cruelty" when debating. :confused:
Cant she simply log of or just ignore a comment?

yozhiks going to run away or make a total fool of himself again in a minute.
Rumplestitskin has asked him for some sources of information on his "trusts" theory.
Now if he posts any links to any legally recognised publications hes done for, he could however post some links to some freeman/redemption sites but if he does.......well you get the picture.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=148955&page=13
 
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