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Will the internet survive energy contraction?

So, TFian, did Führer und Reichskansler Adolf Hitler put into the works what is commonly known today as "The holocaust"?
 
Garrison0fMars said:
So what about the uranium? This thread isn't about "will breeder reactors live up to X hype", but "Will the Internet survive energy contraction". I, and others in this thread demonstrated the minuscule amounts of energy needed to power the world wide web, and the even more minuscule amounts to power a global Internet on packet radio (which even Greer accepts is plausible) The World Wide Web can easily be powered by local renewable power sources, with no need for nuclear energy.
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Ok, point taken. However, the construction and power needs are inextricably linked with computers after all (Without computers, there can be no Internet) There are plenty of members of the geek subculture who consider the future I've discussed appallingly low tech because it doesn't have room for computers. (I don't think it'll be possible to manufacture and maintain them with the technology and resource base of the deindustrial era.) My working guess is that we'll bottom out a couple of centuries from now somewhere around 18th century technology, and then move from there in new directions in regards to communication technologies.

But, if there's a relatively low-tech, sustainable way to make some sort of workable computing machine that uses less energy and produces better results than a trained human being with a slide rule, that may very well stick around...but my money's on the slide rule.
 
TubbaBlubba said:
So, TFian, did Führer und Reichskansler Adolf Hitler put into the works what is commonly known today as "The holocaust"?
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Yes of course he did. Or rather, him and his political party did. However, there's a lot of room for skepticism on a lot of the details of the "holocaust" Numbers of how many actually died, the actual methods of the holocaust (such as the Zyklon B controversy) and the depiction of Jewish life before the holocaust.
 
TFian said:
Yes of course he did. Or rather, him and his political party did. However, there's a lot of room for skepticism on a lot of the details of the "holocaust" Numbers of how many actually died, the actual methods of the holocaust (such as the Zyklon B controversy) and the depiction of Jewish life before the holocaust.
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How do you feel about 5.2-5.7 million Jews dead and about as many non-Jews (Romanis, handicapped, homosexuals, Slavs...) in the systematic genocides perpetrated by the Nazis?
 
TubbaBlubba said:
How do you feel about 5.2-5.7 million Jews dead and about as many non-Jews (Romanis, handicapped, homosexuals, Slavs...) in the systematic genocides perpetrated by the Nazis?
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What does "how I feel" about it have to do with anything?
 
TubbaBlubba said:
Please be intellectually honest.

Do you believe those numbers are accurate?
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Maybe, maybe not. I'm somewhat skeptical of the numbers, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.

EDIT : I certainly accept the numbers in regards to how many cripples and other invalids were killed.
 
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Okay. Do you think Apollo 11, with the crew, landed on the moon and that the footage purportedly taken there is legitimate?
 
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