Why is there so much crackpot physics?

Drachasor said:
I see a bunch of bad points and no explanation for the uniformity of CBR....
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How about this point...


Alignment of CBR with the Local Supercluster
The largest angular scale components of the fluctuations(anisotropy) of the CBR are not random, but have a strong preferred orientation in the sky. The quadrupole and octopole power is concentrated on a ring around the sky and are essentially zero along a preferred axis. The direction of this axis is identical with the direction toward the Virgo cluster and lies exactly along the axis of the Local Supercluster filament of which our Galaxy is a part. This observation completely contradicts the Big Bang assumption that the CBR originated far from the local Supercluster and is, on the largest scale, isotropic without a preferred direction in space. (Big Bang theorists have implausibly labeled the coincidence of the preferred CBR direction and the direction to Virgo to be mere accident and have scrambled to produce new ad-hoc assumptions, including that the universe is finite only in one spatial direction, an assumption that entirely contradicts the assumptions of the inflationary model of the Big Bang, the only model generally accepted by Big Bang supporters.)
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D'rok said:
So, Mr. Mann was a sock. Did anyone recognize him?

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194600
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That's the second EU/PC/electric Sun/solid surface of the Sun crackpot to get banned in just a few days. It might not help with any answers, but it certainly does add interest to the question, "Why is there so much crackpot physics?" What draws the trolls, the liars, and the idiots to jump into discussions on subjects where they are clearly unqualified?

(Or maybe there's a conspiracy to squelch the truth and it's only a matter of time before the next crackpot gets banned, too! :D)
 
GeeMack said:
That's the second EU/PC/electric Sun/solid surface of the Sun crackpot to get banned in just a few days. It might not help with any answers, but it certainly does add interest to the question, "Why is there so much crackpot physics?" What draws the trolls, the liars, and the idiots to jump into discussions on subjects where they are clearly unqualified?

(Or maybe there's a conspiracy to squelch the truth and it's only a matter of time before the next crackpot gets banned, too! :D)
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Ah, I just noticed the tag on the ban notice. Arthur Mann was cev08241971.
 
D'rok said:
Ah, I just noticed the tag on the ban notice. Arthur Mann was cev08241971.
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I amend my previous comment thusly...

GeeMack said:
That's the second time a EU/PC/electric Sun/solid surface of the Sun crackpot to get has been banned in just a few days. It might not help with any answers, but it certainly does add interest to the question, "Why is there so much crackpot physics?" What draws the trolls, the liars, and the idiots to jump into discussions on subjects where they are clearly unqualified?
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Arthur Mann said:
Hope against fear, a brilliant tactic when you're trying to set somebody up.

I can answer the loaded question of the thread subject pretty succinctly. The reason there is so much "crackpot physics" is because the consensus view of what physics entails is demonstrably wrong, and there are so very few people like Michael and myself presenting actual physics.

If crackpots weren't in the majority of the population as a whole, and consistently holding majority opinions, there wouldn't be so much "crackpot physics".
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So tell us. What is demonstrably wrong with physics ? I have a feeling this is going to be good.

Unfortunately Arthur has been banned. I guess we'll never know
 
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I did some poking around and came across this on http://www.skepticfriends.org/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&
concerning Michael Mozina.
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]Actually, it was the RAW EIT video from SOHO that originally convinced me it was solid.[/FONT]
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What he's referring to is the Sun.
The discussion starts with this site
http://www.thesurfaceofthesun.com/
This visible neon plasma layer that we call the photosphere, and a thicker, more dense atmospheric layer composed of silicon plasma, entirely covers the actual rocky, calcium ferrite surface layer of the sun. The visible photosphere covers the actual surface of the sun, much as the earth's oceans cover most of the surface of the earth. In this case the sun's photosphere is very bright and we cannot see the darker, more rigid surface features below the photosphere without the aid of satellite technology
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Michael Mozina said:
So aren't you sort of proving my point that that educational background and/or one's credentials are pretty much irrelevant?
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I guess doesn't matter when it comes to making up fanciful ideas.
 
Steve001 said:
I did some poking around and came across this on http://www.skepticfriends.org/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&
concerning Michael Mozina.
What he's referring to is the Sun.
The discussion starts with this site
http://www.thesurfaceofthesun.com/


I guess doesn't matter when it comes to making up fanciful ideas.
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Crackpots can appear oddly obsessive. That particular "campaign against legitimate science" has been going on for over half a decade, tens of thousands of posts on maybe a dozen or more forums, millions of words. Yes, millions of words. That SFN discussion went over 3,000 postings. Interestingly enough crackpots in general, physics crackpots in particular, may invest huge amounts of time and effort even when it proves near impossible to convince a single soul, certainly nobody who has a rudimentary understanding of physics and/or math. Read some of the "Against the Mainstream" threads on Bad Astronomy and Universe Today Forum for some real doozies.

So why does it seem crackpots are attracted to fantasy physics? Maybe LibraryLady hit the heart of the matter with...

LibraryLady said:
It's easier than real physics.
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GeeMack said:
That's the second EU/PC/electric Sun/solid surface of the Sun crackpot to get banned in just a few days. It might not help with any answers, but it certainly does add interest to the question, "Why is there so much crackpot physics?" What draws the trolls, the liars, and the idiots to jump into discussions on subjects where they are clearly unqualified?
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So you're saying that someone who doesn't have enough "professional" or academic qualification can't discuss such topics? I think that's a bit oppressive. However, coming in with less "qualifications" and then going and ripping down the whole house (which is what these guys try to do -- "NEWSFLASH! EVERYTHING you know about physics is WRONG!" etc.) is a different story.
 
PS..... you funny!

Perpetual Student said:
I am curious: What do you suppose drives crackpot physics and cosmology?
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Is complacent adherance exactly what a religious wingnut is all about? Well guess what, the majority are complacent to accept someone's side of the BS but few do the actual work. Each know, what they have and have not done.
They do not seem to be very knowledgeable about physics and cosmology,
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just like a physicist may not know much about neurology. Physicist are not always cosmologist. The best physicists are mathematicians while the best scientist are grounded to experimental evidence.

I crack up reading a physics teacher talking cosmology. Mathematically, they are so far divided it is a crack up.

To even calculate the big bang has specifics in mass calculation and each week, a new publication comes up about how they found 'NEW" stuff (dark mass )

But here is virial theorem http://spiff.rit.edu/classes/phys440/lectures/gal_clus/gal_clus.html Run the math with Zwicky (radial velocity) and see what ya get.


They seem to be quite ignorant of mathematics.
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PS..... this thread has 7 pages of this forum beating up on someone who was screaming for the truth.

You tell us about how much of the dark junk is pseudo science?

How about the LHC? Tell us what a waste of resources it is.

..... they have stumbled on the truth?
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The electric universe is not from the kid. That is old material.

What do they gain out of this avocation?
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and you are here for what 'gain'?

Appearing wise to their friends and relatives and the uninformed at cocktail parties?
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it seems his opinion was best kept in promoting to increase the honesty of science.

Are they delusional narcissists?
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many a teacher appear to be more like the preacher; telling others to not think, just follow.

i rather like the practical physics and the sky crap divide. He made a fine point but should have gave newton/gallileo their cudos for the solar works.


Do they hold myriad other unorthodox opinions about he world (like, say, political conspiracy theories and Internet driven puffery)?
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You're here and even opened this thread seeking to comprehend how anyone could take on mainstream beliefs.

Any opinions?
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not really
 
mike3 said:
So you're saying that someone who doesn't have enough "professional" or academic qualification can't discuss such topics?
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Yes, but it's actually far worse than you think. He hasn't even read Alfven's material and he absolutely positively refuses to comment on Alfven's circuit orientation to events in space. Nobody has the qualifications to even get him to read the appropriate materials, not even Alfven himself.

I think that's a bit oppressive.
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That's the whole point I'm afraid.

However, coming in with less "qualifications" and then going and ripping down the whole house (which is what these guys try to do -- "NEWSFLASH! EVERYTHING you know about physics is WRONG!" etc.) is a different story.
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I'm just trying to get him to use his self professed credentials to explain Alfven's use of "circuits" in relationship to flares.
 
Arthur Mann said:
Actually I think from that perspective the universe would appear to contract, but in any case, this is a weak joke.
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The joke is a lot stronger than your argument:p

Too late, the space cadet has been banned.
 
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I don't think there are many 'crackpots' they are just very vocal.

Plus

'look at the pictures' is a lot easier than doing any actual physics.
 
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