Witness describes explosions at North Tower

[Quiproquo]

http://www.911truther.com/

Journal of a 9/11 Truther

The Truth Movement - 911Truth.org

http://truthmovement.com/

etc.

Just because an individual or a group appropriates a nomer for itself doesn't mean that they created it.

 

[A W Smith]

Repression is not an active phenomenon. You don't just "decide" to repress a thought, you do it in some unconscious way. I never said that you choose to block an idea, a memory, a belief.

Then why are many familes questioning why we were so vulnerable, but those same families NOT supporting an inside job conspiracy? Both scenario's are traumatic. What psychological mechanism are you suggesting can filter out a conspiratorial time line, Yet allow another scenario which subconsciously they do not support take its place?

 

[dafydd]

There are no truthers. That is a term invented by supporters of the official narrative, just like the term "Truth movement" itself, as if opponents of the official 9/11 narrative where after some type of ontological quest.

I think that talking, mentioning, discussing the 9/11 events is considered, by some if not all people, as a pathology because it is repressed.

I feel that I "shouldn't" talk about it. I feel shame if I do.

What do most people do when they go through a traumatic experience in life? Their psychological integrity often demands that they make the experience disappear, that they repress it. A dysfunctional family, just as a dysfunctional society, will often shame an individual attempting to bring up the memory. In turn the individual will himself feel shame and ridicule.

There are truthers.The rest of your post is nonsense,off-topic and nothing to do with explosions.

 

[carlitos]

Just because an individual or a group appropriates a nomer for itself doesn't mean that they created it.

.....and here is where you could post evidence about the history of the term, including who created it.

 

[Quiproquo]

Then why are many familes questioning why we were so vulnerable, but those same families NOT supporting an inside job conspiracy?

Your question completely misses my point about the unconscious mechanism behind repression.

 

[carlitos]

Putting the "D" in JREF ​

Is there any chance this could catch on as a phrase for someone who is missing the point? Or am I just juicing the piglet^TM here?

 

[A W Smith]

Just because an individual or a group appropriates a nomer for itself doesn't mean that they created it.

you are not doing very well, in fact some would say

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/founder

 

[A W Smith]

Your question completely misses my point about the unconscious mechanism behind repression.

no. it is YOU who are missing my point, if they were unconsciously repressing the horrors of 911,. they would say nothing at all.

why are many familes questioning why we were so vulnerable, but those same families NOT supporting an inside job conspiracy? Both scenario's are traumatic. What psychological mechanism are you suggesting can filter out a conspiratorial time line, Yet allow another scenario which subconsciously they do not support take its place?

 

[Quiproquo]

no. it is YOU who are missing my point, if they were unconsciously repressing the horrors of 911,. they would say nothing at all.

We finally agree.

 

[triforcharity]

Just because an individual or a group appropriates a nomer for itself doesn't mean that they created it.

IIRC, Les Jameson coined the phrase.

I could be wrong though.

 

[A W Smith]

We finally agree.

no we don't, You have no evidence whatsoever that victims are subconsciously suppressing anything, Just your imagination.

why are many familes questioning why we were so vulnerable, but those same families NOT supporting an inside job conspiracy? Both scenario's are traumatic. What psychological mechanism are you suggesting can filter out a conspiratorial time line, Yet allow another scenario which subconsciously they do not support take its place?

If what you imagine had any truth to it at all, Why are they not silent?

 

[Andy_Ross]

This thread seems to have run its course

 

[dafydd]

This thread seems to have run its course

Or it could get back on topic after the mother of all derails.

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Or it could get back on topic after the mother of all derails.

Truthers will always derail a thread when they're stumped & have nothing of value to offer.

 

[Justin39640]

Repression is not an active phenomenon. You don't just "decide" to repress a thought, you do it in some unconscious way. I never said that you actively choose to block an unpleasant idea, memory, belief, or conclusion.

So you're saying TENS OF THOUSANDS of people who were related or very close to someone who was killed, are all collectively having selective amnesia???

This doesn't sound slightly unbelievable?

Not to mention a good amount of those you are talking about are native New Yorkers (and from the NE in general). If you knew anything about "my kind" you would know that if something was fishy, this area would explode with anger. You really think an Irish firefighting family actual thought the towers were "demolished"? You would never hear the end of it, from ALL of them. None of that happens here. In fact, on many occasions, truthers have been attacked by angry family members and firemen for being insulting, obnoxious, moronic, ********.

 

[dafydd]

Truthers will always derail a thread when they're stumped & have nothing of value to offer.

I've noticed that tobfustication is the order of the day for those guys.

 

[dafydd]

So you're saying TENS OF THOUSANDS of people who were related or very close to someone who was killed, are all collectively having selective amnesia???

This doesn't sound slightly unbelievable?

Not to mention a good amount of those you are talking about are native New Yorkers (and from the NE in general). If you knew anything about "my kind" you would know that if something was fishy, this area would explode with anger. You really think an Irish firefighting family actual thought the towers were "demolished"? You would never hear the end of it, from ALL of them. None of that happens here. In fact, on many occasions, truthers have been attacked by angry family members and firemen for being insulting, obnoxious, moronic, ********.

I'll bet that Quiproquo has never been near New York in his life.Why isn't his handle Quidproquo?

 

[Justin39640]

I'll bet that Quiproquo has never been near New York in his life.Why isn't his handle Quidproquo?

I was going to say that but I didn't want to speculate.

 

[TJM]

I was going to say that but I didn't want to speculate.

He donated the 'D' to The JRED.

 

[beachnut]

There are no truthers. That is a term invented by supporters of the official narrative, ...

False.

Pilots For 9/11 Truth - invented by idiot pilots, selling lies, using truth to fool other idiots (selling lies on DVD)

www.911truth.org/ - invented by a fraud looking for donations to run his web site

Scholars for 9/11 Truth - invented by dolts who can't figure out 911

AE911Truth - invented by Gage, can't figure out 911 and he is unemployed, fools idiots into donating his salary and travel funds

Truthers, are gullible people who can't figure out they are being fooled; they invented themselves, they debunk themselves.

Similes, fool truthers.