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Witness describes explosions at North Tower

Fonebone said:
Wtc7 was rated as a class A building for re-insurance purposes-
NO NATURAL GAS SERVICE ALLOWED - PERIOD !
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For HVAC or for cooking, hot water etc.? I'm pretty sure the restaurant had natural gas service, but it might have been propane.

edit: sorry missed the 7 in your post. :(
 
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ergo said:
Lefty, your hackneyed bee-dunkerisms are getting pretty tired.
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is this what truthers are left with?

silly word games? might as well try that tactic to bring on the "new investigation".

everything else has failed so far.

:)
 
Grizzly Bear said:
One of the towers had the Windows on the World restaurant, which used either gas or electric.
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Gas for sure. I've seen numerous pictures and they had regular restaurant equipment. You can't tell natural gas from propane in a picture, but I'd shocked if it was propane.
 
Propane being less explosive, but still VERY explosive.

Either way, I have not found anything that tells me there were not NG/Propane lines in any of the WTC buildings.
 
triforcharity said:
Propane being less explosive, but still VERY explosive.

Either way, I have not found anything that tells me there were not NG/Propane lines in any of the WTC buildings.
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Well we know for a fact there were propane tanks in WTC1,2. It stands to reason if there were propane lines there's no need to haul propane up 100 floors. I know for a fact Windows On The World had gas kitchen equipment (a serious chef wouldn't even consider an all electric kitchen, unless it was some sort of small specialty place like a sandwich joint).

So from a logical standpoint there were natural gas lines in at least WTC1. From an architectural standpoint getting water up to the 110th floor is tough, but gas would have been easy. So there wouldn't have been any reason not to put it in a modern building.

You can say with reasonable certainty the WTC had natural gas. I'd say I'm 90% certain if I had to guess. If I wanted to be certain I'd shoot off an email to the proprietor of the restaurant.
 
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leftysergeant said:
I shall take up the rest of this rubbish in a bit, if this migraine goes away after a cup of coffee and a smoke.

Why would I be getting a migraine just reading what some people believe?[/QUOTE] Now, before going any fur...TE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdc0OsLN_nU
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A cop is talking about numerous secondary explosions. No context for any given explosion. In other news, soldiers on field problems at Ft Lewis find bear scats in their bivouac area.

]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A9X_8flGeM (actual audio of, with news commentary about it)
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We already did this one to death.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U4RJt0rKDw
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No proper context for any of the explosions. The shot around the corner of a blast could have been a car fire cooking off. Smoke looks about right to support this scenario.

The only shot with a proper context is of iron workers(?) walking away from WTC 7 while we hear crashing noises. They announce that it will be coming down, but are not worried about the noise, which means that they know what is going on and that it does not involve explosives.

If I had just done a surrpetitious job like planting HE in a building and the boss started pushing the buttons before I had turened the corner, the boss would, at best, be wearing very big pipe wrench as a suppository.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Adm0DjIMec
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The "explosion" was the collapse of the building he was in, not consistant with HE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5ZomqWrnnM
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In the little audio that came through the background noise, Greg Cherry mentions feeling a blast while sitting at his desk. He does not seem to have noticed another big blast, and he obviously exited the building right away.

He is describing the aircraft strike, I am100% sure.

Here I missed a url of video of a fire fighter talking about two explosions and who was next to the collapse, maybe not even aware yet that it was a collapse. Pfeifer thought, while he was inside the north tower that there had been an explosion. He was barely out of the building when the north came down. Only after both were down did he or Naudetrealize what had happened. This, then, proves nothing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlAkF7E2nCs&feature=fvsr (firefighters)
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Just another clip of that idotic little punk Dylan taking crap out of context, not knowing what was happening in context. Pathetic.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzntuqLBOR8
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None of the Naudet film subjects have signed off on the twoofer crap. They just describe what stuff LOOKED like. Not admissible.
 
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So ergo, your belief that there are sounds of demolition explosives means you don't think Rhermite was used in the 'demolitions'?
 
Miragememories said:
Total misrepresentation of Barry Jennings.

He never claimed to have climbed up a pole.

And he was quite covered in dust.

Carry on.

MM
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Actually having gone back and looked, I must admit error. Not about what Mr. Jennings said, he did in fact say those things, but he said them in the Infowars video, not the ABC video that was taken after his rescue. If I misrepresented anything, it was the ABC video. Sorry about that.

For the record, before anyone gets their panties in a knot, I'm not saying Mr. Lemos or Mr. Jennings are liars. I'm saying they're exaggerating their accounts. People have been known to do that in response to high stress situations. It's a coping mechanism.

Miragememories said:
And he was quite covered in dust.
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Really. Well, you also have to note that at the beginning of the ABC video, they're standing in dust that's being kicked up by passing vehicles.

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Also for the record and not to derail the OP any further, when you've been near a building collapse and / or been made to crawl through rubble, you look them -

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Or her -

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Or them -

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Or her.

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In my opinion, Mr Jennings -

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And Mr. Lemos -

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seem to have been exaggerating.

I'm sorry if I've offended anyone by posting pictures of the people who suffered that day. Unfortunately it is necessary to illustrate my point. I don't know what infuriates me more, the murdering Islamic terrorist pigs that caused that suffering or the truthers who dismiss them.

It's at times like this that the difference matters little to me.
 
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Jennings was indoors when the dust was heaviest. Lemos wasn't.

Joe Torres was near the scene, but was able to outrun the dust, and heard nothing like demolition charges, but did hear the echoes of the collapse threough the subway, and bothered to comment on that noise.

Lemos, to have heard anything resembling demolition charges, would have had to be standing m8uch closer to the tower.

He's short a few grams of dust.
 
dafydd said:
I often wonder how long the troofers can keep it up.I have a vision of wheelchair 911 warriors being spoon fed pap by a nurse.
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There will be whole new generations of them. I used to work with a guy that was obsessed by the JFK assassination and he was not even born at the time.
CTs are a symptom of a mental problem and there will be plenty of people base enough to make money out them.:(
 
sheeplesnshills said:
There will be whole new generations of them. I used to work with a guy that was obsessed by the JFK assassination and he was not even born at the time.
CTs are a symptom of a mental problem and there will be plenty of people base enough to make money out them.:(
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What a depressing thought.
 
I remember on HMS Diomede working up after a Refit. The Spanners were doing a Boiler pressure test and the Safety Valves let go. Down below we thought something had exploded. There was a huge bang that we felt and heard through the hull as the valves lifeted and then another big bang when they reseated.
It sounded just like an explosion down below.
 
Lemos ran. There are also plenty of witnesses on video who are not caked in dust. How many times are you going to try and re-bunk this?

As for any source confirming that there were gas lines in WTC1 and 2, I guess we can assume bee dunkers have none. As usual. It's their opinion that there were, despite how incredibly stupid it would be to run gas lines up a 110-storey skyscraper merely to service the restaurant on the 106th floor.
 
ergo said:
Lemos ran. There are also plenty of witnesses on video who are not caked in dust. How many times are you going to try and re-bunk this?

As for any source confirming that there were gas lines in WTC1 and 2, I guess we can assume bee dunkers have none. As usual. It's their opinion that there were, despite how incredibly stupid it would be to run gas lines up a 110-storey skyscraper merely to service the restaurant on the 106th floor.
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Can you explain why it would be stupid?
 
ergo said:
Lemos ran. There are also plenty of witnesses on video who are not caked in dust. How many times are you going to try and re-bunk this?
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Until the incredibly obstinate realize that Lemos could not have observed what he observed, in both sight and sound, and still have had time to dodge the dust clouds.

As for any source confirming that there were gas lines in WTC1 and 2, I guess we can assume bee dunkers have none. As usual. It's their opinion that there were, despite how incredibly stupid it would be to run gas lines up a 110-storey skyscraper merely to service the restaurant on the 106th floor.
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It makes no bloody sense to schlep 110 stories with a propane tank adequate to the job of fuelling a commercial kitchen. Every time you unscrew a gas connection, you release an explosive vapor. Cross-thread it and not notice it, they might notice the mistake in Hoboken as it rains shattered glass, pots and pans and mushed-up cook and groceries.

It would also make sense to power the HVAC with gas.

Find out which it actually was and we will give you "stopped clock" credits.
 
Yeah, I guess "schlepping" tanks up in the elevators would be such a chore. Much easier to run a line up half a kilometre into the sky. And the restaurant would obviously fail if it had to use crappy ol' electricity. It would be the laughingstock of New York, according to bee dunkers.

How's about you folks find out what actually was used? Until then, we'll consider your assertions to be simply more bee-dunker guessing.
 
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